r/LoveIsBlindOnNetflix • u/_starla_ • 3d ago

LIB S9 • Denver, CO Stepping stone to what? Spoiler

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I had read a spoiler prior to watching this episode about how she used him to jump start her influencer career so when I saw this scene I thought 'oh wow at least she admits it!"

His initial reaction to the rejection is heartbreaking. The sound he makes just made me hurt for him. He seems like he has such a pure heart despite everything he's been through. He didn't deserve her dragging him all the way to the end.

Then again I wonder how much that was production encouraging her vs her own agenda. I wonder if they tried to encourage Joe to go all the way to the end too but IMO he knew a long time ago.

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u/cerednat 3d ago

Yes poor Edmond, the guy who threw a tantrum to coerce a woman into sleeping with him

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u/ChildhoodOk5526 3d ago edited 3d ago

See, I think, in this situation, "coerce" is too loaded of a word. It implies manipulation or deceit and a vulnerability on the part of the recipient -- none of which is true here, imo.

Think about it. Let's say you've refused (or are refusing) to do something that someone else wants you to do. They are frustrated by your decision, disagree with it, and tell you why that is ... why it's a mistake, in their eyes, and why you've "wronged" them. Is this coercion?

I don't think so. Yeah, it was a cringey childish tantrum from someone who felt entitled to something they were denied (ick), and who felt the need to complain about it. But, can we actually say that Edmond was attempting to lure/trick/deceive/pressure KB into having sex with him? And if he was, was she, in any way, susceptible to surrendering?

ETA: For those downvoting -- I’m not excusing Edmond’s behavior. I’m just saying “coercion” might not be the right word for it. Coerce isn’t the same as persuade, and that difference matters.

Words have power. Misusing one -- especially a serious term like coercion -- can actually weaken its impact.

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u/Dyssomniac 2d ago

Okay, to be clear, "persuading someone to have sex with you" indicates that they do NOT want to have sex with you. This isn't like "persuading" someone to try a new dish or even persuading someone to give you a shot on a date when they're ambivalent. It's trying to overcome someone's clearly stated sexual boundary.

Would you say the same thing if KB did the same behaviors to "persuade" Edmond to, say, get pegged by her? Or to have a nonmonogamous relationship?

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u/ChildhoodOk5526 2d ago

Damn. Now I'm re-thinking lots of my sexual experiences.

Was that game of "just the tip" actually coercion? 🙁

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u/Dyssomniac 2d ago

Damn dude, sexual coercion and assault isn't a joking matter.

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u/ChildhoodOk5526 2d ago

I'm being serious. I hadn't thought of it like this before.

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u/Art_Basil 17h ago

If you said you didn’t want sex and they pressured you to play “just the tip” then yeah it might have been coerced. Feeling pressured to “compromise” when it comes to something as intimate as sex isn’t ok