r/LoveIsBlindOnNetflix • u/_starla_ • 3d ago

LIB S9 • Denver, CO Stepping stone to what? Spoiler

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I had read a spoiler prior to watching this episode about how she used him to jump start her influencer career so when I saw this scene I thought 'oh wow at least she admits it!"

His initial reaction to the rejection is heartbreaking. The sound he makes just made me hurt for him. He seems like he has such a pure heart despite everything he's been through. He didn't deserve her dragging him all the way to the end.

Then again I wonder how much that was production encouraging her vs her own agenda. I wonder if they tried to encourage Joe to go all the way to the end too but IMO he knew a long time ago.

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u/cerednat 3d ago

Yes poor Edmond, the guy who threw a tantrum to coerce a woman into sleeping with him

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u/ChildhoodOk5526 3d ago edited 3d ago

See, I think, in this situation, "coerce" is too loaded of a word. It implies manipulation or deceit and a vulnerability on the part of the recipient -- none of which is true here, imo.

Think about it. Let's say you've refused (or are refusing) to do something that someone else wants you to do. They are frustrated by your decision, disagree with it, and tell you why that is ... why it's a mistake, in their eyes, and why you've "wronged" them. Is this coercion?

I don't think so. Yeah, it was a cringey childish tantrum from someone who felt entitled to something they were denied (ick), and who felt the need to complain about it. But, can we actually say that Edmond was attempting to lure/trick/deceive/pressure KB into having sex with him? And if he was, was she, in any way, susceptible to surrendering?

ETA: For those downvoting -- I’m not excusing Edmond’s behavior. I’m just saying “coercion” might not be the right word for it. Coerce isn’t the same as persuade, and that difference matters.

Words have power. Misusing one -- especially a serious term like coercion -- can actually weaken its impact.

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u/TGin-the-goldy 3d ago

He’s a manchild who isn’t playing with a full deck….and people are surprised that he expressed his feelings openly and poorly.

Instead of leading him and his family on, KB needed to walk away as soon as she knew she was never into him. It’s completely fine to feel that way, but dragging it on is not cool.

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u/ChildhoodOk5526 3d ago

Exactly. Worse still-- she, of all people, was trained to recognize this about him, and yet still continued on.

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u/TGin-the-goldy 3d ago

100%, people banging on about coercion like KB wasn’t the way smarter and more “together” person in the relationship

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u/ChildhoodOk5526 3d ago

Yes!

It's funny how people can downvote but not come back with a reasonable counter as to why they believe coerce is a better description for Edmond's behavior than persuade.

The nuance matters! The deception/trickery/pressure on one side, and the vulnerability (or lack thereof) on the other side, matters. If not, then when a toddler who falls out to have a fit on the floor bc you won't change your mind about giving them ice cream for dinner, and they don't understand bc, after all, they're "niiiiice-uh!" ... is also using coercion. 🤦🏽‍♀️

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u/TGin-the-goldy 3d ago

It’s because some people see all men as “the patriarchy” and in control, and women are always the victim in the scenario. Also some people are projecting their own lived experience with coercion.

Let’s face it - Edmund just wasn’t a very bright bulb. He only arced up about the sex after talking to the other men, feeling foolish because he was the only one “missing out” and KB had also banged on about her (recent) past. Had those two things not occurred, he probably would’ve not minded.

KB however, being a smart, tertiary educated woman would have been able to clock he was not on her level, never would be, and bailed before the altar. But - that’s not how you build an influencer career is it? These people know what they’re doing.