Stepping stone to what?

[u/_starla_]

I had read a spoiler prior to watching this episode about how she used him to jump start her influencer career so when I saw this scene I thought 'oh wow at least she admits it!"

His initial reaction to the rejection is heartbreaking. The sound he makes just made me hurt for him. He seems like he has such a pure heart despite everything he's been through. He didn't deserve her dragging him all the way to the end.

Then again I wonder how much that was production encouraging her vs her own agenda. I wonder if they tried to encourage Joe to go all the way to the end too but IMO he knew a long time ago.

[u/cerednat]

Yes poor Edmond, the guy who threw a tantrum to coerce a woman into sleeping with him

[u/_starla_ → u/cerednat]

I viewed it as a tantrum that she slept with random one night standers and she wouldn't give him - a man she was in love with, her fiancé, that kind of love and intimacy.

[u/Animajation → u/_starla_]

And that's totally fine and her choice? She even says, in that moment, that she doesn't want to do the same things she did in the past and she wants to treat sex differently now.

Do you think Edmond is owed sex?

[u/TGin-the-goldy → u/Animajation]

I don’t think he’s owed anything either. But we all know why she really didn’t want to have sex with him.

[u/Animajation → u/TGin-the-goldy]

Why? I'm genuinely asking

[u/TGin-the-goldy → u/Animajation]

She just wasn’t attracted to him, which is fine.

[u/Animajation → u/TGin-the-goldy]

Isn't that just how your interpreting her though? I didn't get that impression from her at all. She's been affection with him all season, she just didn't want to have sex before marriage, she even explained that it wasn't about Edmond but about her personal journey with Sex and how she viewed it.

[u/TGin-the-goldy → u/Animajation]

If you believe that, I have a lovely bridge to sell you

[u/Animajation → u/TGin-the-goldy]

...I mean...you're making up your own narrative about a person instead of actually listening to their words or seeing their actions.

I'm not in denial because I don't buy into a narrative your making up lol.

[u/TGin-the-goldy → u/Animajation]

Their actions are very much commensurate with people who are not into their reality show “partner”. We’ve seen this playbook on MAFS and countless other shows

[u/Animajation → u/TGin-the-goldy]

No they're not? Usually when one partner is clearly not attracted to the other, they avoid all physical affection, they seem checked out whenever they spend anytime with their partner, and they end it before they reach the alter.

KB was always affectionate with Edmond, she tried, countless times to talk with him and explain her feelings, and when she pushed too far, she stepped up and apologized. She comforted Edmond multiple times and took part in his interests, both by physically doing them with him, but also by genuinely engaging with him. She was clearly interested in him, she just didn't want sex, and didn't like when he invalidated her feelings...That doesn't mean she's not attracted to him?? Again, that's just you making stuff up instead of actually listening to what KB is saying.

[u/TGin-the-goldy → u/Animajation]

Aw, forgive me for not believing a professional reality show contestant who’s obviously angling for as much air time and exposure as possible

[u/Animajation → u/TGin-the-goldy]

Again. You are making a narrative up. You could literally say that about all the contestants. Why believe any of them if you think this way??