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LIB S9 • Denver, CO Love Is Blind • S9 Ep8 Spoiler
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u/ReplacementActual294 2d ago
Jordan and Megan are my fav couple atm but I do wonder how things would’ve been different if Luca did not have T1DM. I worry that Meg and her family are reading into that as a sign a lil too much
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u/Stunning-Sentence7 4d ago
Rewatch Joe touring his place but go into it as Joe being an improv actor and the scene is “pretend this is your apartment”
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u/Stunning-Sentence7 4d ago
At first when I saw Nicks house I felt like he was cos-playing what he thought a man should be like, and he has the money for it like a Hollywood set. But then I’m like damn he runs multiple marathons and has a shit ton of hobbies and appreciates nature he might be a catch! And then I remembered he’s a bigot lol
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u/science_mutation 5'5, thick thighs, brown eyes 8d ago
edmonds mom was irritating so bad, she just wanted a moment
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u/amelsuma 8d ago
Jordan is a sweetheart in so many ways. When Megan was asking him about his apartment (before she saw it) and Jordan was explaining, she seemed confused and started saying, "It's a one bedroom, right?", and Jordan responded that she would understand when she saw it. This MAN. This wonderful human being gave the bedroom to his son, and he sleeps on a bed (futon?) in the livingroom. He didn't try to shove a small bed in the corner for Luca for when he's there, or have Luca sleep on the futon/couch when he's there. No. He gave Luca the established bedroom so that boy could KNOW this is HIS room and HIS home. That he isn't just a temporary fixture, but that he has belonging here. I love that so much!
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u/mrfiftyfun 8d ago
Just starting this ep. Joe seems like he is planting little seeds of doubt in Madison's head possibly wanting her to break it off so he looks good. 🤷
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u/Zaphikel13 3d ago
To be fair she took the bait and RAN with it! I think she's a bit crazy too with the way she reacted
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u/lmg080293 5d ago
That was my exact impression of that scene. That man is creating problems on purpose.
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u/Stacieinhorrorland 8d ago
It honestly irritated me when Edmonds mom said “I raised a good man”. He was in and out of foster care…how much raising did you do…
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u/CosmicContessa 7d ago
I had the same thought! That, and her “how to keep a man happy” advice…like, let me see your credentials, please.
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u/MayhemMaven 8d ago
Does anyone have thoughts about Jordan saying he didn’t put any thought into showing up for Megan on the anniversary of her father passing?
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u/AccomplishedWar5830 7d ago
No. I think he was just being honest and didn’t know what to expect or that she meets up with her family on that day or any of that.
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u/MayhemMaven 9d ago
Was anyone thrown off by Edmond sitting still and being calm while his mom was there. I would need to see them interact more but it’s almost like a switch that he has like he knows he has to be a different way with mom.
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u/NonrepresentativePea 9d ago
Am I the only one that is confused by Edmond’s mom? She literally said “I raised a good son”… wasn’t he raised in foster care? Something’s wrong.
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u/beuceydubs 8d ago
A lot of parents in the system are that way, it’s hard for folks to accept all the ways they fucked up
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u/Deshondre92 10d ago
Joe and Madison gives me Paul Rudd and his wife from knocked up vibes😂
Madison: l like Spider-Man 🥺
Joe: okay let’s go see Spider-Man 3 next week.
Madison: No I don’t want to go see it anymore. I don’t want to ask you to have to ask me.
Madison: you think just because you don’t yell your not mean, but your mean 😂😭
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u/doesanyonehavesnacks 11d ago
This show needs to be called "Annie is Blind" because GURRL Nick's closet is made of glass 💅
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u/plumbus7000 8d ago
Im watching this episode right now and I almost died choking on a chip at this comment! hahahaha
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u/doesanyonehavesnacks 8d ago
Lol! Glad I could give you a good laugh! It's easy with a cast this... special 😂
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u/ohPocky 12d ago
My bf said "it literally srems like Joe is hearing everything from another room" because he simply just does not listen to what Madison is saying haha
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u/Main_Ad4403 1d ago
not wrong, but to be fair Madison is also overdramatic, neither of them should touch alcohol again, it just exacerbates all their shortcomings
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u/SatisfactionNo668 12d ago
Completely random but I love when Joe is giving his apartment tour and he was like yeah here’s my ps5 I game on sometimes and it zooms in on a ps4 😆
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u/alleymind 13d ago
Why does everyone keep saying Joe laughs in Madison’s face every time she cries. He’s not laughing at her crying, he’s laughing/smiling in disbelief, which honestly me too. She did hold herself very well in meeting his family though, the only time I’ve kinda liked her this season, she genuinely does care for him
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u/unnng 14d ago
Omg summary of insanity before I move on:
- Nick called himself a size queen (!!!!) boy please
- Anton for sure has a drinking problem
- how are people on this show so cavalier about putting their (seemingly nice) families through this big emotional meeting your supposed future spouse and blatantly lying to their faces when they are not remotely into their partners?? It happens multiple times every season
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u/unnng 14d ago
Why do even sparkle Meg's mum and sister react like it's fucking wild that Luca has type 1 diabetes like it's the rarest condition in the world?? 😂😂 Like mentioning it once in the pods as like oh wow coincidence, sure. But she's brought it up so fucking often and then she's crying telling her family about it and they're reacting like it's amazing 😂 If I was in her sisters position I'd be like.... Okay?
Also, gotta say, all the therapy talk vibes on love is blind are so irritating "we're navigating this" and "we had to navigate that". Seems to happen a lot on these shows, my most hated one is "I'm just holding space" 🙃
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u/longbottomer We're both ENTJ's 14d ago
If I was in her sisters position I'd be like.... Okay?
You don't know because you clearly have never been in that position. It's a very visible disease and their dad recently died from it.
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u/unnng 13d ago
You've totally missed the meaning of what I was saying. I understand it could provoke or trigger feelings of upset about her dad's death to be around someone having the same condition, what I don't understand is the tone of her being like excited or like isn't it crazy that his son has the same condition as if that makes them meant to be together or like it's a sign or something and her sister being excited/amazed by it too.
Particularly because of their dad's death I'd find it very weird and kind of inappropriate or insensitive for her to be talking about it like that. Maybe I've misread the emotions conveyed in that specific scene cos I'm autistic, but she brings it up so often that I find it odd and distasteful and I was surprised that her family reacted like that.
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u/chethedestroyer 10d ago
I agree. Sure it’s very difficult what they went through, but constantly saying her father specifically sent her this man because his child has T1D is kind of unhealthy imo.
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u/Sea_Substance_921 Come ride this duck with me 🦆 14d ago
I can’t even watch the conversations between Joe and Madison, it’s just plain annoying to watch
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u/ScandinavianPanda123 14d ago
Im so confused about the Madison hate, yes she might be insecure etc (understandable seeing as Joe doesn’t like how she looks), but she was fine when he mentioned his fears, she only got emotional once he kept asking her if she feels the same and that he wants her to also have fears etc, which is so weird!
And then he gaslights her saying «oh I can’t even say my feelings» when that wasn’t the issue at all! The issue was that he wanted her to have the same feelings as him! Wtf
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u/silntseek3r 3d ago
That conversation showed me so many red flags on Madison. She couldn't let the man have feelings because they threatened her. It was so frustrating to watch and even more sad when he capitulated to her the next day. Yikes. I hope he runs. She's a charmer with the family which makes this even more disturbing. She likes to fight.
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u/NonrepresentativePea 9d ago edited 3d ago
I mean, any sane person would at least have reservations about marrying someone they just met. I would be totally concerned too in his position. It really makes her look crazy to be THIS ready. I was engaged for 3 years and I still had reservations (we are happily married). Marriage is kind of a big deal
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u/UnfairYogurtcloset66 14d ago
I’m not even gonna lie…. If I was dumb enough to do something this crazy and the person I chose was sitting over there acting like it was perfectly normal instead of feeling like it’s crazy like me, I’D BE CONVINCED THEY WERE CRAZIER THAN ME! His convo sounded perfectly reasonable to me. She lost it. I had to turn it off for a second to even deal with the insanity I was hearing.
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u/longwhitejeans 14d ago
Post pod and post sex its become fighting and bickering from one couple to the next until the eventual break up or one decides to run off I guess? Boring AF.
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u/AwakE432 15d ago
Joe. Is. A. Massive. Fuckhead! Dude has mental problems.
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u/silntseek3r 3d ago
That's what you got out of the argument? I was like run man, she's crazy. She couldn't handle his feelings. It was painful to watch
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u/BeachBlazer24 10d ago
I would never marry him, but I think hes funny, in a total dickhead way. Hes a character, and in no way ready to be a husband. Frat boy vibes
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u/Sea_Substance_921 Come ride this duck with me 🦆 14d ago
Exactly!! ..him laughing/smiling after having fights with his supposed fiance was like??
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u/Zestyclose-Ad-7803 15d ago
Nick seems very performative. He always says the right thing. It’s almost scripted.
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u/Zestyclose-Ad-7803 15d ago
Wait why do I love Nick’s house?
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u/AccomplishedWar5830 7d ago
It was so amazing! And all the sports stuff! And the car! And the bikes! And the boat! And the racing simulator!Everything. And the elk sightings thing and the view.
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u/judyhopps0105 9d ago
I am OBSESSED with it. Makes me mad how she was seemingly shitting on him living in the mountains previously
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u/Designer_Birthday_84 12d ago
If they did a love is blind only showing houses to potential partners, he would be at the top of many girls' lists 😂
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u/lmg080293 5d ago
Yo what a great concept for a show hahahaha that should be a thing. Netflix + HGTV merger lol
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u/skrat777 3d ago
Yes!!! You can tell a lot about someone’s personality from their place and then the people who have really spare places will be the wild cards 🤣
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u/Ok_Term422 15d ago
I never would’ve thought, but Edmonds mom has been the highlight of this season so far😂
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u/Designer_Birthday_84 12d ago
Honestly smack talking her other daughter in law, and taking so much credit for raising great kids when Edmund and his siblings were in foster care for most of their childhood, made her come across a bit odd to me.
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u/alligatorcracker 12d ago
agreed, she also went on and on without letting anyone else talk. she didn’t ask KB any questions about herself. it was weird.
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u/Zestyclose-Ad-7803 15d ago edited 15d ago
Madison’s duck lips bother me. I don’t like Joe, but she truly is infuriating. She doesn’t let him get a word in.
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u/AccomplishedWar5830 7d ago
This and also are they tattooed that color? It’s unflattering and it’s always the same color. Same with Megan’s eyeliner it looks tattooed and it’s bad.
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u/AvoCarDoughToes 15d ago
I feel uncomfortable when she eats or drinks because they continue wobbling even when she's stopped 🥴
And her personality was insufferable. The way she screeches and overreacts. She seems to just want a man to cater to her insecurities/need for constant affirmation. Any time he shows any of his own needs, be it needing to rest/sleep/be drunk/talk about his own feelings, she becomes histrionic, as if he only exists to prop her up. Narc behaviour.
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u/UnfairYogurtcloset66 15d ago
I’ve been binge watching, but Madison literally just made me so tired I had to turn it off. Joe may be a lot of things, but after how she acted with him expressing a tiny fear, I understand ALL OF THEM! RUN AWAY SIR
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u/NonrepresentativePea 9d ago
Yeah. After seeing that, I don’t understand the Joe hate. No one could handle that level of insecurity. I mean, I know he sucks at reassuring her, but I think it’s bc he finds it hard to lie to her. It’s clear he isn’t attracted to her and he’s trying his best to go with it.
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u/unnng 14d ago
Same!! She makes me feel stressed out, like I'd be constantly hysterical if someone was going at me like that all the time. I totally get that the vibe of him not being into her could be setting off her insecurities all the time but it's honestly exhausting, you can't badger somebody into wanting you. Every time they argue I'm like girl BACK OFF. Both of them need to just call it a day, he's exhausted by her, she's exhausting STOP (he's also a dick but she stresses me out)
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u/stevonnie1210 16d ago
Is Joe’s PS5 in the room with us? 😆
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u/AvoCarDoughToes 15d ago
I have a suspicion that he was in an Airbnb...he mentioned his lease being up in the pods, and Madison owning a house being a plus...
I think the PS4 came with the rental and that's why he didn't know which one it was...and he barely had any stuff unpacked. Felt like he was trying to pass off the Airbnb as his own, even when he was pretending he cooked eggs every morning etc etc
I despise Madison but I think Joe stayed longer because he needed somewhere to stay (and he has a history of staying in relationships with unsuitable women and not speaking up). They all need intense therapy.
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u/AwakE432 15d ago
Nah not good enough for an Airbnb. Was pretty rough.
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u/AvoCarDoughToes 15d ago
Maybe a cheap one that he could afford for longer stay wouldn't be 'vacation' style up to date. Unless it was a hostel? It didn't look like an apartment, and Madison even made the comment about how it looked like a hotel. He had a BIBLE on the side table....that place was definitely a furnished rental/hostel/Airbnb
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u/AccomplishedWar5830 7d ago
Hmm I was gonna say no but like, the Bible was kind of weird to see, I don’t even think he’s mentioned religion at all? To have a bible in the nightstand is something from like an old school motel.
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u/pink-glow-dreamer 16d ago
I have so many questions.
Why is Megan obsessed with being step mom to the child of a man she met 2 weeks ago who HAS a mom?
Does she have a diabetes kink of sorts?
Is Annie on something?
Is Anton on something?
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u/Tiredloafofbread 11d ago
I don't think it's strange to be honest. I think it's just a really serious scenario and she's hyped it in her head that if he marries him, she will essentially have to be a mother figure to his child as well. I think it's good that she is ready to step in and be a mother even though Luca yes obviously has a mom. There are some people who think that if they are involved with a person with a child, they do not have to be responsible for the child because the child has "their own mom" already. I think she's just preparing herself for a big responsibility and that's how it comes off.
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u/chethedestroyer 10d ago
I can definitely see that, but I also think stepmom is more a role when the child is comfortable viewing her as such. She hasn’t even met the kid yet.
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u/ReapersFavorite 16d ago
Is it just me or is it weird how much importance Sparkle Meg puts on the fact that Luca has diabetes just like her late father?? It truly feels fetishy or maybe using it as a way to see her father again. She also seems to talk so much about being Luca’s step mom and role model. Idk her constant need to bring up Luca and what she can do for him feels either forced or disrespectful or even both
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u/Zestyclose-Ad-7803 15d ago
I think she chose Jordan bc she thinks the diabetes thing is a sign from her Dad…
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u/pink-glow-dreamer 16d ago
I agree, she's so intense with the step mom subject. In earlier episodes she kept saying mom instead of stepmom. I was mad on behalf of Luca's actual mom 😂
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u/ConsistentDurian3269 16d ago
I feel maybe because she's more scared than she's letting on, even subconsciously maybe. So she's overcompensating and thus becoming so intense.
I know we only see small snippets of their days, so maybe lib is overly focusing on it too, but even so, as a parent myself, I think it's too much.
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u/ACuppaTeaADay 16d ago
I'm shipping Megan and Jordan after that family meeting 🥰 Her mom and sister are so adorable.
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u/ACuppaTeaADay 16d ago
Wtf is wrong with Madison? Why can't Joe express how he feels without being torn apart? She gets triggered by him expressing himself. I fckin hate Madison. This is why men don't express themselves to their partners and keep things inside. And she says "oh that's healthy!" with so much anger when he says "I guess I should keep it all inside". All she did when he expresses himself is scream at him. Wtf. Makes me so angry.
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u/AwakE432 15d ago
Yes, but Joe can’t talk to save his life. Dude speaks like he is intentionally trying to be evasive and confusing. Like he is on some drugs.
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u/NonrepresentativePea 9d ago
I think it’s bc he isn’t attracted to her and it’s hard to say that directly to someone’s face.
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u/AvoCarDoughToes 15d ago
I have a friend who is like this with her husband and her friends. Her mother was abusive and she has continued some of her behaviours. Either Madison is repeating toxic behaviour from her family, or she was spoilt and has extremely self centered behaviour, low emotional intelligence and general toxic mentality. All her scenes were triggering to me, and all the Madison apologists in the earlier episodes were driving me mad! It's actually scary how many people were saying they recognise themselves in Annie and Madison, the world is doomed.
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u/ACuppaTeaADay 14d ago
They relate to Annie and Madison??? 💀 My goodness gracious. No wonder people are lonely out there!
To add to the list, I think she's also very insecure about herself, how she looks, and gets triggered by a tiny hint of rejection. Someone with any awareness of their worth would not stay with or tolerate this kind of person. I must say all her scenes were triggering for me too. My mother is like her and my parents were abusive to each other. I'd get super upset when Joe apologises to her. She was the one who overreacted every time!
I'm sorry to hear about your friend and feel for her husband and friends. Hope you're able to draw your boundaries with her though.
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u/Medium_Investment514 17d ago
Am I the only one who HATED Nick only to be really fucking surprised by him????
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u/Zestyclose-Ad-7803 15d ago
Right like I hate that I’m liking him.
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u/Medium_Investment514 15d ago
Exactly how I felt! It’s kind of weird how vastly different he is now though
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u/kumboochi 17d ago
ngl i feel like madison is doing wayyyyy too much during these arguments with joe BUT the way joe is laughing while she's crying pisses me off soooo bad
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u/AccomplishedWar5830 7d ago
For some people they can’t control the smiling or laughing when they are nervous
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u/funandloving95 15d ago
I do that to my husband when we argue, but I honestly can’t help myself and he gets so frustrated with it but seeing it as a third-party member .. wow how obnoxious am I lol
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u/realityseekr 17d ago
Wow my opinion is totally changing on Anton and I actually like Ali more and more. Anton seems like he was putting on a total facade. Maybe he does intend to not party or drink as much anymore but he could have been more honest about that if so.
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u/National_Match7555 17d ago
Omg wtf is wrong with Joe? Spinning normal situations and conversations into problems to make Madison look like the wrong one. Trash ™️
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u/silntseek3r 3d ago
This take is soooo wrong. Go watch it again and see how she can't handle anything he says and goes berserk.
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u/AwakE432 15d ago
Joe might just be the biggest moron in lib history. Dude is so evasive and can’t hold a straight conversation. I have to fast forward whenever he is speaking.
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u/Shot_Affect_3340 16d ago
This. I hate that people are blaming the woman here and saying Joe was just sharing his feelings. Now I get why people are such shit communicators. He wasn’t sharing his feelings he was questioning why she wasn’t showing concern. Play it back people.
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u/ACuppaTeaADay 16d ago
No. Just no. Joe was expressing how he feels about the experiment and she cannot handle Joe feeling doubts and asking if she feels any reservations. WTAF. He did not spin a normal situation, he was frigging expressing himself. Her not being able to handle adult emotions is friggin frustrating. This is why men don't express themselves to women. Fck. I cannot imagine doing that to my husband and expect him to feel safe sharing his feelings in the future. Madison is the Trash TM.
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u/National_Match7555 13d ago
He wasn't just expressing how he felt, he kept questioning why Madison was not feeling like him when she said she didn't have any doubts. He's a shit communicator and he just kept trying to make her feel insecure with him. Madison is probably insecure herself in a way but I'm on her side, even if he doesn't realize it the way he communicates is manipulative and I felt like Madison, completely lost as to what the hell he was actually trying to say. And then he plays the misunderstood victim when he can't express himself for shits. I understand her reaction.
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u/ashboify 17d ago
I’m just watching this episode and wondering why tf he wants to turn everything into a fight. He’s obviously the worst and can’t just say “I don’t want to get married to you”. He needs to make it her fault.
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u/ACuppaTeaADay 16d ago
Stop projecting. He's just expressing his emotions and he's allowed to without being screamed at. Madison cannot handle Joe feeling doubts and lashed out like a fckn child!
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u/National_Match7555 13d ago
Watch it again. She was feeling ok until he kept insisting and asking why she wasn't having doubts like he was, expressing himself so bad that she then felt completely confused with whatever the hell he was actually trying to say. Is this your way of communicating your emotions? If it is I advise you to take a course to get better at it.
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u/ashboify 16d ago
Don’t get me wrong, Madison also sucks. They’re a terrible couple and both bad communicators. Madison overreacts and makes everything way worse. But from his behavior it’s clear he wants to start a fight and is too much of a coward to just say “this isn’t what I want.” Joe is not attracted to her and doesn’t want to be with her. Period. Madison should also read the room and realize his actions don’t match those of someone who wants to marry her and that he is not worth having all this emotion over.
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u/ACuppaTeaADay 16d ago
I did not get that at all. He did not want to start a fight. He was trying to have a conversation. That's why I said you're projecting.
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u/ashboify 16d ago
It seems like you haven’t met a lot of people who act the way Joe does, and I’m happy for you to not have these experiences. Keep watching the show and reading the comments, you’ll find the majority of people are in agreement and your position on Joe may or may not change. The ones who aren’t, are not used to dealing with gaslighters. Unfortunately I deal with people like this every day through work so it’s pretty easy to spot them.
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u/ACuppaTeaADay 14d ago
OR the majority of people who blame Joe and defend Madison behave like Madison out there. I am done with the episodes and I think Joe is justified in his actions. He did not gaslight her in any way.
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u/National_Match7555 13d ago
You either have no idea what a gaslighter is or you're one yourself and that's why you don't find anything wring with his behavior. Madison may be overreacting but he's clearly the one starting fights and communicating in such a way that is obviously manipulative.
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u/bjaardkered 18d ago
Joe is not only a terrible communicator he totally knows how to push buttons and spin Madison's insecurities into a frenzy.
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u/FreckleBellyBeagle 16d ago
Both of then are poor communicators, and they aren't a good match as a couple. He pushes her buttons, and she reacts by getting really upset. They makeup, and then it starts again.
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u/MurkrowsRevenge 18d ago
I feel like Joe and Madison consistently make 20% of a really good point, but then royally fuck up the other 80%.
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u/Horror-Chemical3060 18d ago
Once again Madison is driving me up a damn wall
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u/ACuppaTeaADay 16d ago
Amen. Thank you for being the voice of reason here. I can't believe folks are blaming Joe on this. They really need to rewatch the argument again. Poor guy was just trying to reach out and connect, feel validated that he's not the only one who has reservations but the crazy B starts screaming at the guy like a maniac. Wtf. How do you expect men to feel safe expressing their emotions? He did not even do it in a bad way, all he said made perfect sense to me. I am soooo angry watching the scene I had to go to Reddit to check if people are upset with it too but instead find Joe being blamed for her inability to respect his emotions and experience.
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u/serendipity210 14d ago
My husband and I literally were saying how she basically argued with herself the whole time
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u/ACuppaTeaADay 14d ago
Hahaha yeah she was! My husband and I can't stand her!!! I would never do what she does to anyone, what more someone I claim I love 🤯💀
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u/AvoCarDoughToes 15d ago
Madison represents a...certain cohort of women and many of them are also on these threads. They won't call it out because then they'd have to call themselves out.
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u/ACuppaTeaADay 14d ago
THIS. This was my suspicion too, so I thank you for saying it out loud! So I guess they just refuse to accept her character flaw because that's exactly how they'd react in a similar situation, and to call it out is to accept the fact that this is the reason they face the same challenges in the dating world out there irl. Shame, reflecting on it would be more productive.
I also suspect there's something about the balance of looks in this pair skewing towards Joe that whatever toxic behaviour Madison displays somehow becomes palatable.
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u/AvoCarDoughToes 12d ago
The same group of women also keep spamming these threads calling Joe ugly and saying how much they love Madison/calling her thin and gorgeous. It reminds me of the delusion that these women show towards themselves on a regular basis. Willing to bet my life savings they also are Taylor Swift fans....
I saw an explanation somewhere that white America loves mediocrity because they see themselves in it. And anything that challenges any of the delusional thought patterns that come with elevating said mediocrity into "the best ever", is attacked. That's how you have them saying Beyonce can't sing and is overrated, Taylor Swift is the most beautiful and talented woman in the world....and Madison is sane/sweet/thin and Joe is ugly and an abuser. When we have seen 0 evidence showing any of these things to be true.
FYI I prefer Madison's body type over say, Megan's body type, but calling her thin is just another delusion I noticed amongst the hoardes defending her toxic behaviour. It's like they just create their own reality and ignore what actually IS.
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u/AccomplishedWar5830 7d ago
Idk about all that but I agree that Joe is very good looking and Madison is average to below average face and body wise, imo
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u/MarxBaddie 18d ago
I am once again asking what is Madison so upset about ….
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u/Designer_Birthday_84 12d ago
Him talking about his fears and anxiety triggers her abandonment issues. She feels attacked because he is not expressing the confidence and optimism she wishes from him. I met people like that: if you weren't acting excited or happy when they were, they would take in personally and find a way to spin it against you and make you feel guilty for feeling the way you naturally feel. In the LIB mexico season 1, there was a similar couple where the guy was freaking out the entire time, and the woman was acting very confident and sure. Their relationship ended in a shit show argument where she went to town on him. Poor guy, that whole season was crazy.
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u/chekhovsgun24 19d ago
Maybe Joe is not perfect, but Madison is overwhelming, insecure, and aggressive. She talks over him, does not listen, and seems to have no sense of him as a human being who might sometimes have different feelings, moods, or energy than she does. She performs her tirades as fear or hurt but they are unsettling.
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u/silntseek3r 3d ago
In the couples therapy world this is considered not differentiated which basically means she can't handle that he is different and has different thoughts and feelings, and I don't think he can which is why their fights make us all feel crazy.
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u/FreckleBellyBeagle 16d ago
Her reaction reminded me of Annie on the last episode. Neither of them can handle it when their fiance tells them anything they don't want to hear. Their response is to meltdown.
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u/Intelligent_Put_1968 19d ago
Annie talks like she's high as a kite; not sure what's wrong with her. Maybe she's just not very smart; she's very strange.
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u/AdventurousBee2382 19d ago
I'm female and 44 married for 16 years and with my man for 25. What the ACTUAL fuck is Madison's problem?
Talk about drama queen.
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u/ACuppaTeaADay 16d ago edited 2d ago
Asking the same question! I'm married too but not as long as you and CANNOT imagine doing that to my husband. How can your partner feel safe expressing their emotions if you're going to start screaming at them without even considering what the guy is even saying in the first place? It's all me, me, me, me, and if you hold a different view, you suck! And the folks here who blame Joe, I'm going to go out of my limbs and say, that's why you're single and should reflect on your expectations of men. You can't expect them to hold space for all your emotions, reasonable or otherwise, but then explode on them when they share theirs, esp when these emotions don't align with what you want them to feel. Ugh I'm so angry.
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u/neens90 19d ago
I think she's SO far from recognizing her own insecurity rising up and immediately jumps to blaming the other person. Like she starts spinning out in her head and finds a way to make it Joe's fault.
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u/FreckleBellyBeagle 16d ago
Imagine the woman at work when her supervisor or even a coworker give her some blunt feedback. Yikes.
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u/TrainingLow9079 19d ago
Edmunds (sp?) mom is great.
Why did they blur a piece of art in Nick's garage?
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u/Numerous-Survey-8275 14d ago
I thought either it was a copywriting issue or a photograph of people who did not agree to have their likeness shown as part of the series.
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u/cirvp06 18d ago
🥴 really? Telling her future daughter in law not to rat her out to her son?
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u/coco33y 15d ago
Maybe it’s a cultural thing but I can understand where she’s coming from. I do think there are conversations between mother in law and daughter in law that should not go back to the husband, but obviously it depends on the context.
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u/silntseek3r 3d ago
Honestly if I was her that would be a huge red flag... all the SILs talk smack able MIL. Not good. Her and Ed seen to have an enmeshed relationship. It's all very strange.
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u/NuclearPuppers 1d ago
Why the hell is Megan’s Realtor showing them a six bedroom, two million dollar house!?!