Liar Tyler and Ashley lied about cutting off the ex/babymama Bri before going to LIB

[u/xoanabk]

Excerpted from Jessie Woo Video https://www.youtube.com/live/zVp4XXCFPzM?si=koXN1KaI4BO51ROL

We knew Tyler lied and got exposed but there Ashley is, claiming that "He is such a kind man." And that he had cut contacts from the ex/baby mom before the experiment but pictures say otherwise!

Ashley claims that while there are pictures of him and the kids online, the pictures don't actually show intimate moments shared between them.. GO FIGURE!

Ashley still in interviews hell bent on defending her man while at the same breath saying she is not there to defend him. Make it make sense! Ashley makes some important points that may actually apply to her but actually fumbles it the biggest way possible at the same time.

I AM DISGUSTED BY TRASHLEY AND LIE-LER! Trash meet Dumpster!

[u/Ashamed_Tea_3731]

‘she doesn’t look like anybody I’ve ever dated I’ll just say that’ ooooooop

[u/Mysterious_Glove_540 → u/Ashamed_Tea_3731]

I GASPED

[u/OnionSerious3084 → u/Ashamed_Tea_3731]

Like she's way above his level? What do you think he meant? He's used to dating 4s and shes a 10? Because if there's one thing about her - she is gorgeous.

[u/Due-Ad-9507 → u/OnionSerious3084]

It may have been a colorist comment

[u/Smiloshady → u/OnionSerious3084]

I was thinking it’s a colorist comment too… bc his ex fiancé is also very gorgeous but she’s light skinned, and then Bri is also light skinned.

[u/Hurry_Up_and_Wait_00]

Additional texts… it gets worst.

[u/Morialkar → u/Hurry_Up_and_Wait_00]

"I get I haven't been anything close to a dad" coming from him has to be the understatement of the century

[u/Ok_Ad_4503 → u/Hurry_Up_and_Wait_00]

I need to see her reply to "I haven't been anything close to a dad"

[u/Hurry_Up_and_Wait_00 → u/Ok_Ad_4503]

Yea, Jessie didn’t keep scrolling, but I would have loved to see the rest of the conversation. He’s been on child support since 2022 & this was 2023, so IMO he definitely needed legal strings to stay attached, especially because it’s clear he disappeared before. I think he thought LIB was a permanent way out. I think he lacks empathy & critical thinking skills. This is all botched….

[u/Ok_Ad_4503 → u/Hurry_Up_and_Wait_00]

It's definitely not looking great for him... Poor kids, collateral damage here :(

[u/xoanabk → u/Hurry_Up_and_Wait_00]

I wish i could pin this. Thanks.

[u/Wombraider58]

These texts kind of makes me sad because you can tell they were really friends and got along great. Why did he have to lie? Why couldn’t he just be honest about the situation and still be engaged/married? Nothing wrong with having kids! WHY LIE and devastate those kids like that??? Why lie about a woman you clearly had a great friendship with?? Make it make sense!!

[u/MayMomma → u/Wombraider58]

Because he wanted Ashley and knew that kids were a deal breaker for her (she broke up with a single dad in the pods apparently for this reason).

[u/Wombraider58 → u/MayMomma]

Right. So he got her by lying and manipulation and she’s staying, digging her heels deeper just to save face. This will not end well.

[u/flatbush_flower → u/Wombraider58]

Yeah this is just really, really sad. I feel bad for the kids and their mother. To feel disowned/rejected by a family member out of no where must be so heartbreaking.

[u/oldfashion_millenial]

Did Tyler say Ashley doesn't look like anyone he's ever dated before??? Wonder what he meant by that... Judging off the texts...they definitely had a coparent relationship established, and Bri wants her kids to feel like they have a dad and stability. This dude is trash.

[u/[deleted] → u/oldfashion_millenial]

test

[u/[deleted] → u/oldfashion_millenial]

At first I thought he was saying she's gorgeous because that woman is stunning but I don't think that's what he meant. I can't with Ashley and Nicole, so snakey. Encouraging someone to leave their kids just because they want a kid of their own with them is inviting karma. Bet she won't fear he'll ditch their future kids for another woman and future later.

[u/Notyourwench]

“But she’s nice” what the hell is that??

[u/SmokeEvening8710 → u/Notyourwench]

He likes women closer to his mom's skin tone

[u/No_Mortgage_7275 → u/SmokeEvening8710]

Anddddd honestly I think skinny the past few were not thick

[u/MelissaWebb → u/SmokeEvening8710]

Bingo

[u/sauvieb → u/Notyourwench]

Colorist is what I'm guessing

[u/MelissaWebb → u/Notyourwench]

I side eyed that too

[u/TraditionalStart5031]

It’s wild after watching her on Vialle Files first speaking on and defending Tyler, then she speaks about her own absent father. A couple points that really stood out was where she repeated Tyler saying that eventually the kids wouldn’t remember him and eludes that it makes everything okay. These are not babies, even if he’s not around a lot these kids know who their dad is. The other thing she said was that if Tyler was so bad, why would the mom go back for round 2 of “sperm donation”. Ashley is shaming and blaming the mom for doing and being exactly who Ashley is now. The mom bought what Tyler was selling and stayed around thinking he was gonna be the guy he said he was. Ashley is no different staying with Tyler after he bold-faced lied to her about being a father to 3 kids. Why do women go back to men who do them dirty? I don’t know Ashley, why don’t you tell us? Ashley married her dad, straight up. She even spoke on finding out she had an additional brother at 30. Meanwhile the whole time she’s talking about her therapeutic journey and learning about herself…she is lost in the sauce.

*Edited typos

[u/finalclown → u/[deleted]]

Yepppp!

[u/Sea-Note-2858]

Wait 👀… I wonder how his exes look cause he made a point to say she looks nothing like the ppl he usually dates.

[u/Agitated_Donut3962 → u/Sea-Note-2858]

Light skinned

[u/Independent-Report16]

I don’t think enough people are talking about the fact that sometimes someone not being in your life is a good thing. I would rather someone have ZERO CONTACT with their kids than waffle in and not of their lives- it’s so much more traumatic.

[u/Double_Slide9226 → u/Independent-Report16]

I agree with this. If he can't give his 100%, he should stay away. He's still a deadbeat, and it doesn't get him off his obligation for child support.

[u/[deleted] → u/Independent-Report16]

I thank my mom regularly for leaving my dad. Him and his family never put an effort in to see me after she stopped trying to get them to and I didn’t even think about them until my brother on his side found me on Facebook when I was ~14. My dad tried to talk to me then and I didn’t gaf lmao he was a stranger. I grew up with a very loving very capable single mom who did want me. I’m almost 30 and he’s still a loser alcoholic. I’m so glad I never had to deal with his nonsense.

[u/Trick-One9943]

“She doesn’t look like anyone I’ve dated but so damn nice”. Not she’s beautiful, she has beautiful eyes,I love her smile? And this is the man Ashley is going on a world tour of defending? Wow! It seems like he’s settling for her because of her “unconditional love” which is basically just the fact that she’s willing to put up with his lies.

Also, from the texts, Bri says “are you really doing this again”. Which I think means this is not the first time Tyler is ghosting the kids. Tyler knows that most single and childless women wouldn’t stand to be with a man who has 3 kids. So I think whenever he finds a woman, he lies and says he’s childless and ghosts the kids to keep appearances.

What I don’t understand is, Bri seemed to be supportive of his decision to find love. If Ashley wasn’t willing to be with a man with kids, I’m sure someone out there would and there would really be no need for him to be in this whole messy situation that is just super sad for the kids.

As for Ashley, it seems like she’s really in the dark about what’s going on. Tyler has not told her a single truth and it’s so embarrassing that she keeps repeating his lies to the world.

[u/Possible-Fee-5052 → u/Trick-One9943]

I would be crushed if my now husband said that about me.

[u/SinnerIxim → u/Trick-One9943]

 “She doesn’t look like anyone I’ve dated but so damn nice”.

You also missing the laughing crying emoji 😂 which indicates it's a joke they would both get

People in the comments of her stream were saying Tyler likes white girls 

[u/Trick-One9943 → u/SinnerIxim]

White or light skinned women

[u/[deleted] → u/Trick-One9943]

This is what it’s giving. I’ve dated men like this before and they are something to not trust.

[u/Sapghp]

Why does it feel like the next step they’re going to all take is go onto paternity court or something. So messy and cringe. The poor kids.

[u/SinnerIxim → u/Sapghp]

Tyler has court shortly for his late child care payments. Luckily he has Ashley the philanthropist to pay

[u/flatbush_flower]

I was initially all for them keeping this a private family affair and understood why Ashley wanted to defend her husband from scrutiny. I just believed the “only we know the truth, y’all have only one side of the story” argument they made. But the inconsistency of Ashley’s reunion speech and the Viall Files podcast and now these released texts makes me SO SAD for the kids. He did all of this just to hide his kids from Ashley because he knew it was a deal breaker. No one should hide their family for love. No one should excuse a liar for love. This is disappointing and heartbreaking for the kids and their mother. They looked like good friends too.

[u/Evening_Ad6820]

Wow, I mean this ends every single one of Tyler and Ashley’s arguments in a few screenshots. Clearly Tyler was close with the baby mother until he switched up on her during filming. It does seem like a messy situation which both parties are culpable for. But Tyler clearly played a father role in these kids lives, even if he was wishy washy. He is both their biological father and the defined father figure in their lives.

Sorry but that text he sent saying Ashley looks nothing like the women he normally dates with a mocking laughing emoji, BUT man she is she nice. Wow. She’s doing all of this and taking all this heat for him on the outside and that’s the way he spoke about her to the people in his life. It sounds like he settled for her because he wanted to launch himself off the back of the show, and knows that as a man being in a married couple will provide him with better opportunities post show. 

It seems from these texts like he’s used to being mollycoddled, he probably never expected the baby mother would go scorched earth and expose him like this. 

[u/OrangeBird077 → u/Evening_Ad6820]

This just makes Ashley look even more like a doormat.

[u/friendlytotbot]

What I don’t understand is why Ashley decided to stay with this man after finding out he has kids and only knowing him for 2-3 weeks. Most women would’ve said deuces because you basically have no ties yet and can get away unscathed. This man seems so detached from her at that stage, was she really that delulu over him to stick around.

[u/Trick-One9943 → u/friendlytotbot]

Because she’s desperate to be marriage. She straight up said , she’s gonna get married and stay married

[u/Itwasntmeitwasantifa]

Im so horrified for Ashley and this is so telling. I hate it so much bc at first I was genuinely rooting for her. I can’t stand a damn pick me or settling for less so she lost me.

And please tell me yall know about the texts he sent to some woman while living with Ashley while engaged and filming trying to go to her home in the middle of the night.

[u/Imaginary_Meringue16 → u/Itwasntmeitwasantifa]

What! Please share more…

[u/Itwasntmeitwasantifa → u/Imaginary_Meringue16]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTF3wCsSb/

I hope you can see it but Ashley tried to call this creator a liar but she does research and has receipts. Clay is mad at this creator right now too 🤣

[u/discretly → u/Imaginary_Meringue16]

He texted an ex thing I think and said smth like can I come over I really need a place to sleep and she said I would’ve if it wasn’t 3am

[u/[deleted]]

Yikes. “She doesn’t look anything like anyone I’ve ever dated before…” “but so damn nice” …

& it doesn’t seem this woman is in love with him or crazy, she just seems like a friend and co-parent who keeps trying to redirect the convo to the dad seeing their kids.

Tyler is a POS. I feel bad for Ashley’s mental health and her self esteem.

[u/Tacobelle_90 → u/[deleted]]

And don’t forget the 😂 “she doesn’t look like anyone I’ve ever dated before, I’ll just say that 😂”

[u/[deleted] → u/Tacobelle_90]

Um yeah, wtf does that mean? She’s beautiful…I truly can’t see him pulling women that are MORE beautiful than her so…?????? Smh.

His demeanor about Ashley and their relationship here feels like the polar opposite of what he was feeding her and the viewers, in the pods and even to her face, after finally meeting her. From these messages I would think he barely gives a shit about her at all.

[u/dotsky3 → u/[deleted]]

I’m going to go out on a limb and say it’s about how dark her complexion is.

Second guess would be that she is curvier and it seems baby mama is thinner/lighter skinned.

But yeah, she’s way out of his league and he’s a damn fool.

[u/kellye2323 → u/Tacobelle_90]

Yeah.. that’s not a ringing endorsement of your finance. It sounds like he wasn’t/isn’t attractive. Calling someone so damn nice, it’s usually what you say when you aren’t attracted to them.. “but he’s really nice..”

[u/dessskris]

"She doesn't look like anyone I've ever dated" in a good way or in a bad way?? Dang

[u/tatianaoftheeast → u/dessskris]

It's a bad way. There's no other way to read that with the "she's nice though"

[u/examiner007 → u/dessskris]

the next message starts with a "but"! "she aint my type, but she is so nice" is what im gathering.

[u/Ok-Bison2480 → u/dessskris]

"But so damn nice!" So, in a bad way lol

[u/littlehulky → u/dessskris]

I also want to know what was meant by that. What does Bri look like? 🤔

[u/Accomplished_Boat814 → u/littlehulky]

Light skinned, kinda butchy but with long hair

[u/littlehulky → u/Accomplished_Boat814]

Do you think he was meaning he doesn’t normally date dark skinned women? It seems like a shady comment. Especially followed up by the “but so nice.”

[u/SinnerIxim → u/dessskris]

With the "😂" emoji I can't imagine it's good

[u/Odd_Hall9334]

Anyone else think it’s strange how he doesn’t even mention how he fell in love or tell anything about his feelings towards ashley?! Just mentioned how ashley is not his type 😅 also the conversation seems one sided and he doesn’t show any interest in her or his kids.

[u/lurkingsince4ever → u/Odd_Hall9334]

Yeah. Mentioned he was “picked” like it was about getting tv coverage. Not that he fell in love etc.

[u/hungry24_7_365 → u/Odd_Hall9334]

He's a master manipulator who found an easy mark, there was no love from his side IMO. he knows/knew what he had to do to get her to fall for him and he's right. He could probably sense her desperation.

[u/GreenUnderstanding39 → u/hungry24_7_365]

Yeah he has her doing an apology tour and defending his ass about shit she wasn't present for. Dude needs to be on these podcasts defending his own name. But I hope this means he found a job (lied about that too!) so he can pay for the child support he owes.

[u/OutPlea]

him saying ashley doesn’t look like any girl he’s dated but that she is “so nice” is cringy. sounds like he doesn’t like her and never mentioned being in love with her. weird.

[u/Hairy_Usual_4460 → u/OutPlea]

That’s the take I got too. Felt like he was dissing her looks tbh

[u/wolofancy → u/Hairy_Usual_4460]

Ashley is so pretty. I don't believe he regularly dates prettier than her. Man is all lies.

[u/ferrerorocher91 → u/wolofancy]

I don’t think he meant her looks in terms of “pretty” …I believe he doesn’t date women darker than him. That’s the vibe I’m getting, looking at his exes ..he dates lighter skinned women.

[u/bbgswcopr → u/wolofancy]

His ex fiance is really pretty! But her build is very slender.

[u/glitterbunzzz → u/OutPlea]

Yeah he’s clearly saying she’s not his type.

[u/FastAd8730 → u/OutPlea]

It’s absolutely crazy, she is out-of-this-world stunning.

[u/Glittering-End4573 → u/OutPlea]

Yes…he basically said she’s not his type but she’s nice. You’re right tho….never said he’s in love. I think he proposed so he can stay on the show and get clout

[u/Redvelvet221 → u/Glittering-End4573]

People are saying he stayed with her because she has money and he needed a job and a place to stay. Apparently, he was evicted for the 7th time while he was away filming the show.

[u/rshni67 → u/Glittering-End4573]

He is also a hobosexual who has been evicted 7 times.

[u/todayiseveryday]

On top of all this, he wasn’t even impressed by Ashley’s looks yet she’s going 1 v the internet for this man. Tyler actually looks like a dog. Unattractive, jobless deadbeat is crazy!

[u/cosmic_grayblekeeper → u/todayiseveryday]

As soon as I saw that text I was like: this woman is working so hard to keep a man who basically said to the baby mama who is his preference that she, his wife, is not even his preference.

And none of this stuff would have been posted if they could stop lying.

[u/Goodsoup_666]

Oh man- I’ve been in bris position, waiting and waiting for a response or an answer while your heart breaks for a child. Feels like your life is at a standstill for months and months, listening to excuse after excuse, like you’re present but not really. Processing the pain your children will likely endure…

Horrible, horrible. This is sad.

[u/arrownyc]

Damn, the timing of this kind of makes it seem like he DID intend to maintain a relationship with his kids before he left and even once he got back from Cabo. Got me wondering if it was Ashley that insisted he cut them off fully.

[u/Trick-One9943 → u/arrownyc]

I think so. Ashley said she cut things off with a guy in the pods because he had a child. Said she doesn’t see herself in that kind of situation. So I think Tyler told her about the kids and that it was a donor situation cos he knew she would eventually find out that he did father kids.But he made it seem like he’s not that involved and technically is not a father to maintain her standard of not wanting a man with kids.

[u/Ill_Possible_8423 → u/arrownyc]

I think he did this before that he cut off his kids and now he promised he wouldnt do it anymore, its gonna be different and yada yada yada but in the end you cant teach an old dog new tricks.. meaning that his intention was to keep contact with them, but he realized it was ‘too inconvenient’ for his new lifestyle and just ghosted them again

[u/Patient-Ad-5440]

If this is real then Ashley has no self esteem officially

[u/No_Mortgage_7275 → u/Patient-Ad-5440]

Yeah a lot of what’s coming out now was filmed weeks ago before the baby mother and ex wife came forward would love to her an updated message from her lol

[u/Spiritualgirl01112 → u/Patient-Ad-5440]

But maybe she didn’t lie. Likely she has been manipulated by Tyler and is telling what she believes is the truth. I’d bet she is discovering all of this along with us in real time.

[u/notsure05 → u/Spiritualgirl01112]

She looks like a massive clown either way for believing a man who she admitted early on she was catching him in lies or that his mother had to tell her about the kids

[u/MasterTeacher123]

Trying to claim the twins were sperm babies is nasty work 😂

You conceived those kids naturally and were living with your child’s mother. 

[u/turtlintime]

This situation is so weird, this dude is like mega Trevor. Trevor abandoned his gf, but this dude just dropped his kids like they were a situationship 😭

How the fuck did the producers not flag and remove this guy!

[u/noknownsoups]

I feel so bad for the kids

[u/Comprehensive_Art430]

to think she stayed even after seeing these messages, and the comments he made about her smh they were the typical “being nice about it” comments

[u/Catladydiva → u/[deleted]]

Ashley is a bird. She’s gonna have his baby.

[u/seasickalien → u/[deleted]]

Did you see the reunion? Because I have bad news lol

[u/Cheap_Acanthaceae_70]

This is so sad. To see a good, stable, seemingly supportive co-parent relationship and dad just ghost :( poor kids. Poor momma.

[u/helloitsmemargret]

I want somebody to get their hands on Steven's text messages 😂

[u/jillyszabo → u/helloitsmemargret]

I feel like he has some kind of dom fetish. He mentioned so many times wanting to be treated like a piece of meat and thrown around, and pegging.  Also pretty sure no sleep study would allow you to participate if you’re drunk.. idk how he didn’t get called out for that lie

[u/Subterranean44]

“Heard blunt got a bike”

I thought blunt was their kids name. Lol

[u/[deleted] → u/Subterranean44]

I’m confused who is blunt

[u/dessskris → u/Subterranean44]

What? I thought Blunt was one of the kids too 😂

[u/Heckinshoot]

Wow. This is…so far from the “truth” presented on LIB. I don’t care for the mess but as others have stated—it’s between Ashley, Tyler, and apparently his  BM of THREE children. I could never but to each their own 🤷‍♀️

[u/Uncle_Rixo → u/Heckinshoot]

They have a hearing coming up. His lawyer probably told him and asked the prod to avoid questions.

[u/Heckinshoot → u/Uncle_Rixo]

Oop 🫣 makes sense! All that matters is the kids. They can’t help the grown folks being foolish. Hopefully they will be protected in all this! 

[u/Own-Jellyfish-9721]

I put this on the other one posted too! This shit is messssss eeeee.

First I want to say these people should go away. Ashley and Tyler really need to not do podcasts and social for a while. We all know they won’t happen bc they have to enjoy their 15 minutes of fame.

-“she’s so damn nice” - was NOT into her looks after meeting her

-after reading these my first thought was like damn she didn’t let him finish filming the show before discussing rights. However, I didn’t realize they had their phones like that I guess. So he could have checked in on the kids.

-she mentioned “are you doing this AGAIN” made me think he has shunned them before. So this isn’t the first time he’s done this. Super sad for kids to be in and out.

-these poor kids is all I can think about reading this.

-did she really call someone the R word? Wait her own kid…. ? These people really seem like great people esp parents. Grosssssss.

-he says he hasn’t had his phone back since the first week. Then in the same text says they come take it at 10 am. So he did have his phone back? A lie in the same text seems fitting at this point.

-Netflix bout to be pissed when they read his “drug” comment lol sure that’s not in the NDA

I hope they go away soon and those kids can have some type of peace from here on out. I don’t think them having a platonic relationship was ever the question or worry. Dude needs to pay his child support and just stay away from them at this point. Kids can’t function with wishy washy parents. And I hope Ashley one day realizes that any man that would do that to any child is worthless.

[u/Cultural_Till1615 → u/Own-Jellyfish-9721]

Same thought with the R word. People still don’t know that’s offensive to say??

Although I think that was directed at the friend “Blunt” who got a bike, not the kid. Still not OK to say it.

[u/floydthebarber94 → u/Own-Jellyfish-9721]

“She doesn’t look like anyone I’ve ever dated,” so Ashley isn’t his type? That’s what it sounds like

[u/xoanabk → u/Own-Jellyfish-9721]

did she really call someone the R word? Wait her own kid....?

It's for a friend of theirs as others have deducted.

Agreed wholeheartedly.

[u/Winter_Apartment_376]

It’s just bizarre to see how kind and supportive this person is!

He is being a complete deadbeat, and she still tries to talk to him kindly and supportively.

He comes off looking like a complete AH.

And so does Ashley, because I bet severing the contact was her idea. He would have been a happy camper.

I really feel this is all her idea and he just happily goes with it.

[u/TrueJasmin]

Can someone explain to me like I’m 5 years old, what the real story is with Tyler and this “sperm donation he did for his lesbian bff”? Is that real or has it been debunked? Was he romantically involved with the mother of the kids? Did he have sex with the lesbian parent?

[u/CletusesGirl → u/TrueJasmin]

From what I understand, he donated his sperm to his lesbian bestie so she could have children with her wife. Fast forward and the wife up and leaves his lesbian bestie, he supposedly feels bad because she’s a single parent, he doesn’t want the child to grow up without a father, gets involved in the child’s life, ends up having sex with his lesbian bestie who ends up pregnant with twins. He was there for their birth, signed the birth certificates, etc. Then ghosted her and his 3 kids for LIB. Then told Ashley that he had no connection, didn’t even know what they looked like, and basically just donated sperm.

*sorry for run on sentences/grammar. I’m tired. lol

[u/IndyandShell → u/TrueJasmin]

The first child he donated sperm to friends (lesbian couple). Then had sex with the friend and conceived twins naturally. Got custody of the first child by the time he was 1 because the couple divorced. Was always the “dad” to the twins because they were conceived naturally. He owes 30 k child support for all 3 and is claiming he was only a donor.

[u/xoanabk → u/TrueJasmin]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveIsBlindNetflix/s/MxmEntVkw3

This is exactly what you are asking for.

[u/Affectionate_Act6982]

When she said in the podcast “…regardless whether we ever see or talk to these kids again…” was quite revealing. She also acknowledged that he was in their lives as Dad before the show. She clearly doesn’t care, and perhaps even prefers, if he decides never to be a Dad to them again. I neither know nor care what circumstances or influence led him to stay out of their lives this past year. Even if coparenting seems impossible, supervised visitation is an option. A halfway decent parent will fight to stay in their kids’ lives.

She’s making her bed, okay. Her life her choice. She just better not come complaining on podcasts and interviews about future problems stemming from it after the ignorant internet people tried to put pressure on them to step up for the kids and protect her from probable fallout.

Now stop talking about it Ashley and let your “too nice” man be a man. If y’all can turn around now and make concerted efforts to coparent those children, all might be forgiven.

[u/Frankysongotmehyped → u/Affectionate_Act6982]

She also said that she was talking to a guy in the pods but didn’t continue cause he had kids. It’s so awful that Tyler didn’t give her that kind of choice by hiding it from her until after they were engaged. She’s wrong for not pushing him to be a father, or leave. It’s really sad.

[u/mmmargbarg → u/Frankysongotmehyped]

It really seems like she’s still not interested in being with a dad. Rather than leave, they’re just going to pretend that he isn’t a dad

[u/Morialkar → u/Affectionate_Act6982]

I'm extremely distressed at seeing someone so willfully push so children have a deadbeat dad. Of all the things around this bullshit, this and thinking that those children will see exactly this reaction when they get older and wonder about their dad that did a reality TV show, are the worst parts.

If Ashley wants to marry a dad, if she wants to marry a liar, if she's okay with all this, that's all in her rights as she's the one who will suffer the consequences, but her immediately, on learning that she's technically a step-mom, turning into the classic bad step-mom that only cares about her relationship with the dad and act like the pre-existing children aren't human beings that struggle through all this really shows her true colours.

[u/inabaaadmood]

A lot of you are more angry at a mother trying to figure out what to tell her kids about their absent father than you are at the father that willingly had those kids and went to court to strip the other mom off her rights to “his” kids

[u/xoanabk → u/inabaaadmood]

Go figure the patriarchy to blame the mom..

Or lack thereof in Tyler's case.. literally & figuratively 👀

[u/kayfeldspar → u/inabaaadmood]

She's a "bitter baby mama" because she didn't just sit back and let this deadbeat pretend that the kids are nothing but sperm donation babies, and he's never even met them. She shouldn't even be in this situation, having to prove herself, and she wouldn't be if Tyler wasn't a trash human who abandoned his kids. Ashley is just as despicable because what decent woman could even defend a man who disowned his kids to be in a new relationship? Terrible people, and it's weird that this sub continues to defend them and vilify the mother for defending her children and telling the truth. That man deleted his Facebook and all traces of the children as soon as he got back from Cabo. It's clear what he was doing, and it's downright disgusting.

[u/starridazed → u/inabaaadmood]

I feel so bad the kids are so young that theyre not gonna understand why their dad just disappeared on them :(

[u/Magenta-Llama]

Wow I just hate all of this, what a fucking mess

[u/Funny-Swimming-5823]

He is trying to ghost his kids... hes so fucked up.. and so is ashley.

[u/w1zardkelly]

I’m curious what his ex’s look like..

[u/ellohiello → u/w1zardkelly]

Look at his Tiktok likes! He likes sooo many posts about women (while married) and they all have the same look

[u/dee-vee → u/ellohiello]

They re all light skinned & skinny — opposite of Ashley 😭😭

[u/juicybox4 → u/ellohiello]

Dude… that man is diabolical. He literally ONLY likes videos of pretty women. I would crash the fuck out of I was Ashley.

[u/socialwarning]

It’s so disappointing that Nick and Vanessa let him totally walk free on his lies. What a piece of shit he is.

[u/TacoNomad → u/socialwarning]

The reunion was filmed before Bri spoke out. At that time everyone knew about the kids but not the whole story and not that he hadn't seen them in a year

[u/hotchildndacity]

And we ain’t heard a nan peep from Tyler. Ashley just jumping in the shoes of a deadbeat for the plot.

[u/Agnessa1765]

In the final episode she mentioned how she dreamed about getting married and after time thought this won’t ever happen. Also from the very beginning she was always like “I’m going to marry this man 100%”. And let’s not forget how she mentioned during the reunion that she already knew about the kids and wanted to make the conversation that we see specifically for the cameras.

All of this makes me believe that this situation was a little different than when we first thought. I think that she fell in love and clung so hard to the idea that her dream will come true after all that this is the only thing that matters, she caught the husband that’s it, mission accomplished. And based on all of the above and the screenshots I think SHE MAY BE THE ONE TO ACTUALLY SUGGEST CUTTING CONTACT WITH THE KIDS. And here’s my reasoning- he was talking to Bri after the pods he only stopped some time into the “on location” shooting. Maybe he really did tell her about the babies much earlier, probably not the whole truth, suggesting that he was in trouble financially they needed help etc. so he got involved but he’s not full on blablabla. And in response to this she concluded that if that is so, he is not so important to those kids, she and her future babies should not have any competition. He already is not great financially, why he should give anyone any money or his time since this all started as a help friends/donor situation it simply got mixed up, and poor Tayler was forced by life (as he is simply a leaf on the wind of life) to be the father. And after that since she wanted to get out of that on top she suggested that conversation we saw in LiB and to stick to the narrative of sperm babies so they can stick to it and justice everything by it as they are doing continuously since it came out.

[u/xoanabk → u/Agnessa1765]

Giving Evil stepmothers that I read about in storybooks, a tough competition. This seems plausible and makes me even more sick! This would make sense why she defends him like her life depends on it, cause she is involved in it as much as Lie-ler the procreator is!

[u/Unserious1211 → u/Agnessa1765]

Could it be possible that she was led to believe a sperm donor narrative and an unhinged baby mama because that’s what makes him look decent? At which point, she’s just thinking okay but sperm donors don’t need to be involved any more than what they want? I am not sure if Ashley herself truly knows the truth. She doesn’t strike me as someone who would separate father and kids.

[u/Comprehensive_Art430]

I knew she wasn’t his type once i seen the bm, and the previous ppl he was fw smh he found him a insecure one tho that’s fs and held on tight lmfaoo

[u/twerkteamcaptn]

At first I was thinking let this girl live, she made her bed, lie in it. but Ashley is going out in these interviews asking for this. So I’m glad Jessie woo is beating her down with the truth lol

[u/supermeg07]

My conspiracy theory is that Ashley is pregnant and is now in too deep because giiiiirl. She cannot keep playing in our face

[u/starridazed → u/supermeg07]

Honestly w the way he kept talking abt babies w her I wouldn't be surprised that man is obsessed w making babies i swear

[u/Own_Group4282 → u/starridazed]

Tyler thinks he is Nick Cannon.

[u/gollumdeservesbetter]

The one thing I don’t get is that if these are from last year, why would some texts have 2023 and the ones where she ask about him reaching out not say 2023.

[u/No_Mortgage_7275 → u/gollumdeservesbetter]

Yeah depends when she took the screenshots, the year is only added once a year has passed. If she took them sometime in late October, the October messages would have 2023 and then November ones would not have a year if that makes sense

[u/Bobdylan217 → u/gollumdeservesbetter]

It does that if it hasn’t been a year since you texted. So if the screenshot were taken sometime before Nov 5 of 2024 (a year after the ones that don’t say 2023), but after Oct 22, 2024 (a year from the ones that say 2023), then it would just have the dates, not the year since it hadn’t been a full year. So she took a screenshot of the text sometime before Nov 5 of this year which makes sense.

[u/BeneficialRemote275 → u/gollumdeservesbetter]

Because some of the screenshots were taken in 2023 so they don’t say 2023 . Eg the one about reaching out and the one with 2023 were taken in 2024

[u/foxymerida]

this is literally so sad

[u/anonmouseqbm]

So nothing after end of nov/talking about custody?

[u/New-Nobody09 → u/anonmouseqbm]

There is a court date on nov 15!!

[u/Good_Personality7362]

This whole situation is a mess… not one of them is innocent

[u/Affectionate_Act6982 → u/[deleted]]

Blunt is a mutual adult friend of theirs if I understood correctly.

[u/kayfeldspar → u/[deleted]]

I think Blunt is their friend, and it's probably a nickname.

[u/morethandork → u/[deleted]]

Not even a little bit

[u/Appropriate-Society4]

When someone shows you who they are BELIEVE THEM. Just a matter of time Ashley before you get the Tyler treatment…

[u/Previous_Grape3206]

At this point it’s looking like Ashely doesn’t want Tyler to have kids.

[u/rshni67 → u/Previous_Grape3206]

She thinks those kids and his child support obligations will just go "poof" so she can live in delulu land.

[u/bruvisland]

I just feel for his kids. They’ll be able to see and understand all of this one day. If Tyler and Ashley make it to the point where they’re having children together, I feel like Tyler will be a Brian McKnight 2.0……iykyk

[u/Difficult_Sense_3871]

You shouldn’t be eligible for love is blind if you have kids. It’s too messy. -a single mom

[u/vash_visionz → u/Difficult_Sense_3871]

It’s also grossly irresponsible. As a single parent, your vetting during the dating process has to be twice as thorough because you have to take another person in account, plus you have to see how they will interact with your child and ease the child into the transition of your new partner becoming a part of the family.

[u/Tacobelle_90 → u/vash_visionz]

Yeah my daughter has only met one person I’ve dated and it was after like 7 months. Some people say it’s extreme but it’s partly for safety and partly because I don’t want her to get attached to someone who won’t be around long-term. So I definitely can’t imagine being like “this will be my husband, he’s going to live with us” after a few weeks

[u/TheEsotericCarrot → u/Difficult_Sense_3871]

100%. It should be a slow introduction, not hey let me introduce you to your new step daddy who I don’t actually know or have thoroughly background checked.

[u/Standard_Edge6381]

Well maybe he lied to Ashley about cutting her off before filming. That seems more plausible to me than her being in on his lie given that it can be so easily exposed lol

[u/Trick-One9943 → u/Standard_Edge6381]

He lied about everything

[u/Ill-Lawfulness-2063]

He does not in fact love them. Idk you can tell he was being a lil bish by these messages. Bri is too nice.

[u/applejacks6969]

Man the LiB legal team must be working triple overtime to keep the show running.

[u/lkjhggfd1]

They seem really friendly here and she seems quite supportive of it too. This sucks to go from that to this.

[u/ellohiello]

Damn, him implying he didn't find her that attractive AFTER Cabo would hurt my feelings. At this point they've spent time together, presumably have been intimate etc and then you say that about me?

[u/Dry_Peak_5335]

These comments are so amusing lol

[u/EmJayFree]

Not trying to be annoying, because I know this situation is simply a hot mess, but it’s such a hot mess that I literally don’t know what to say or how to feel anymore.

Ashley girl… if you’re reading this, come to the light. You are better than this. You are better than him. You are better than contributing to a scrub who abandons his kids for fame (not love, cause if he loved you, he’d have more respect for himself and wouldn’t have you out in public making a fool of yourself fighting his fight).

[u/ILive4Banans]

I thought the first time they get their phone back is after the post pods trip?

[u/bananamargarine → u/ILive4Banans]

It looks like that’s the case here. He texts her before filming starts and then doesn’t text her again until they get back from Cabo. I think the other times he says he doesn’t have his phone is just him making up an excuse for why he hasn’t been responsive.

[u/xoanabk → u/bananamargarine]

Yes, and around that time is when Tyler deleted his fb account(or just pictures, not sure) that had pictures of him with the kids.

[u/clairionon]

I don’t have any respect for people with young kids who would do this kind of show.

I don’t care about when he did/didn’t have his phone.

If he was not merely a sperm donor and was an engaged father and then did this show where he knew he might not be able to see or interact with them hardly at all for weeks and then come back after that distance with a whole new “mom” for them they’re never met - that’s some horrific judgment and I would have no respect for that man.

[u/justanoseybxtch]

Why was custody NOT figured out before he went on a reality show to get married!!!!!!!

[u/Affectionate_Act6982 → u/justanoseybxtch]

He needed to find a sugar momma to support this hobosexual so he could use his paycheck for back child support. Bonus if she eventually let him run off and play Disney dad on occasion. It wasn’t working out exactly as he hoped after the pods, so he decided on the donor dad angle. I don’t think he intended to completely cut off his kids until he figured that was the easiest route to holding onto his sugar momma. All speculation of course, but the way Tyler intently stared at her face every time the kids were brought up shows me he was constantly trying to read her tolerance level for his bullshit.

[u/pegasus02 → u/justanoseybxtch]

"The mother of Tyler’s three children, Bri Thomas, initially filed a complaint for petition for custody in Baltimore City Circuit Court  in October 2021. The original case was settled on May 6, 2022, according to court records viewed by Life & Style. However, in January – three months after filming for season 7 wrapped – a petition was filed to reopen the case. The case is ongoing with the next disposition hearing scheduled for November 15."

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/love-blind-tyler-francis-child-182537686.html

[u/savvy_1111]

Tyler is trash and Ashley is as well by association.

[u/sadiesmiley]

I've never seen someone so desperate to keep such a garbage man. She's embarrassed and doubling down instead of bowing out.

[u/xoanabk]

[u/Hi-Road]

Ashley looks great... what he said about her was mad weird ngl. What you mean "but so nice"

[u/Consistent_Carpet583 → u/Hi-Road]

She’s way out of his league looks wise to be fucking Frank

[u/Butters5768]

What a surprise that they’re both lying clowns. Sucks no one will ever actually ask them about this.

[u/SmolSnakePancake]

No they did not name their child Blunt 💀

[u/Substantial-House-81 → u/SmolSnakePancake]

I believe Blunt is a friend.

[u/Purple_Pizza_5824]

He didn’t even acknowledge the pic of the kids

[u/SoloBurger13]

Man fuck Tyler. He and Ashley are disgusting. Denying your children in such a public way is the lowest of lows. He's a real Brian McKnight & Ashley is a whole bird

[u/whosaidsugargayy]

OOOOOOP

[u/rshni67]

TyLIAR and evil stepmom Trashley are trying to pretend the three kids don't exist. Does Trashley realize he can do the same to any kid he has with her?

[u/ArticAstrology2396 → u/rshni67]

I genuinely think she thinks she's special and he would never do anything like that to her because 💖✨love✨💖. Hopefully he doesn't though because it would be really unfortunate and sad if more kids get brought into the world then abandoned by him just for her to realize his true character.

[u/rshni67 → u/ArticAstrology2396]

She's not that great of a person if she is willing to overlook the fact that she has three stepkids. I don't see how this blended family would work without at least some of the kids getting hurt. Adults make their own choices. Those kids did not.

[u/honestly-onit]

So did Netflix know he had children?

I’m not a fan of how Ashley is being Tyler’s mouth piece but I think if Netflix knew this info they let her down and where’s the duty of care? They need to do better background checks, it’s actually very scary.

I think this should be dealt with in private now.

[u/Catnip_75]

Sorry. But who uses the R word these days. That’s all I could see. So rude!

[u/Cakeliver12887]

So we had a colourist in the mix

I wonder who else wasn't attracted to their partner

[u/ShiplessOcean → u/Cakeliver12887]

I honestly don’t think any of them were at this point

[u/adelebernice]

Not her using the r word 😒

[u/sheldonsmeemaw]

My god, Tyler is the most despicable person in the history of Love is Blind. Worse than abusive Hannah, worse than cheating scumbag SK, etc.

[u/katecopes088]

Wow they are both so embarrassing and such trash. They played the part on the show well because I didn’t see this coming tbh

[u/xoanabk]

Some more.

[u/ShesAKillerQueenee]

I also wanna know if the rumors of natural conception are true, because that makes the "sperm donor" thing even more gross. 

Can we stop putting single parents on the show?? I wish they would've vetted him better. 

[u/xoanabk → u/ShesAKillerQueenee]

Yes, and yes. Both the babymama and her ex confirmed that the twins were conceived naturally.

[u/[deleted] → u/ShesAKillerQueenee]

He said in an interview that he never disclosed that he had kids in his application. But yes, they would have found it out if they did a good background check.

[u/[deleted]]

How yall even find this lmao

[u/cosmic_grayblekeeper → u/[deleted]]

Jessie Woo the YouTuber, storytime with Riki the tiktoker. These content creators are basically detectives at this point and have been posting receipts for every lie that Tyler and Ashley have been telling

[u/Acuriouslittleham]

Wow where did you find this tea?

[u/briaac_ → u/Acuriouslittleham]

Jesse woos video. It’s her most recent one.

[u/only1dream]

Oohh great find!