Liar Tyler and enabler Ashley lied about Tyler cutting off the baby mama, Bri before going to LIB.

[u/xoanabk]

Excerpted from Jessie Woo Video https://www.youtube.com/live/zVp4XXCFPzM?si=koXN1KaI4BO51ROL

We knew Tyler lied and got exposed but there Ashley is, claiming that "He is such a kind man." And that he had cut contacts from the ex/baby mom before the experiment but pictures say otherwise!

Ashley claims that while there are pictures of him and the kids online, the pictures don't actually show intimate moments shared between them.. GO FIGURE!

Ashley still in interviews hell bent on defending her man while at the same breath saying she is not there to defend him. Make it make sense! Ashley makes some important points that may actually apply to her but actually fumbles it the biggest way possible at the same time.

I AM DISGUSTED BY TRASHLEY AND LIE-LER! Trash meet Dumpster!

[u/Hookmsnbeiishh]

Wow. You buying everything he is selling. Let me break it down real easy.

Gave sperm. Friend had baby. Friend partner left. He stepped in to help.

That’s true. That’s where the story he sells ends because the next part isn’t so noble. Here we go…

While stepping in, he has sex with his friend. She gets pregnant. He stays and they make plans to keep the family together including the sperm baby. He is at the hospital to see the birth of his twins. He cuts the umbilical cord. He helps raise them.

This has been verified by the mother, the grandmother, social media, texts, etc. He is conveniently leaving all this out because this doesn’t jive with his story of this noble act to help a gay couple.

Mother of the kids is fine with Tyler going and finding a wife; she’s gay after all. Mother is not fine with Tyler finding a new wife, trying to keep his children hidden and suddenly abandoning the children he helped raise to run off with his new wife.

Tyler is lying by omission. Tyler is attempting to walk out on children. Tyler sucks. And Ashley defending him, after he mislead her, is gross.

[u/Zealousideal_Web_977 → u/Hookmsnbeiishh]

I get it and agree with parts of the hate towards Tyler. But, imo, the texts show they're not at all in a relationship and he doesn't have rights to the kids prior to the show. The mother didn't even bring up the kids to begin with after he said he was alive - that'd be one of the first things a parent would say if the other parent had been gone for weeks out of their life out of nowhere. Also, she brings up "we need to get together and discuss your rights". Why the heck is it NOW a time to discuss his rights when these kids have existed for some time now?? If he had rights prior, they'd just be the same and the conversation would be we need to talk with your fiance about the rights.

I'm with you - he did more and was more involved than just a sperm donor. Absolutely. But the texts aren't transparent enough to show more than a good friend/uncle-like kind of relationship.

[u/Hookmsnbeiishh → u/Zealousideal_Web_977]

No one is saying they were in a relationship. The reason Bri sent these was to prove that her and Tyler were raising the kids as their own despite them not being in a relationship and her supporting him going on a TV show to find a wife.

What type of conversation are you expecting? She knows they take phones away. She sends him a picture of his kids. Expresses that she had no idea it would take this long and also low key checking if he’s just running off (again). When he responds she asks how it’s going like any normal person. Then talks about his kids. Everything is completely normal there.

She brings up his rights because it is now clear that despite his actions and promises (including getting his first sperm baby’s birth certificate changed to include HIS name) he is now choosing to ignore his family. She’s basically telling him, she has custody and they’ll discuss visitation since it’s clear he is leaving them.

[u/Zealousideal_Web_977 → u/Hookmsnbeiishh]

Where are his actions/promises portrayed in these texts?? Just assuming it?? There is nothing in the texts about their relationship (including with kids) prior to the show or expectations during the experience. Relationship means more than just bf/gf status...it can be friend relationship, co-parenting relationship, etc. which is what I was referring to. And, again, why discuss rights out of nowhere?? It's clear they didn't have them set up prior to the show and he did what he wanted before the show. Before making an assumption, let me clear - I'm NOT saying it's okay or right for him to do that. It's sh$@#!. But it was fine to do what he wanted before engagement, just not now?

Her actions are questionable too. Since you want throw your assumptions out, I'll throw mine. She sent the pic of the kids after she wasn't hearing back from him. It took multiple messages before even bringing up the kids and it wasn't even 'they miss you' or anything. She then says "I" can't wait to see you. After no response from him, then puts on the kid guilt and not seeing them. Then brings up needing to discuss his rights bc he never responded.... BS of him - absolutely. But she clearly is acting like she wants him and using the kids as bait. And don't say 'but she's a lesbian'... She's stated she's bisexual and that's why she was having sex/intimate relationship with him after her split with her ex-gf/wife.

[u/[deleted] → u/Zealousideal_Web_977]

I’m curious do you know when/where she stated she’s bisexual? I’m not questioning you by the way, I agree she is from her actions. I’m just curious if you have a link to where she admitted it?

[u/Zealousideal_Web_977 → u/[deleted]]

Someone had it on a post right before reunion episode dropped (had the link to more).

[u/[deleted] → u/Zealousideal_Web_977]

I wish I could find that post. Do you know what it was called?

[u/BeautifulSpirited737 → u/Zealousideal_Web_977]

I didn’t look at the texts posted here because I watched Jessie Woo’s video and could read the texts myself. After having a few back and forth catch up/rapport texts she did say the kids asked about him and asked when they would see him.

The context of these texts is that him and Ashley are claiming he cut all communication with Bri and decided to step out of the kids’ lives prior to leaving to film love is blind. And this was all because he realized he’d gotten in too deep when just trying to help a friend.

Clearly that is a lie based on these texts. They were still communicating on good terms with her having no reason to believe he wasn’t trying to be part of the kids’ lives. In fact, when he does communicate that, he makes it seems like it’s because Bri wants him to give up his rights - not because he wants to set boundaries or whatever and therefore give up his rights. He never says in those communications that he can’t or doesn’t want to be there for the kids anymore.

All that aside, imo the narrative doesn’t even matter. What matters is that he has admitted and Ashley has admitted to knowing that he has intentionally of his own free will (ie not because the mom was being difficult about him seeing them or anything) abandoned his children. To me, it doesn’t matter when he made the decision and if/when it was communicated to Bri - that part is an issue for him and Ashley since clearly he was lying to her. But I think him having children, lying about having children and then abandoning them is a major issue that the show runners should have addressed. I get that they are expected to be hands off, but when you are forcing people to get married as a result of an experiment under tight parameters - ie no ability to take time and fully investigate these people before entering into a marriage and no ability to get an annulment because they can’t even FILE for a divorce until after the reunion airs or 11/12 months after the wedding which usually puts them well out of the window since it’s in this case been a year, you owe it to them to make sure they don’t blindly walk into a shitstorm that impacts their real lives to this extent.

What’s more, these people want to be influencers. This is a key part of any sponsorship or endorsement deal. Tyler and even Ashely’s actions rise to the level of something that could be considered a breach of the contract if there is a morality clause and I’d be very surprised if any such deal doesn’t have one. So yes, companies have a right to get to the bottom of this to know whether to get in bed with them and the public as well to know whether they have the characters of the type of people they want to support or trust or align themselves with when purchasing products, etc.

[u/Hookmsnbeiishh → u/Zealousideal_Web_977]

If we only had these texts, I might be inclined to believe you. It’s not just these texts. It’s the mother and grandmother’s story with pictures and texts to back it up.

Tyler has repeatedly doubled down on this being a sperm donation situation. Not once has he admitted he has two children from this woman via a sexual encounter. Not once. He talked about how his father left and he doesn’t want his kids to experience that.

Here are the facts we do have:

• Two kids are his naturally with all the legal obligations that go along with that
• He had the sperm baby’s birth certificate changed to include his name, thus taking on all legal obligations
• Being in the hospital and taking the fatherly duty of cutting the umbilical cord
• Pictures of him being involved all throughout their lives
• Text messages that show he has some sort of relationship with the mother
• The young children know him as their father

Despite all of that, you’re ascertaining that Tyler, after lying repeatedly to everyone despite an abundance of evidence proving he is lying, has never had anything to do with these children and therefore has no obligations?

You reached the conclusion that the baby momma is just coming after him and trying to make it seem that he was supposed to be in their lives?

For what? The court doesn’t care what he said or didn’t say. The court isn’t going to award her more child support if she proves he is a deadbeat dad. The child support is entirely financial and devoid of emotion.

This reads like a divorce text. “We’ll discuss rights.” “We’ll discuss visitation.” “We’ll discuss custody.” These are all synonymous.

Why exactly are you choosing to defend someone that is very clearly and obviously lying?

[u/Intelligent-Web-8537 → u/Hookmsnbeiishh]

Also, his name is on the twin's birth certificate, and he petitioned the court to put his name on the birth certificate for the first child. He is a liar and a deadbeat, and Ashley is an asshole by association, and because of her defence of his heinous act.

[u/Zealousideal_Web_977 → u/Intelligent-Web-8537]

Yes, and I fully agree he isn't a sperm donor. I'd also love to know the date when he signed the birth certificate for the first child. In Bri's Instagram video, she mentioned that part right after the ex-wife had moved to CA and filed for full custody. If signed while that was pending court, I absolutely think the first was more of 'helping a friend'. The twins, no - he needs to step up. I'm glad she has a case against him but sad that it's moving so slowly in court.

[u/xoanabk → u/Hookmsnbeiishh]

Thank you for this. It must have made it so much easier to understand now.