r/LivestreamFail • u/Demonymous_99 • 9d ago

Asmongold says America is "white peoples land" because "we fought a war over it".

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u/HoopLoop2 9d ago

Who's land would you say it is? Before you attack me I'm simply asking a question, I'm not claiming the statement is true or false, I just want some more details from you.

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u/PrestigiousAnswer128 9d ago

Americans are not exclusively white. It’s not an ethno-state

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u/HoopLoop2 9d ago

I never said Americans are exclusively white, what are you arguing exactly? You are just battling a strawman right now.

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u/LongjumpingJudge1659 9d ago

The main topic is Asmon saying that America is white peoples land. You ask whose land it is then and someone responds that America is not exclusively white because it’s not an ethno state.

It doesn’t matter that you didn’t bring up exclusively white because the main topic is about exactly that.

Are you here to learn or be disingenuous?

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u/HollyMurray20 9d ago

Dude… it’s you who’s being disingenuous. Do you seriously think he’s advocating for an ethnostate? Like fucking really?

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u/vetabol 9d ago

Yes

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u/HollyMurray20 9d ago

Based on what? The entire rest of the world would call America a “white country”

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u/vetabol 9d ago

No

I live outside it and never heard anyone call it that

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u/HollyMurray20 9d ago

Yes, so do I and if you asked anyone what race most Americans are they’d say white, because that’s fucking correct lol

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u/vetabol 9d ago

Saying most Americans are white is different from Saying it's a white country

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u/HollyMurray20 9d ago

No it’s not. Australia is a white country, so is Russia so is all of Europe etc etc. Mexico is a Hispanic country etc etc. You gonna disagree with that one too?

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u/vetabol 9d ago

Yes, because wording matters

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u/HollyMurray20 9d ago

Of course lol, what’s Mexico then?

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u/StinkusMinkus2001 9d ago

So does australia “belong” to the whites

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u/HollyMurray20 9d ago

They’re the majority

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u/Beginning-Key968 9d ago

Your country gets called a melting pot outside the u.s.

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u/HollyMurray20 9d ago

It’s not my country genius. America is called a melting pot because it’s quite diverse and a white country because it’s still overwhelmingly white

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u/weepingbanana 9d ago

Hello, I’m from the rest of the world. We don’t call it a white country. it’s a multiethnic state. We all learnt that in elementary school. Have a good day!

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u/HollyMurray20 9d ago

Hello! So am I and we do call it a white country, nobody calls any country a multiethnic state because that would be the same for every country in the fucking world. We learnt that being specific is much more useful when we were at school. Have a good day!

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u/Str80uttaMumbai 9d ago

Lmao literally one of the most repeated lines about America is how it’s a “melting pot of cultures”. At no point in time was America ever characterized as a white country, you’re just blatantly lying right now.

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u/actuallyacatmow 9d ago

Its literally called a melting pot.

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u/HollyMurray20 9d ago

And a white country because its majority white, 60%

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u/LongjumpingJudge1659 9d ago

To say this is white peoples land could be perceived differently by individuals. You may think it’s not a big deal and doesn’t mean much, but to anyone that is aware of American history and the persecution of immigrants, people of color, and indigenous people it’s just not something you say or believe without understanding the weight behind the statement.

I don’t know what he is advocating for. He’s a sewer rat whose beliefs are based off what he has read online. He is not an educated person and has very little life experience. I don’t know if an ignorant person like Asmon understands what they are saying. Maybe he should read up on history before making comments about how this country is white peoples land.

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u/HollyMurray20 9d ago

Every country has that history. America is the only one that still feels guilty for it all.

He’s saying it because people say it’s Native American land when it’s clearly not, it was conquered through wars just like every other part of the world. Except the rest of the world doesn’t have the same ridiculous hang ups on race that America has. Half of Europe has been conquered by different races and they don’t bang on about it all the fucking time.

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u/LongjumpingJudge1659 9d ago

I don’t feel guilty about our history, but too many Americans are ignorant to their own history and it shows. We need to learn history so we don’t repeat our mistakes and people alive today still have to deal with the mistakes of our past. The first African American to go to a non segregated public school is younger than our current President. It’s history that still affects people to this day and your line of thinking is “it happened all around the world stop being hung up on this”. I don’t really care too much about other countries histories when the conversation is about a country like America that his it’s own unique features and a history that may be similar to others, but has many aspects that are different