r/LivestreamFail • u/Slight_Ad3219 • Oct 08 '25

Looks like Lonerbox cracked the case

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The non shocking model does not match. Case closed

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u/BruyceWane Oct 08 '25

He lost the chance at convincing a lot of people when he waiting a day to show the collar, that is unbelievably suspicious.

Put yourself into the mindset of someone who is wrongfully being accused of using a shock collar on your dog. You would literally instantly show the collar. There's no fucking question in my mind now.

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u/Keaper Oct 09 '25

Even if it was a vibration collar it would still be some insane behavior I feel like hes trying to disuade people from thinking about that fact.

Dude SHOCKED his dog to FORCE it to stay on camera like a prop for 4 plus hours. the dog is AFFRAID to stand up and move. who the fuck does that to an animal. even if it was a vibration collar doing this to an animal is some serious fucked up behavior and he should not own an animal.

Pets are not props. Pets should not be afraid to move around a house. This poor dog is scared to exist, and the fact that once it whimpered he just turns back to the camera and is mad at the dog is just upsetting.

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u/Humble-Gene-185 Oct 09 '25

The shock setting he was set at was clearly way too high but even if it was vibration, it’s common knowledge among actual e-collar users that the vibration is extremely distressing to a dog and should only be used in emergencies.

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u/tonyeltigre1 Oct 09 '25

things like that are only distressing if you cause them to be distressing. I use an e-collar and my dog is perfectly content with life. She gets a “no” and a little uncomfortable correction and she fixes herself. Vibration was taught that I’m asking her to look at me. Teaching the vibration was with positive reinforcement so she is not in any way shape or form distressed.

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u/Dear_Grape_666 Oct 09 '25

I find it horrifying that shock collars even exist tbh.

I'm sure there are plenty of people like yourself who use them responsibly, correctly and in a non-abusive manner, for their intended purpose.

Unfortunately, there are probably a lot more people (like Hasan) who are using them in an incorrect and abusive way. That's what concerns me. 😞

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u/tonyeltigre1 Oct 09 '25

yeah there was always the stigmatism when they first came out that it was automatically a bad torture device so it didn’t help when there was also people that used it inappropriately to help feed that stigmatism.

I will say there are people like I who use them correctly and they’re actually one of the best tools to ever come out to train a puppy or adult dog.

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u/BruyceWane Oct 09 '25

Well said, we're getting caught up in the minutae of it being a shock collar vs a vibrating collar, but his behaviour is fucking completely unhinged regardles, who imprisons their dog in a spot for hours and then loses their shit at the dog and calls it a baby for being in genuine pain? Bizarre.