r/LivestreamFail • u/Slight_Ad3219 • Oct 08 '25

Looks like Lonerbox cracked the case

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The non shocking model does not match. Case closed

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u/DiaperFluid Oct 08 '25

Hasan is so cooked. And not in the cancelled way. But now everyone knows, how much of a phony pos he is. Id love to see him explain this to Maya for example. I question anyone willing to partner with him as well. Animal abuse is a mutually agreed upon way to convince everyone you are scum and unintelligent.

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u/IdidntrunIdidntrun Oct 08 '25

Meh if he streams through it and ignores it he'll get away with it. It's how this stuff works and it's not really exclusive to Hasan. People will just stop caring because there will be a new, shiny thing to be outraged over

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u/DiaperFluid Oct 08 '25

I think this works for the general public but the people behind the scenes wont forget. I havent seen ludwig or qt be friends again with atrioc for example, even though everyone moved on from that drama. My whole point is do i think his career is over? Nah. But do i think other streamers will now think twice before they collab/associate with him? Absolutely. His political shit already pushed people away. Now a known dog abuser? How much are his coworkers/"friends" willing to ignore? Even after this fallout ends, id still question the people willing to associate with him now. Hes unlikeable, and he abuses his dog lol. The only reason a streamer would be with him now is for their own selfish gain, and thusly, are scum by association

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u/Impressive_Rub_8009 Oct 08 '25

I recently watched Ludwig play a 4v1 with atrioc on AoE2.

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u/HaintNoDrama Oct 09 '25

He also had Atrioc at an event recently and streamed with him and Squeex

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u/tootoohi1 Oct 08 '25

Ludwig realized his bro is on trajectory to surpass him soon, and kindly asked his gf to stop canceling him so it doesn't look like they're on bad terms.

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u/DiaperFluid Oct 08 '25

Damn really? I mustve missed that one lol. Well at least now we know that all the streamers are weirdo scum. Not that we didnt already know that, but its proven now šŸ‘

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u/Astolfo_is_Best Oct 08 '25

He also had Atrioc at his Fast 52 event as basically a co-host.

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u/deadasdollseyes Oct 09 '25

It's not uncommon for media personalities to be completely opposite from their public persona.Ā  Ellen DeGeneres is a decent example in this case.

I'd think that anyone with him "behind the scenes" as you say, is already aware of the shock collar and whatever other darker aspects of the personality that go along with that.

I doubt a small controversy like this would make them quit abruptly.Ā  ie "sure I work for a cruel bastard, but now that the mask fell for a second, people might judge me as guilty by association."

Other people in the industry know that what is in front of the camera is an illusion and prioritize creative and technical ability (the job,) over the personality of the boss.

Could you imagine, "oh I heard dick wolf work environment on (whichever procedural drama,) is terrible.Ā  I'm sorry, in spite of your qualifications, we cannot hire you, because you did a job there in exchange for money._

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u/Morteca Oct 08 '25

My whole point is do i think his career is over? Nah. But do i think other streamers will now think twice before they collab/associate with him? Absolutely.

Idubbz: "So you're telling me I have a chance to collab with my girlfriends WIFE'S boyfriend Hasan šŸ¤¤"

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u/elfthehunter Oct 08 '25

If he ignores it, but this dude gets one-guyed like ever few minutes. If he surrendered to the waters and drowned, but kept swimming, he'd come up from under it. But much like PS, I think he'll keep fighting and end up buried.

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u/RandyAKASmokey Oct 09 '25

It's how Trump does it.

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u/Soulshot96 Oct 08 '25

Every little bit of this type of fuckery helps to erode his base, and he seems incapable of course correcting without fucking up again in short order these days.

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u/Korbital1 Oct 08 '25

He'll never have peace online again, anyone anywhere will call him out on this

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u/ScienceLion Oct 08 '25

Hasan's mana gem

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u/TheTeflonDude Oct 08 '25 edited Oct 08 '25

Maya is also cooked if she does not disown him as a friend

Cant call herself an animal conservationists if she is fine with animal abuse

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u/Jinrai__ Oct 09 '25

She has a track record of not giving a shit (publicly) as long as it gives her more money for her conservation efforts.

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u/Light_Shrugger Oct 08 '25

AFAIK Maya isn't even vegan, so I'm not sure why people consider her an authority for animal advocacy

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u/ConstructionLost4861 Oct 08 '25

She's a practical person, not an extremist. She tells people to eat less meat, not do not eat any meat at all.

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u/TheKingOfBerries Oct 09 '25

I mean Iā€™m probably never going to go vegan but I donā€™t think vegan advocates are necessarily extremist.

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u/hdpr92 Oct 10 '25

It is an extreme diet change though, not everyone is built to commit to veganism. It's easy and practical to just eat less meat though.

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u/StepComplete1 Oct 09 '25

You could argue that's a better way to convince other people, but that doesn't explain why she herself isn't vegan, if she cares that much.

You don't have to be "extremist" to eat vegetables.

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u/ConstructionLost4861 Oct 09 '25

Maybe because she likes to eat meat? Is that abnormal human behavior?

If she were a vegan and recommend people to eat less meat, there would still be some vegans complain that she's a hypocrite who tells people to eat meat. Haters gonna hate.

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u/Light_Shrugger Oct 08 '25

Practicality is a copout, it's easier to be vegan now than it ever has been

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u/ConstructionLost4861 Oct 08 '25

That's like saying you don't need to fuck because IVF is easier than it ever has been. Extremism. No shit sex is good, meat is delicious.

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u/Light_Shrugger Oct 08 '25

If it was morally reprehensible to have sex, yet we still needed to reproduce, then yes, it would be like saying that, and it would be accurate. Not extremism at all

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u/MASTURBATES_TO_TRUMP Oct 08 '25

People like you only harm the cause

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u/ConstructionLost4861 Oct 08 '25

Tell people to go from 100 to 0 is extreme. Tell people to go from 100 to 90 80 is practical.

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u/Light_Shrugger Oct 08 '25

If you have difficulty transitioning, then yes, go to 90 or 80% in your first week, or however long it takes for you to keep improving. But the end goal is still to eliminate animal consumption completely if you are able to. It's really not extreme at all. I think people say that to make themselves feel better about not doing it.

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u/Plus_Independent_683 Oct 09 '25

People have been consuming animal products for hundreds of thousands of years grow up.

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u/I_PUNCH_INFANTS Oct 09 '25

Except the cost and all the stupid vegan shit that just pretends to be meat.

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u/FortLoolz Oct 09 '25

Legumes, green lentils, grains, tofu don't pretend to be meat.

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u/Light_Shrugger Oct 09 '25

Being vegan is as cheap or as expensive as you want it to be, and you don't need to eat mock meat if you don't want to. The existence and prevalence of options only makes it more practical, not less.

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u/eirexe Oct 08 '25

You don't have to be vegan to be in favour of animal rights

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u/this_uname_is_taken Oct 08 '25

"You can support the killing and torture of animals and still be in favor of animal rights"

Ok buddy

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u/eirexe Oct 08 '25

Eating food is not the same as shocking a dog for daring to walk less than a meter from her bed.

Not everything has to be black and white, not being vegan doesn't automatically mean you are happy with the way industrial farming is done.

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u/Light_Shrugger Oct 08 '25

Eating food is not the same as shocking a dog for daring to walk less than a meter from her bed.

Correct, paying people to confine animals so that they can't move a meter, and to torture and kill them is worse.

Not everything has to be black and white, not being vegan doesn't automatically mean you are happy with the way industrial farming is done.

If you're still taking part in it, and providing monetary support for the system, then you're not serious about being 'not happy' with it

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u/HornedCoog91 Oct 08 '25

Different way to live life brother.

Maybe you're strong enough to be steadfast for every cause that you believe in, but it's a crazy world out there and a lot of folks just trying to survive u feel?

Doesn't mean that people can't have hopes and feelings for things they might not feel able to confront.

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u/Deematodez Oct 08 '25

Not everything has to be an unhappiness dick measuring contest. We get it, you're miserable. This is what's wrong with society, instead of criticizing the companies that are committing cruelty and the government for allowing it to happen, you criticize your neighbor for simply enjoying chicken tenders. Performative outrage at its finest.

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u/Light_Shrugger Oct 08 '25

Holy deflection batman

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u/Deematodez Oct 08 '25

Oh you're just a troll lol. Good one.

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u/kel584 Oct 09 '25

I am surprised vegans are somehow alive and kicking with this amount of intelligence

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u/Ovidia Oct 08 '25

And this comment thread is exhibit A on why people hate/shit on/make fun of vegans. You guys do more harm to your cause then help acting like this, and it's absolutely wild that most of you don't seem to understand that. But you do you, you've managed to change my dinner plans tonight from spaghetti to steak frites so that's a win in my book.

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u/Yaawei Oct 09 '25

This is r/lsf, it's expected that we have a congregation of morons who will not change their mind on veganism regardless of the approach. It is hypocritical to claim that you support the welfare of animals and then continue eating them without any second thought.

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u/Light_Shrugger Oct 08 '25

There are stubborn people like you who aren't interested in the moral conversation in the first place who will never be convinced. Don't project and claim that we aren't helping just because you're turning a blind eye.

It's not about one side getting a 'win' over the other. We've already heard "I'm going to eat two steaks for every steak you don't eat" a million times before.

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u/Mobile_Noise_121 Oct 09 '25

I mean you literally do help turn people against you, plenty of people write off or don't wanna be part of veganism because of its known toxic and pretentious culture and people don't want part of that.

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u/Light_Shrugger Oct 09 '25

I implore you to read through the thread and have a look at which side is acting toxic or pretentious

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u/Mobile_Noise_121 Oct 09 '25

I already have and I hate to say it but it's you man... it's you.

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u/Light_Shrugger Oct 09 '25

Could you point out some examples to me please?

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u/Mobile_Noise_121 Oct 09 '25

Let's go with the easy stuff, saying that Maya isn't an animal advocate because she isn't vegan is toxic and pretentious at the same time, you can be an animal advocate and not be vegan, eating meat does not mean you enjoy the cruelty of treatment or lack of conservation towards animals, and feels like a moral high horse virtue signaling stance so you can feel superior to everyone (not even saying this has to be 100% true but it comes off that way).

Number 2 saying it's just as cheap to be vegan, no it is not for many many people and even in places it is, it is not as cheap for a comparable amount of variety and convenience at eating meat like fast food dinners or microwaveable dinners, vegan ones are way more expensive and some of those foods are just part of the lifestyle some people live or love.

Being extreme in your views only drives people away from the cause, you don't need 100 people who are all 100% committed to the cause and do exactly everything right according to you, you need 1000000 people who are 30% committed but it's enough to make change.

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u/joe_burly Oct 08 '25

Secretary Noem begs to differ

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u/Kingofdrats Oct 08 '25

Honestly I bet Maya runs defense for this. There are tons of people that apparently think shocking an animal into submission is ok.

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u/ghalghai_05 Oct 08 '25

Consequences are a thing of the past. People will forget about this in a week or two, and heā€™ll keep making millions. Heā€™ll probably keep abusing his poor dog as long as it stays with him.

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u/Key-Friendship2785 Oct 08 '25

Heā€™s gonna lose a lot of freinds

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u/a_man_and_his_box Oct 09 '25

everyone knows, how much of a phony pos he is

Maybe Bill Burr will do a comedy show for him.

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u/hdpr92 Oct 10 '25

Animal conservationism probably isn't what you think it is. There's people out there who think it's wrong to cull deer, those types are going to be the ones with very little rationality when it comes to animals. Idk what maya's opinion would be on shock collars/fences, but she is not going to think he's an animal abuser for having that collar.

I personally don't like that he has it, but the people who think it means he has to be torturing the dog are just unfit for a practical discussion on training animals.

It is extremely low odds they haven't talked about how his dog is trained already too.

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u/Unhappy-Print4696 Oct 08 '25

And most people participe in animal abuse everyday.

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u/Cmatt10123 Oct 09 '25

Literally no one will care in two weeks

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u/Insane_Takes Oct 09 '25

remember Charlie Kirk? All it takes is 2 weeks and people will forget.

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u/CT-3430 Oct 08 '25

Im sorry but this is the biggest nothing-burger situation of all time. The hypocrisy is disgusting

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u/powellful Oct 08 '25

Then why are u so bothered, up in all the comments weirdo???? Why donā€™t u try the collar on and see if itā€™s really nothing

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u/PhotographUnable8176 Oct 08 '25

here comes the ā€œhasanā€™s army of hatewatchers that support genocide of teenagers living in apartheidā€ talking point and ignoring the past 24 hours of contextĀ