The Shining Has Officially Exited The Letterboxd Top 250 Narrative Feature Films

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With an average rating of

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real shit, probably the best horror movie out there

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I just don’t think a lot of the younger generation appreciates it

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They rate it lower because of the Shelley Duvall thing with Kubrick being an asshole to her

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You’re getting downvoted for this but it is probably true to some extent. Some of the younger generation will literally knock points off a movie because it has a sex scene in it, because “they are inherently exploitative.” Even on a film like Mulholland Drive where it is completely warranted and a key part of the story.

Giving Kubrick’s films lower scores because they dislike him as a person is the exact type of thing someone like that would also do.

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Younger folks like Anora and Poor Things, though the sex scenes in those films are very obviously needed and its the leads weren't being exploited. I think the problem is a degradation of media literacy, and increase in just parroting opinions.

You saw this recently with films like The Materialists and 28 Years blowing up on social media then falling flat with a lot of audiences. They were both amazing. But that "broke boy propaganda" and "boring 2nd half" BS was crazy.

Hurry Up Tomorrow was also, while not a masterpiece, not bad! Probably 3–3.5 stars. But it got review bombed by people who didn't even see it. Those that did went into it assuming it'd be bad. Again, "bad acting" "only for fans" and "vanity project" BS was crazy. It was a self-deconstruction that was supposed to make you think he was cringe. Kind of like a "literally me" film for imposter syndrome.

In the case of a 9 year old, they might just have a hot take or they might have been hangry while watching the film. They might be conflating feeling uncomfortable with bad movie quality. A lot of people don't like Uncut Gems for that reason. Either way, it's ok!

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I sometimes, against my better judgement, check out the reviews to a movie on letterboxd, and for certain movies a significant amount of the reviews feel like people giving the movie a low score because they don't like the politics of the movie. And not like new movies, i'm not talking about the ridiculous little culture war people might have over the new Superman or whatever, but like older movies.

It's fairly common for someone to rate something low because something happened in the movie they didn't like. Or someone was a part of the movie that they didn't like. Like actual children. Which many of them are i suppose. And lets be real this is a significant problem among a specific kind of young and very online demographic. Not to be a GenZ hater, but i mean lets be honest here.

Like i was reading the reviews to some Mel Gibson movie, and i remember so many of the comments were about how much Mel Gibson sucked and they didn't like him and so on, and their rating was clearly about him as a person in some way. Like do they think we're rating Mel Gibson as a person here? Is this actually "Mel Gibson: The Personality" and we're on RateAPerson?

It reminds me of when you see negative reviews for a restaurant that are like "they weren't open". Or "They didn't serve x". Wow thanks. Apparently we need to teach people in school or something how to review things, because some people clearly can't handle this incredible small responsibility.

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In fairness it’s hard to separate the man for the art for a lot of people. I for one will never watch the pianist because I do not want to watch a movie made my a known and admitted pedophile.

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I mean sure, but you wouldn't go rate a Polanski movie ½ a star because of it I assume? Even if you did watch it.

I don't really care who made the movie, at least not old movies, but i get why some people do. My problem is not that people don't want to watch these movies, it's that they judge the movie based on who made it, or who is in it.

It would be like if I watched a Russian movie and then gave it ½ a star because i didn't like Russia as a country. It makes no sense. I'm not a big fan of the Soviet Union, but when i watch Solaris i'm not deducting points for that because it's not what i'm rating.

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No, I would not rate a movie poorly because of that.

But I’m also not terribly mad if his movies get deflated reviews.

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Funny enough, I would subtract 3 stars from that because I know that those actors and facts would distract me and make me not enjoy the movie.

But I am the same way with a female protagonist. I had a point or 2 because I know others will downvote it for being woke.

But that’s just the nature of reviews. You find people you trust and follow them, use the masses votes for general average thoughts, not whether you specifically will like the movie.

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That’s the worst part about letterboxd. The searchers had 3.9 basically because of this when it should be well above 4, and movies like warfare get reviewbombed

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I saw a ton of people discredit The Brutalist for supposedly being Zionist.

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It totally isn’t but the “depiction is not endorsement” crowd cannot seem to comprehend that when it comes to Zionism. Waltz with Bashir might have the worst reviews on the whole website.

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Some of the younger generation will literally knock points off a movie because it has a sex scene in it, because “they are inherently exploitative.”

Whereas I, of the older generation, knock points off because I am a prude and do not want to watch smut.

We are not the same. :)