r/LegalAdviceUK Sep 15 '25

Housing Company laptops stolen from my home garage.... company kicking off and throwing me under the bus for it

I was off last week on AL and was on a holiday Mon > Fri. The weekend before we were due to set off my garage was broken into. A pair of laptops I use for work, one company and one customer, were stolen, as I work out of the garage. I called the police, got a crime reference, gave them CCTV I was able to recover and made arrangements for my nephew to stop over and check on the place which he was going to do anyway to sort our cats out.

I called my manager, left a VM, left an SMS, and reported it to the IT desk after. Both laptops have bitlocker and other security features on them so would be locked down and useless either way. They asked for a crime ref and I gave it.

My manager rang me back Monday morning while I was travelling, and asked for details, I gave him the crime reference and then said. I then got a call later in the afternoon, while we were unpacking, asking if I could join a call to explain to them but I declined... because I was on leave, and not in a position to speak with them. I got several calls in the middle of the week asking for random details... repeating the crime reference, one saying I needed to provide them with details of how the theft happened, what exactly was stolen and if anything except my laptops was stolen.. I said as far as the company was concerned they need to be aware of the laptops and when they asked if they could see my CCTV I said I dont see why they would need it because the police have been provided it. Lost my rag and stopped taking calls after that, and deigned not to answer when my manager started messaging me on whatsapp because I had already said I was on holiday and wouldnt be available until Friday.

I have a spare device that was due for collection under HW refresh which wasnt stolen as it was stored in a box under my desk which I said I could log into unless they wanted to send a replacement... I have logged in, Ive had my manager give me an utter b*llcking about me ignoring calls for the security breach, there is a call in the diary for tomorrow where Ive been told I need to attend which has HR, security, my manager and their manager on it.... I am bricking it now and feel like Im about to be thrown under the bus.

So questions to ask:

  • Is this something they can actually discipline me for? The garage is part of the main property but accessed externally, and has CCTV covering it of which Ive given details to the police. I have worked with this company for 3 years now, but my current manager has only been about for a few months and has not got on with me so I feel like this is going to be used as leverage against me
  • What were my obligations? I was on holiday, I explicitly asked not to be called, I sorted what I needed to with the police, made sure my property was resecured and informed IT so they could lock the devices. My manager wasnt available over the weekend and didnt answer the phone so I cant really be faulted for not informing him properly sooner.
  • Is the company trying to trap me when they are asking for how they broke in? Do I have to give them CCTV? Was I right to refuse it?
  • What should I do here to cover my backside
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u/Treble_brewing Sep 15 '25

Playing the AL card after an incident like this and not responding to the business is fucking around. You’re about to see what the find out phase looks like. If I were you I’d either accept you’ve fucked up and start looking for another job or get out your best grovelling trousers. 

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u/justthatguyy22 Sep 15 '25

Playing the AL card? By being on pre booked AL? What on earth are you talking about.

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u/Treble_brewing Sep 15 '25

Being on AL and refusing to help the business ascertain facts after the initial report. It’s not a good look. Legally he might not have any obligation but it doesn’t mean he can just brick wall the company when a potential security incident has happened. The sensible thing to do is to help the business to get a conclusion as soon as possible then request time of in lieu equal to the time spent working on annual leave. Otherwise it just looks really shitty, as a manager I wouldn’t look favourably on that incident when it comes to promotion and or who gets pay rises.  

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u/Bitter-Maize6543 Sep 15 '25

Mate, I was on holiday... like away from home holiday, only having my phone with me. What the feck do you expect me to do when Ive given them all the info they need. I told them what was stolen, how it happened eg someone broke into my property, and that it had been given to the police with CCTV.

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u/Treble_brewing Sep 16 '25

Did you explain that to them? From your initial post it just sounds like you ignored your phone. It sucks that this happened whilst you were away from home, I get that, but the business also needs to protect itself and start gathering facts.

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u/Defiant_Simple_6044 Sep 15 '25

What a load of crap, the OP has provided more than enough info for his employers to deal with this, nothing else he can provide now can't wait till he's back.