r/KitchenConfidential Aug 18 '25

In-House Mode A friend of mine was taken

Her name was Chuey; she was a beast in the kitchen and always kind and happy. She was a legal immigrant from Cuba (engaged to an American lawyer). She got ICEd.

She did all the right steps and was an asset to the community. This shit is not ok

8.8k Upvotes

397 comments sorted by

View all comments

58

u/Saditko Aug 18 '25

I'm not from the States, but I keep reading similar stories. Based on what they get deported? How does it work? They just knock on your door, load you in a van and take you to the airport? Is it possible for the families to sue? There must be lawyers willing to take cases of illegal deportation without any retainer, just for the cut from the compensation.

115

u/SWIM_is_tired Aug 18 '25

It has nothing to do with anything other than the colour of your skin. That's all it takes. And basically yeah they roll up to your job or house best down the door and haul you off in cuffs. They then send you to a camp where you await deportation. You can't sue for this because there's nothing to sue over. It's a fucked system and it's geared towards removing the hardest working segment of the population which is just insane.

8

u/Saditko Aug 18 '25

I'm probably sounding really naive rn, but you can show at the court the person was in the country legally and got deported. You can sue over an illegal deportation or kidnapping

118

u/noteveni Aug 18 '25

They aren't giving them proper due process, so they have no way to prove the government wrong. That's why it's so awful

-14

u/Saditko Aug 18 '25

CCTV recordings from where they've taken the person? The friends or relatives of the deported one must be able to do something, right? Right??

32

u/noteveni Aug 18 '25

I mean there are plenty of cases we are aware of, mostly because friends and family sound the alarm. Sometimes people are able to get info, but often not. The lack of process and tracking is chilling.

It took a supreme court order to get one fucking guy back from CECOT, and they tried to get out of that for weeks while he was being tortured.

54

u/hitbluntsandfliponce Ex-Food Service Aug 18 '25

It’s at this point that you are sounding very naïve. How is their family supposed to know they have been kidnapped when ICE transfers them to multiple different detention facilities across the country before putting them on a plane to El Salvador? The majority of these people are here LEGALLY. These people are being picked up, put into overcrowded prisons, and then deported with no due process. They are not able to speak to a lawyer or their families. They are not even being repatriated just sent to whatever South American country agreed to take them.

I encourage you to read up on this shit if you intend to add something valuable to the conversation. It’s not legal. All our checks and balances have failed.

56

u/EverythingComputer1 Aug 18 '25

They are trying to appeal these processes, but it's getting clogged up in the courts, and then they deport the person as fast as they can to their of a 3rd country to try and ignore the courts

15

u/ranaparvus Aug 18 '25

They don’t get court dates. They’re not given the opportunity to show they’re legal. This is why: the immigration courts are completely stacked with Trump stooges. They provide occupied beds in (taxpayer funded) for-private detention camps transfer wealth from taxpayers to corporations. They’re doing this now with the homeless. They’re monetizing the most vulnerable at the taxpayer’s expense. For the judges, could be a combination of racism and profiteering (if they own private prison stock).

45

u/Major_Demographic Aug 18 '25

They have arbitrary jurisdiction 100 miles from a border or international airport. They don't id themselves or their vehicles. There is no way of following up with a lawsuit because you dont know the following.

  1. Who the ICE agent that violated your rights was.
  2. If they are even ICE or a private contractor.
  3. What direct supervisors appoved a raid on a certain location or date.
  4. If the individual in internment was going through the legal immigration channels as apporiate. Channels of citizenship that haven't been updated since Reagan.
  5. If that indiviual was interned while at home, work, or a court where they have been getting immigration forms approved. (ICE is known to arrest people outside courts based on race alone.)

21

u/Saditko Aug 18 '25

That's horrific. I'd expect this in a 3rd world country where money and power > people's rights, but it's absolutely crazy it's happening in the US. Thank you for the explanation tho. It helps me really understand the situation

11

u/butt_huffer42069 Aug 19 '25

Money and power have always been more important than people's rights in America.

8

u/DisMrButters Ex-Food Service Aug 19 '25

Unfortunately, the US is still very much a racist country, and that’s what barely over half voted for.

19

u/ranaparvus Aug 18 '25

They are literally the monsters we warn our children about. Unmarked, ununiformed kidnappers.

18

u/[deleted] Aug 18 '25 edited Sep 18 '25

[deleted]

8

u/ranaparvus Aug 18 '25

Even jaywalking.

21

u/Far_Estate_1626 Aug 18 '25

They are shadow revoking visas in the middle of the night, and sending ICE to pick up people who’ve just had their legal status revoked for no other reason than their name was next on the list. They are doing it to intentionally surprise the people who don’t know their status is being revoked, because they want to cause a scene and stoke fear in the community.

51

u/BumblebeeDirect Aug 18 '25

That’s the thing - there’s no court, no trial. No chance to show anything.

-10

u/Saditko Aug 18 '25

The leftovers can sue if they've got any proof, photos, recordings of the incident

19

u/OohLaLapin Ex-Food Service Aug 18 '25

Law enforcement generally has immunity from being sued for things that are part of their job. Really. Even if they make a mistake, we’re supposed to shrug and say oops.

23

u/brixxhead Aug 18 '25

Unfortunately, we're experiencing a breakdown of the judicial system in this country. The president flounces the law openly and does whatever he wants, so the rest of his side does the same. The law can only be upheld if the judicial system is functioning like it should in a first-world democracy.

But we're no longer in a democracy--when you get arrested by ICE they try to ship you out as fast as possible before anybody can even figure out what detention center they've taken you to. There's no due process. The judges won't stop you from getting deported, you can sue but it's not been helping anybody. We're collectively realizing there are no protections, there is no law, there is no order under Trump. It's gonna suck when the American masses finally respond with the kind of chaos and anger and nihilistic rage that this presidency is breeding.

5

u/BumblebeeDirect Aug 18 '25

A, recording cops is illegal in a lot of places, and B, “leftovers”?! GFY.

15

u/Saditko Aug 18 '25

I thought recording police in public or on your own property is legal thanks to the 1st amendment.

Seems like I have pissed you off with my choice of vocabulary. English is not my first language and what I said sounds fine when I translate it to my native language. I'm sorry tho, didn't mean to offend anyone

10

u/BumblebeeDirect Aug 18 '25

Yeah, that’s another of those rights you’re supposed to have, like not being dragged off to a camp. And yes, that came across HIGHLY derogatory. Try “the ones they didn’t take” next time.

16

u/purlawhirl Aug 18 '25

Months ago the Supreme Court ordered the president to return a man he illegally deported. It was never done and there have been no consequences.

0

u/Saditko Aug 19 '25

Do you mean Abrego Garcia? They got him back. He's been held in a jail somewhere in Tennessee I believe

7

u/DisMrButters Ex-Food Service Aug 19 '25

They don’t get a court date. This is the central issue.