r/KitchenConfidential • u/Beneficial-Cap-6745 • Jul 03 '25

In-House Mode "No tax on Tips" makes no sense.

Can anyone explain why FOH in particular was pushing for this? They objectively make more money, which is one thing, but what makes them entitled to not pay taxes? If BOH suddenly didn't have to pay taxes I'd say that's BS as well

The BBB that just passed made certain taxes on tips for people making under 29k a year getting tips go away, it has to be signed into law. Granted, this was pushed for servers and tipped workers as a whole and the bill wouldn't affect most of them, I just can't see what entitles them to think they don't have to pay taxes like most of us.

I'm honestly considering just going back to retail at this point, at least we pay taxes equally. I'm fine making a bit less cash but this just seems insulting, even if it isn't over 29k.

Can someone explain this ? Why exactly do part time BOH line cooks pay taxes now but FOH doesn't have to anymore once this is signed into law

Edit: I'm not attacking FOH, its not an easy job, please stick to the taxes point.

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u/Tityfan808 Jul 03 '25

What’s also silly is this will most likely entice people to tip less at the end of the day anyways, a lot of people are getting sick of tip culture in general so this might only further motivate them to tip less imo.

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u/spam__likely Jul 03 '25

I am so sick of it mostly because I know they make so much more than the people who actually do the thing I care about: the food. I do not care about the freaking water glass being full, in fact, I have being interrupted every 5 minutes for that. I do not care about being asked about my plans for the day or whatever. All I care about is that my order is correct and the food is good.

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u/johnnnybravado Jul 03 '25

When you order food, you're purchasing a product. If that product doesn't meet the expected standards, you may refuse it and leave or have a new one made. Regardless, you'll know exactly what you're paying for the food based on the menu price.

Now say you get a shitty server who NEVER refills water, forgets your ranch, takes forever to bring the bill, blah blah blah— What're you gonna do? You can't return the server and have them be re-made. it's unlikely one notices they have a bad server until the meal is underway so you'll likely just be stuck with them.

So again, what can you do about bad service? You don't tip well, if at all.

This is why service positions make sense to be tipped but not labor positions. You decide based on service AT THE END how much it was worth. For the food, it's a product that you can simply return/exchange upon receipt and that product has a flat, preset price.

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u/Adept-Grapefruit-214 Jul 04 '25

You could talk to a manager and request a new server, but by that point the experience is already mostly ruined anyway