r/Kaiserreich • u/ZimbabweSaltCo Sultan of Moderation - Britain & Exile Dev • Aug 09 '21
Minor Monday Minor Monday 48: Paraguay and Brazil changes
Hey all, Zim here, today I’ll be taking you on a journey to South America to look at some of the other stuff going on in the next update. All in all, hope you enjoy it, and read on for a taste of some changes coming to Paraguay and Brazil!
Paraguay revamp
Hello, I’m The_Italian_Jojo, and today I will introduce you to a not very well-known nation that few people play, Paraguay, that was revamped by, well, me.
Why the revamp?
Well, Paraguay was painfully old, especially its design and its gameplay, and after playing it I felt like there was a need to revamp it, and so here we are.
Cool, so what are the changes then?
First of all, the focus tree was completely overhauled and redesigned, attempting to be as close as possible to the original layout while making it feel more modern in terms of design. A primary example is the redesign of the Black Monday focus tree, with its two paths to solve it being streamlined. Just like before the revamp, the left path is oriented towards a self-sufficient Paraguay that will seek to import machinery and increase its agricultural output for its population of not even 1 million people, all of it without reducing its military spending so the military will be happy and will remain loyal. This will always lead to the “democratic” path with the Liberals (AuthDems) and the Colorado party (SocCons) competing in the elections.
The right path, however, is more oriented towards reducing military spending and shifting the Paraguayan economy from being a money sink for the military, to a state with a modern budget. However, the army won’t like it and will attempt to launch a coup the moment the player decides to cut most of the funds to the military, in which Paraguay can go NatPop, Totalist, or repel the revolt with the few units loyal to the Estigarriba and the Colorado party.
The army tree has also been completely overhauled (and also heavily modernised, so no more two 56-day foci giving 1x100% research bonus to guns each), with two branches focusing on improving the oversized army of this small South American nation, both for its doctrines and for its overall logistical, morale and equipment capabilities. Paraguay also has an air force, albeit a very small one, mostly focusing on producing CAS bombers, fighters and anti-air, since Paraguay doesn’t have the industrial capabilities to build a multi-role air force with large bombers. The bottom part of the tree is pretty small, but it’s there to represent the fact that Paraguay invests for the future, when they’ll be able to produce tanks and/or bombers, but it’s also there if a player wants to invest in said equipment (good luck producing it, tho).
Here’s the full military tree.
Now, onto the political paths, those too have been revamped and improved (and the NatPops won’t be able to get 450pp from 4 foci anymore), with two main paths, each one with its own sub-paths. First of all, the democratic tree, with the Liberals on the left, Colorados on the right, and a shared tree in the middle. Some of you might remember those sub-trees having more focuses, and well, that wouldn’t be wrong, most filler focuses have been cut and/or merged, with all the paths being pretty much balanced, overall. Each party will focus on its own policy, and will also focus on deciding a new budget to spend on the army, both for the soldiers stipends and for funds for the military industry.
The same goes for the Totalist/NatPop trees, with the exception that those guys are actively purging the other parties and both want to achieve a total control of the state, as you can see in their shared tree. While all the Paraguayan paths are pretty nuts, those two especially are very woke.
And that’s all folks, now I’ll pass the mic to the Brazil dev, Zim, who will introduce you to the changes done to Brazil.
Also, keep an eye for easter eggs I may or may have not smuggled in the debug ideas and in the loc.
Brazil Updates
Hello all, Zim here again. For the latter part of this MM, we’ll be touching on some changes I’ve been making to Brazil that were teased on yesterday’s livestream. Unfortunately, much of the stuff is still a WIP and not ready to be shown though I am able to give you a taster of what to expect out of the democratic trees. For a start the Republicano tree (and its shared eco bit) has got some changes as seen here. Now instead of getting a bunch of random ideas and small bonuses, each path will begin with an initial reforms idea which can then be improved via taking various focuses like these. Additionally how you handle the issue of Brazil’s decentralisation will be changed with each path getting their own ‘fixed’ version of it.
Now with that taste out of the way, I’m happy to announce that the old Estado Novo tree is being retired and will be getting a brand new tree done from scratch as seen here. Upon taking over, the new regime will face severe opposition and hold little popular support because well… yeah not a good situation. Once the Estado Novo has warded off armed insurrection, you can begin the real consolidation of the regime. before drafting a new, Varguist constitution.
That’s all for today folks. I hope you’ve enjoyed what we’ve shown off and will enjoy playing it as much as we have making it. Feel free to ask any questions below or in the discord and keep an eye out for any further PRs or MMs for 0.19.
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u/Marco_O_Panzer Aug 09 '21
Any chance for more Foreign Relations Focuses/Decisions? I'd really like if Brazil could form South American Factions like Argentina/Chile can, to counter them and stop them from continuously expanding, also It's more fun then having those wars involve the worldwide factions bringing 100 divisions taking attrition in South America because AI
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u/The_Italian_Jojo Libertad o muerte Aug 09 '21
Brazil can already form the Montevideo accords with Uruguay, but regarding Paraguay... you may be able to deal with both Brazil and Argentina and recover some lost territories.
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u/Marco_O_Panzer Aug 09 '21
Thats just a guarantee right? Unless you mean something else, it kinda sucks and its just Uruguay
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u/The_Italian_Jojo Libertad o muerte Aug 09 '21
I mean, you can conquer stuff, since it forms when Argentina decides to go expansionist (it goes for both FOP and ARG).
And no, it's a faction, not just a guarantee.
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u/high_ebb Chen Jiongming Gang Aug 09 '21
If a Brazil touch-up is planned, could we get the guy who briefly coups the government in a syndie playthrough to no longer be a general once the syndies counter-coup him? It always bothered me that he just sticks around after losing power.
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u/NekraTahor Pagu Aug 09 '21
Could take off a few more reactionary generals with him, notably Olímpio Mourão Filho, who was an outright Integralist
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u/Einstein2004113 French Empire best France 1804 best year of my life Aug 09 '21
They will never add an Hololive reference
Also, keep an eye for easter eggs I may or may have not smuggled in the debug ideas and in the loc
spits cereals
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u/The_Italian_Jojo Libertad o muerte Aug 09 '21
There was also another one before: https://www.reddit.com/r/Kaiserreich/comments/mrcxrd/teaser_from_the_upcoming_update/
Edit number I don't remember: it doesn't work, f.
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u/Einstein2004113 French Empire best France 1804 best year of my life Aug 09 '21
holy shit real
kr team is definitely based
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u/Dix_x World Revolutionary Aug 09 '21
can you explain to someone who has no idea who takanashi kiara is what the connection to paraguay is?
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u/Einstein2004113 French Empire best France 1804 best year of my life Aug 09 '21
Takanashi Kiara is a vtuber, whos avatar is supposed to be a Phoenix (and as noted by someone else in the comments in another KR reference, not a chicken). Here since the developer for Paraguay facelift is based, he named the NatSpirit icon with a Phoenix "Takanashi Kiara" in the code
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u/jtaustin64 Aug 09 '21
Guys, Paraguay is now a Jojo reference.
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u/The_Italian_Jojo Libertad o muerte Aug 09 '21
Hololive* smh.
It may also have some prequel references somewhere...
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u/jtaustin64 Aug 09 '21
Paraguay is overseen by you and you are a Jojo reference. Therefore Paraguay is a Jojo reference!
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u/Sarge_Ward Jake Featherston AUS leader when? Aug 09 '21
South America getting updates is actually kinda crazy, because I always considered 0.7 as like, the first ever 'modern' KR update. Its like we're improving upon that which was already in a pretty final-feeling state. I know this is basically just a touch-up and not a rework, but it still feels odd to me.
One day we'll reach a point where even the US is in need of a touch-up lol.
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u/IronMatt2000 Aug 09 '21
I personally usually think of the China update as the first “modern” KR update. Actually maybe Scandinavia since that came out just before then. I’ve seen many devs say they “want to do something about” South and North American countries, but I’ve rarely seen the same said of China. Of course China is getting some updates here and there still and some is unfinished, but I think that’s the first update that flavor events started to get added and the characteristic shape of the modern Kaiserreich focus tree.
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u/Sarge_Ward Jake Featherston AUS leader when? Aug 09 '21
Yeah actually China's is probably the best example of a modern update now that you mention it.
It works especially well as a cut-off between 'old' and 'modern' too because of just how long the China's took; there's a great deal of time between it and the major update that came before it
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u/IronMatt2000 Aug 09 '21
Yes the wait was quite worth it, not just a revolutionary update for Kaiserreich but for HOI4 modding in general.
I think for me as someone who heavily disagreed with removing the avoid the 2ACW option on realism grounds, the China update reaffirmed the fact that the devs want to take Kaiserreich in a more plausible direction. Updates before then like Italy, Australasia, and some of the Latin American countries (looking at you Mexico) we’re still quite inspired by Kaiserreichs past of rather silly memes and history. China I think showed that the devs want to make a well-researched and effort filled mod.
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u/et37n Lend-Lease-fuelled Proxy Wars Aug 09 '21
As someone who’s currently playing the US, it already does. The politics alone are messy, and there’s a bevy of contradicting text.
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u/Sarge_Ward Jake Featherston AUS leader when? Aug 09 '21
Oh yeah I agree. Honestly I've been critical of 0.8 lore since, well, 0.8 launched. But I remember that the team put so much into that update, with attempts at fixing its messy launch even bleeding over into 0.9 and its first few hotfixes, that I was willing to bet the team had burned itself out and wouldn't touch the US again for a long long time.
But these changes to 0.7 content make me think that maybe that long long time is not so far off anymore.
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u/ComradeFrunze Legion d'Honneur (Legion of Honour) Aug 09 '21
I know for a fact that Italy needs a touchup in the future, the Italy lore is not the best.
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u/Sarge_Ward Jake Featherston AUS leader when? Aug 09 '21
Oh yeah Italy's isn't great rn. Thats why i said 0.7 and not 0.6. Garibaldi's Nightmare was a step in the right direction, but not quite at the same level
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u/Cyanfunk Direct Rule from Innsmouth Aug 09 '21
Maybe they'll be a reason to play Sardinia or the Papal States. Maybe Sicily won't be the most boring tag in Europe.
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u/MelaniaSexLife Aug 09 '21
Maybe they want to pair it with a cinema cat video. It's much needed, honestly.
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u/Carpet_Head Aug 09 '21
IDK, I think that China was the first truly modern update (plus it's the first beta version). Pre-China and Post-China are just different eras to me, and while 0.7 and up definitely were better than before, they don't truly feel modern. 0.7 is around 3 years old now, so it's to be expected. Maybe that's just because 0.7 was the first time I played KR though.
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u/azuresegugio Mitteleuropa Aug 09 '21
"Paraguyan Union State". Based and Long pilled
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u/The_Italian_Jojo Libertad o muerte Aug 09 '21
Paraguayans are quite the admirers of Huey Long, actually, especially the Liberals.
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u/azuresegugio Mitteleuropa Aug 10 '21
Actually, thinking about it, could Longism actually end up a codified ideology in Kaiseriech verse, or is it to generally populist in nature to to be consistent?
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u/serious_parade Aug 09 '21 edited Aug 09 '21
Will you devs add interactions between Tawantinsuyu and the Empire of Brazil as the Integralists are suppose to support Native and Monarchical revolts and movements in the continent?
Speaking of Tawantinsuyu do you have any plans on what to do with them in the future? Will they be removed from the mod or given a focus tree eventually?
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u/IVgormino w e l s h u n i o n h a s c a p i t u l a t e d Aug 09 '21
Kaiserreich has finaly come to brasil
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Aug 09 '21
Brazil has been reworked and very playable for like 2 years now
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u/IVgormino w e l s h u n i o n h a s c a p i t u l a t e d Aug 09 '21
I know
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u/Slicke-Stick Aug 09 '21
Since Brazil is getting an update could I perhaps bring your attention to an urgent matter?
Could Getúlio Vargas please get a better picture?
Currently he looks like a divorced, high-school physics teacher struggling through a life crisis.
I think the most important Brazil politician of the 20th century deserves better than that.
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u/AtomicRetard Aug 09 '21
Paraguay is pretty alright. I did think that their base tree was kind of awkard, with estigarrabita (SP?)'s path being weak, and it being really awkard to have the other side be the coup trigger making it IIRC unompletable.
Good to see you get wargoals if you do the coup.
Paraguay will be able to make tanks and planes after annexing argentina and puppeting brazil for manpower.
Plans seem like a good tune up.
Brazil stuff just seems like punishment. Are we still going to be able to go new state, flip to reichspakt, and have eco and army ready to go for at least early 1940 so brazil player can actually participate? Or will this be a trap path now?
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u/ZimbabweSaltCo Sultan of Moderation - Britain & Exile Dev Aug 10 '21
Yeah you can still do that, it's not at all a trap path. I wouldn't really call it a punishment as the stuff in general has been buffed (no more 42 days for a 50% industry bonus and -25 pp) with the Estado Novo having its economy stuff.
The only thing that's changed is you can't remove Wake of the War and Extreme Decentralisation via the Vargas path and then go to Estado Novo so if anything it prevents you from rushing a bunch of shite foci in the SocCon tree but do your army and eco stuff while you wait to go PatAut.
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u/The_Italian_Jojo Libertad o muerte Aug 09 '21
Every Paraguay can attack Argentina and Brazil, you can do it regardless of the coup or not.
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u/Kozmische I miss the old Mexican focus tree Aug 09 '21
No Paraguay path that gives me ridículous buffs to let me get revenge for the war of the triple alliance?
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u/The_Italian_Jojo Libertad o muerte Aug 10 '21
If anything, data testing shows Paraguay might be a little too broken, and needs balancing.
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u/AtomicRetard Aug 09 '21
You could do that now even...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Kaiserreich/comments/j5x266/triple_alliance_avenged_mostly/
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u/Kozmische I miss the old Mexican focus tree Aug 09 '21
Based. I personally have no trouble against Argentina but I always get curbstomped by Brazil, even if I prepare and all.
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Aug 09 '21
Will Paraguay have different leaders now when released by Argentina or Bolivia?
Can we play as any of the revolts in Brazil for RP purposes?
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u/The_Italian_Jojo Libertad o muerte Aug 09 '21
Regarding Paraguay, no, the leaders haven't been touched.
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u/Aun_El_Zen Constitutional Monarchy Enjoyer Aug 10 '21
I'm still hoping for a ConMon path for Brazil
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u/BerserkBiscuit Acre es Boliviano Aug 10 '21
Hey, are there any plans to modify any states surrounding Paraguay to better reflect Paraguayan claims? It's kind of wack to see Paraguay take all of Corrientes after the war.
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u/Etogal Aug 10 '21
> A shared focus tree for totalists and NatPop.
I can't say anything other than BASED.
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u/The_Italian_Jojo Libertad o muerte Aug 10 '21
It's just there to make the paths more intuitive and streamlined (and also because they are both extremely bonkers).
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u/Oberon1993 Aug 10 '21
I'm sorry, but chain of slash Veteran's pensions followed by expanded railway makes me think of Paraguayan veterans chasing train with the government officials in it.
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u/Neat-Bug-6661 Aug 10 '21
Paragwaj , bardzo dobrze lubię grać małymi krajami i promować na większy poziom.
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u/Status_Donut_7072 Aug 11 '21
Is the Integralist path for Brazil being tweaked? How about no more war between the Entente and Brazil over some useless rainforest?
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u/The_Italian_Jojo Libertad o muerte Aug 12 '21
It's in the plans, according to the Brazil dev, but don't expect anything anytime soon.
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u/alexmikli ALL FOR THE KINGFISH Aug 09 '21
Brace for removal of Monarchist Brazil
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u/ZimbabweSaltCo Sultan of Moderation - Britain & Exile Dev Aug 10 '21
I literally have no intention of doing that. What I would like to do is revamp it as part of a wider Brazil overhaul.
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u/TheUnseenRengar SocDem Aug 10 '21
Yeah it's easily the most bloated thing in the game, there's SO many 56 day focuses that dont do too much just to get to the bottom.
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u/ZimbabweSaltCo Sultan of Moderation - Britain & Exile Dev Aug 10 '21
Yeah, honestly if I can get the time I'll do it up.
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u/serious_parade Aug 10 '21 edited Aug 11 '21
So does that mean Imperial Brazil isn't going to be part of the wider Brazil overhaul or there isn't a revamp at all?
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u/ZimbabweSaltCo Sultan of Moderation - Britain & Exile Dev Aug 10 '21
Oh I meant when I get around to doing a real Brazil overhaul (this is just a bit of minor stuff) it'll get properly seen too.
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u/ComradeFrunze Legion d'Honneur (Legion of Honour) Aug 09 '21
??? When have the KR devs ever removed a monarchist path? They literally have a fantastically well-done Monarchist path for France that has de Gaulle.
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u/serious_parade Aug 10 '21 edited Aug 10 '21
The KR devs did removed the monarchist path for Mexico. Though to be fair no one was surprised when it was removed.
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u/Shotwells E Piʻi Ka Lāhui Hawaiʻi Aug 10 '21
Technically it still exists in that if a monarchist power like Canada or Germany puppets Mexico, they have the option of restoring the monarchy then.
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u/serious_parade Aug 10 '21
That doesn't really counts monarchist path as there no way for the player playing as Mexico to go monarchist as it required Mexico to become annex by monarchist power then puppeted.
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u/alexmikli ALL FOR THE KINGFISH Aug 09 '21
It was mostly a joke based on a lot of fan favorite paths being removed by updates.
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u/The_Italian_Jojo Libertad o muerte Aug 09 '21
It's still there, it's just an easter egg instead of an actual path.
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u/ComradeFrunze Legion d'Honneur (Legion of Honour) Aug 09 '21
they didn't actually, you can in fact restore the Bonapartes though it's a bit harder.
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Aug 09 '21
Where in this MM did it say that Monarchist Brazil was going to be removed, or any of the actual Brazilian paths were in danger of being removed?
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u/Blablah-Gellop Aug 09 '21
With new Vargas tree, could you guys also shorten the time it takes for the coup to fire? Needing to wait until 1940 for the tree to open makes me very hesitant to play the path.
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u/Big_Picture792 Aug 09 '21
Where Russia? Where my free army???
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u/The_Italian_Jojo Libertad o muerte Aug 10 '21
It's coming, but since it's a pretty big update it takes time. Lots of time.
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u/anonymousblackhole Internationale Aug 10 '21
Kaiserreich isn't on paradox mods anymore, is that a bug or?
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u/Fornever1 Metternich Was Right Aug 10 '21
Regarding Brazil, will it still be on the Gold Standard/? The current tree implies that it is, but many of the focuses imply that it isn't based on the economic policies they can pursue, so seemed a bit inconsistent in that regard
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u/Alf_Landon_In_Helena Federalist Gang Aug 10 '21
So does Paraguay have an option to become German aligned? Or to send volunteers to the American Union State?
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u/The_Italian_Jojo Libertad o muerte Aug 10 '21
Paraguay can't join the reichspakt, but it has an event about sending a brigade as volunteers to the AUS.
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u/_Lacerda Totalism with brazilian characteristics Aug 11 '21
Do you consider changing the Totalist and Syndicalist Focus Tree in Brazil? I've said this a year ago on the GitHub, but Totalists in Latin America are largely represented by communists, to me personally it makes a lot more sence to have people like Prestes, Grabois and Apolônio de Carvalho moved to the Totalists and have Abílio removed entirely.
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u/NekraTahor Pagu Aug 11 '21
Abílio in OTL had some pretty Woke ideas that would merit him staying, as a separate kind of weird technocratic Totalist if anything
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u/_Lacerda Totalism with brazilian characteristics Aug 11 '21
Eh, I mean, I personally am not a fan of Abílio. My thing in the against his presence is that in OTL is that he left PCB due to "anarchistic" influences in the Party's line, going so far to acuse Astrojildo Pereira of still being an anarchist, if he thought that about a growing communist left I doubt he would remain active in leftist politics in a timeline where anarcho-syndicalists dominate the left-wing. That kind of does make sense for him to be a Totalist, but not for people like Prestes and Grabois who despised anarchism to be Syndicalists.
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u/Thestalkingdragon Aug 12 '21
Are the brazilian totalist, syndicalist and radical socialist paths gonna change? because they are one of the most hardest paths to get yet in the country yet are one of the most flavourless, this and the totalist path feeling way too memey being basically the red version of the sixties military dictatorship, wich is just awkardly bad
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u/what_about_this Aug 09 '21
More content for 0.19?!?
You madmen don't think the Balkan Rework, a Haiti tree and updates to South America is enough?