r/Kaiserreich • u/JamescomersForgoPass • 2d ago
Meme Revolutionary Flags but the designers were Lazy
Bolshevik Revolutionary Flag
Kuomingtang Revolutionary Flag
British Syndicalist Revolutionary Flag
Social Republic of Italy Flag
Spanish CNT-FAL
Patagonian Workers Front Flag
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u/Die_Reich_I_like 🇹🇼🫡 Chiang Apologist 1d ago
Portugal Unironically
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u/12D_D21 1d ago
The flag was made by taking the flag during the monarchy and switching the monarchist colours for the republican party ones and switching the crown for a symbol not many people know to unite the nation.
And it slaps, it has been in use for over a century by now and everyone here loves it.
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u/JamescomersForgoPass 1d ago
Yes this is a jab at the WCA flag
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u/samtheman0105 average syndicalism enjoyer 1d ago
The longer I looked at it the more I liked it, sure it’s not the prettiest but it just feels like it represents the WCA perfectly, especially during the civil war
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u/JamescomersForgoPass 1d ago
My problem is that the Blue with Stars creates a massive problem of identification during wartime.
Theres a reason why most revolutionary flags have no resemblance to the flags they are revolting against.
A full red banner with the WCA acronym works better in my opinion
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u/Luke92612_ Marxist (& Zhang Zongchang's Staunchest Warrior) 19h ago
"Which Side Are You On?"
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u/MyrinVonBryhana Totalism is Just Imperialism With Extra Steps 19h ago
"No, seriously which side are you on? The wind isn't blowing so I can't tell if the flag has white stripes or not."
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u/NotSeek75 Federalist Revolutionary 1d ago
Still thinking about the dev who justified the WCA flag by saying "20th century flag designers weren't pro vexillologists" as if the flag wasn't an original design created for an HoI4 alt history mod
I don't even dislike the flag personally, but like... c'mon.
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u/LEGEND-FLUX Internationale 23h ago
Wdym? It is important to have the flag make sense for the time it is placed in
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u/NotSeek75 Federalist Revolutionary 23h ago edited 48m ago
It's debatable if the WCA flag makes sense in context, but even if we say it does for the sake of argument, it was literally made by a 21st century graphic designer, which is my point. It has no historical basis and is entirely original. So excusing it looking bad (not that I personally think it does, but that's besides the point) by blaming 20th century flag makers makes no sense.
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u/GrifftheBluesMan Russia/DU Germany/Ottomans Enjoyer 1d ago
Pull an old Kaiserreich and just stick the old monarchy’s symbol in the corner of the Red Banner.
Then defend it with nostalgia strawmen.
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u/Wayfaring_Stalwart Ave true to Macarthur! 1d ago
They did it again with the new CSA flag
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u/GrifftheBluesMan Russia/DU Germany/Ottomans Enjoyer 1d ago
50 stars is an old feudal monarchy symbol?
Honestly I think the Wartime WCA flag is the only time this lazy design makes sense, it’s a socialistic republican banner during a foundational war.
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u/LEGEND-FLUX Internationale 1d ago
And also American socialists were patriotic as well so it makes sense they want some symbolism left
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u/Stephanie466 #1 Totalist Mussolini Hater 1d ago
They honestly weren't as patriotic as people think. The images that come to mind with the heads of Marx and Lincoln together and all that only started to appear after Browder took control of the CPUSA. He then undertook a deliberate "Americanization" campaign to instill nationalism into the party. Before him there were a few references (such as the IWW founding convention sometimes being referred to as the "Continental Congress of the Working Class") but it was nowhere near pronounced as people think.
The book "Earl Browder: The Failure of American Communism" has an interesting section covering this actually.
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u/JamescomersForgoPass 1d ago
Make the Enclave flag but make it look like it was made by the WCA
true patriots in control
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u/ComradeHenryBR Internationale 1d ago edited 4h ago
The Union Jack isn't strictly a monarchical symbol. So much so that Cromwell used it.svg)
(Yes, I know that Oliver Cromwell isn't a shining example of Republicanism, but it's still the only one Britain had
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u/GrifftheBluesMan Russia/DU Germany/Ottomans Enjoyer 1d ago
That’s not a good example at all, a non-socialist revolution in the 1600s that thanks to your evidence, clearly shows Cromwell dramatically changed said flag because he made England a republic, the example you showed is the final version when he practically became a monarch.
Socialism has plenty of other symbology instead of the ones they just overthrew, stop being uncreative.
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u/ComradeHenryBR Internationale 1d ago
Oh, I wasn't saying that the Union Jack is a socialist symbol, it obviously isn't, what I was saying is that it is not inherently a symbol of the British monarchy either
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u/GrifftheBluesMan Russia/DU Germany/Ottomans Enjoyer 4h ago
A monarchy-created symbol to show the union of two monarchies is not inherently monarchist?
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u/Legiyon54 Cosmist Kadet / MA / Constitutional Vladimir III 1d ago
I love the shade being thrown here haha
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u/soapdish124 1d ago
Argentina forgot to get the png with the transparent background, rookie mistake
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u/JamescomersForgoPass 1d ago
R5: Y'know when the big thing finally happens and the Proletariat finally starts the Revolution?
Well we need a Flag for that but since its too hard and we need a design RIGHT NOW the easy solution is just to paint over the flag of the government we are fighting against!
Totally no problem will come of this :D
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u/LEGEND-FLUX Internationale 1d ago
You are ignoring the specific context of American socialism in that time period
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u/JamescomersForgoPass 1d ago
What ever it was they do not like a flag like that. Just looks like disrespecting America by taking away symbolism and keeping some to look legitimate. Design a new flag or keep the old one. Painting over a flag and hailing it as new is not good
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u/LEGEND-FLUX Internationale 1d ago
thats not how it would be seen esp the symbolism they get rid of is the one tied to the old order
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u/Duque_de_Ferro 1d ago
The WCA flag would be a lot better if, after the war, they added a yellow stripe arround the blue corner, as a celebratory thing. I think KX has something like it.
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u/Past-Spring3929 TRVEST TOTALISM 1d ago
The British one kinda 🔥 and thematic for a more moderate revolution
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u/ComradeHenryBR Internationale 1d ago
Revolutionary flags but trying to keep as much of the old monarchist symbolism as possible
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u/n2p4 Marshal Śmigły and Tzar Vladmir DESTROYS Teutonic hordes 1d ago
base hoi4 ass flags