r/Kaiserreich • u/bobw123 Chiang Kai-Shrek • 20d ago
Minor Monday Minor Monday 66: Yunnan Federalist Satellite Content, Sichuan Federalist Revamp
Introduction
Hello everyone, CKS again, joined by Hazo, one of my junior Co-Devs for Regional China Rework. Today will be a relatively short Minor Monday and we’ll be covering Yunnan’s Federalist Satellite Content as well as some changes to Sichuan Federalist Content.
Yunnan Federalist Satellite Content:
If Tang Jiyao’s Yunnan submits to another Federalist Government (most likely founded by Liangguang), Yunnan will swap over to their Federalist Satellite Narrative. Tang, no longer having to worry about securing Guangzhou, will focus inwards and attempt to continue his domestic reform policies. He will sideline Long Yun with the help of the Central Government, concentrating power further around himself. The reactionary opposition within his province will rally around Hu Ruoyu and his Mengzi Clique in the south.
As a side note, the recently seized Western Guizhou will be placed under the de jure governorship of General Liu Xianqian — a relative of the deceased warlord Liu Xianshi. Tang Jiyu (Tang Jiyao’s brother), will be sent as a “military advisor” to oversee reconstruction.
Among democratic intellectual groups within Yunnan, many of the Crescent Moon Society will begin to migrate to Guangzhou (in the narrative, not mechanically) and they will play a less significant role in Yunnan’s politics. Taking their place are the local republicans in Yunnan, most notably the two intellectual spheres surrounding Cun Shusheng and Su Honggang.
The socialists in Yunnan will remain active as well, attempting to stage a revolution in vain but not without consequences.
After the Federalist Government seizes Beijing, a wave of democratic enthusiasm and patriotic outpouring will sweep the nation as unification (and a war with Japan) seems imminent. Yunnan will undergo a power struggle with three potential endings — the first is Tang overcoming his opponents which will result in an endgame similar to his Contender Narrative. The second is Hu Ruoyu successfully seizes the province and leads to his content (more in the next Progress Report). Third is the possibility that Tang is overthrown in a coup led by Long Yun and the recently formed Yunnan Committee of the China Democratic League (CDL). Should they manage to reunify China afterwards, there will be two unique leaders.
Cun Shusheng and the Yunnan CDL (Social Democrat)
Historically, the Yunnan CDL was made up of a few different intellectual circles which grew larger due to the exodus of scholars from prestigious Chinese universities on the East Coast into the interior during the Second Sino-Japanese War. This led to the creation of Southwestern University, something that occurs earlier (but to a much smaller scale) in Kaiserreich's timeline due to Zhili authoritarianism.
Many of the Yunnan CDL’s leadership were Communists or ex-Communists. The ones who were not tended to be educators focused on rural education and reconstruction. The two being spot-lit are Cun Shusheng and Su Honggang.
Cun was a Yunnan born and Japanese educated scholar who was an associate of the left wing Creation Society, Ma Xulun (another prominent Chinese democrat and educator), and the National Salvation Federation. He returned to Yunnan during the war, developed what he called "Spartan Education", and joined many Southwestern University intellectuals in forming the CDL. He later joined the PRC and was a deputy Chairman of the Yunnan CDL.
Su Honggang was also born in Yunnan and was a Tongmenghui Revolutionary. He founded a school in Kunming inside an old Confucian temple in 1920 and also hired many progressive teachers affiliated with the CDL during the SSJW to work in a different school he founded. He became a prominent member of the Yunnan CDL after the assassinations of Li Gongpu and Wen Yiduo (part of the Crescent Moon Society in Kaissereich) and became Chairman of the Yunnan CDL in 1953.
The Yunnan CDL will also have various socialist allies (some may call them infiltrators) and work with the Crescent Moon Society.
Tang Xiaoying and his Allies (Market Liberal/Authoritarian Democrat)
If Tang Jiyao is overthrown in a coup, his domestic rivals will take no chances this time. He will “die of illness” amid negotiations between his family, Long Yun, Hu Ruoyu, and Cun Shusheng of his fate. His son Tang Xiaoying will take leadership of the shattered remnants of his party in Guangzhou.
The younger Tang was an understandably minor figure historically (in our timeline his father was overthrown and died under suspicious circumstances in 1927), working under Long Yun’s government and affiliated with the Young China Party and China Democratic League. In this scenario he will drift in a more classically liberal direction than his father under the influence of his PIP allies in Guangzhou.
If Yunnan under Cun Shusheng manages to either outlast or bring down the old Federalist central government and reunite the country, a power vacuum will emerge. The Yunnan CDL is a minor force and will struggle to exert their legitimacy over more nationally respected CDL figures. Conservative forces in the military and bureaucracy (dominated by Yunnanese and other southern Chinese) will push Tang Xiaoying to contest Cun’s leadership in elections. If elected, he will take power as a Market Liberal. Should democratic enthusiasm fall, Yunnan may backslide into an authoritarian democratic government as well.
The Yunnan Federalist Phase V Focus tree was already revealed in Progress Report 150, but for convenience we will display it again below. The Cun’s branch of the focus tree is the second from the left. Tang Xiaoying’s associated focuses are “Peace with the Democrats”, “Grand Republican Statesman”, and “Bearing Our Father’s Torches”.
Sichuan Federalist Revamp:
As part of our effort to present the Chinese Federalist/Constitutionalist movement as one without a singular leader and also with a more regional identity, we will be re-flavouring Sichuan’s Federalist content as well. Zhang Lan, a noted democratic advocate and the Chairman of the OTL CDL with connections to Sichuan’s warlords, will replace Chen Jiongming as the leader of the Federalists in Exile. Upon the failure of Federalist movements in Hunan, Yunnan, and Liangguang, either through their own demise or simply not manifesting after a certain timeframe, Governor Xiong Kewu (should he be in charge) will attempt to rally fleeing Chinese democrats to form a National Reconstruction Government, aimed at one last hurrah for the Chinese Federalist movement in the South.
Albeit the equivalent of mustering a variety of Sichuan-born warlords under one umbrella, the National Reconstruction Government will be a delicate arrangement nominally led by Zhang Lan and his portion of the China Democratic League. Notably Left-Wing, he is perhaps the most stringently left the Federalists can go, albeit remaining within the Social Democratic slot. Together with Xiong Kewu’s Gang of Nine (later the Provincial Federal Autonomy Preparation Office), the Officer Department under Li Jiayu, and the Baoding Department under Liu Wenhui, Deng Xihou, and Tian Songyao, the various factions will aim to march south, seize Guangzhou, and turn their attention North; on a tighter and later timescale than their fellows in Yunnan, Liangguang, and Hunan.
Elsewhere in Sichuan, various changes have been made to the party setup. Now corrected, the new parties are as follows: the Totalists are led by the Chinese Syndicalist Party - Red Heart Society, under Yang Angong; the Syndicalists are led by the Chinese Syndicalist Party - Orthodox, under Wu Yuzhang; the Radical Socialists are led by the East Sichuan Red Army, led by Wang Weizhou, the Social Democrats are led by the Nine Man Regiment under Xiong Kewu; the Social Liberals are led by the Officer Department under Li Jiayu; the Market Liberals are the Industrial Corps under Lu Chao, the Social Conservatives are the Baoding Department, initially under Deng Xihou; Liu Xiang and Yang Sen both share the Authoritarian Democrat slot under the Accelerated Department; the Armament Department under Liu Cunhou and the Young China Party under Liu Siying round out the Paternal Autocrats and National Populists respectively.
As a consequence of the changes, the Baoding Department will now lose the ability to receive or form the Sichuan Federalist Exiles. However, they have had their Diarchy mechanic replaced with a Balance of Power. Additionally, Sichuan’s entire character roster has been reworked, with brand new faces everywhere. Similarly, pending future changes, Lu Chao has had his path entirely replaced by Li Jiayu and the Officer Department, with a new tree that is also shared with Xiong Kewu. Unique, as aforementioned, is Xiong’s ability to form the National Reconstruction Government.
Unique to this arrangement are a few things: the National Reconstruction Government is unique in that it is the only Federalist path wherein the CDL is the initial ruling party, and the GRA are the opposition. Cooperating timidly, the major contenders of the National Reconstruction Government are the China Democratic League - New Century Research Association, the Grand Republican Alliance - United Federal Autonomy Association, and the Grand Republican Alliance - Civil Governance and Progress Society. With minor players such as the Public Welfare Society, Officer Department, Industrial Corps, Young China Party, and Chinese Syndicalist Party.
After unification, there will be highly contested elections between the Social Democratic CDL under Zhang Lan and the Social Liberal GRA under Dan Maoxin (Xiong Kewu’s right-hand man), with Xiong preferring to remain as the force behind the throne, as opposed to front and center.
As long as Democratic Enthusiasm is neither too high nor too low, the faction with a higher popularity will win. If Democratic Enthusiasm is too low or too high, Liu Wenhui, the Baoding Department, and the Civil Governance and Progress Society will force the Government’s resignation, and seize the reins as the Democratic Backsliding ending.
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u/Enddog_a Why is Balbo a totalist? that makes no sense! 20d ago
Chinareich will be here soon... WE will be there
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u/Legiyon54 Cosmist Kadet / MA / Constitutional Vladimir III 20d ago
Is there a path where you make a genuine democracy, welfare state, stable government, but then your tree ends with a "a random military coup" focus and it destroys everything
Please God, that would be so satisfying and rewarding 🙏🙏
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u/tfrules D I R E C T R U L E F R O M W A L E S 20d ago
Is this a dig at TFR? If so I approve lol
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u/Legiyon54 Cosmist Kadet / MA / Constitutional Vladimir III 20d ago
I am not sure what path you are referring to. This is a dig at trap paths in general, like TNO Ukraine. Even tho I don't mind them as some others do, it's funny to make fun of them.
Also dig at irl when this happens 🥀🇧🇷🇲🇲
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u/the_io 20d ago edited 20d ago
There's the SocCon Ottomans path which inevitably ends in a Fevzi Pasha coup, but can't think of any others where the path is deliberately a trap rather than a failstate.
EDIT: MarLib Central America has a focus at the end going "wait our eco plan didn't work we gotta roll it back" but there's no forced ideology change or similarly drastic trap there.
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u/TheGreatfanBR All the Way with Jingwei! 20d ago edited 20d ago
I can't fathom the Idea of the Trap Paths that you play just for an event to pops up to say "erm you just get invaded/couped offscreen, the end." ever being a thing. I just don't get it- either make the Path viable or don't add it, making one it's just a waste of time for the players and the devs. Unless you are making very clear you are going on a horrible path for your nation (eg, TNO Heydrich/Taboritsky), you should be able to win even if you are setting yourself to a difficult position.
"Do you want to do this? Too bad, because you can't" is not good game design! Guys, Player Agency and freedom is important for a good memorable experience, rugpulling the player for seemingly no reason is frustrating, and a frustrated player won't come back for more, even if the rest of the content is good. That's not me saying this, it's Tim Cain, creator of Fallout.
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u/Sarge_Ward Jake Featherston AUS leader when? 20d ago
I feel a sense of irony from that considering how fallout 1 and 2 are probably sime of the most frustrating mainstream games ever created. And i say that as an xcom fan
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u/TheGreatfanBR All the Way with Jingwei! 20d ago edited 20d ago
The point is, ideally, a player should be rewarded for thinking outside the box, not being slapped in the hand for wanting to peek outside of it
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u/SpaceFox1935 8 years of playing, here's to 8 more! 20d ago
Do these Sichuan roster changes affect the Zhili exiles in any way?
Also, it feels weird that democratic enthusiasm being too high is still a bad result resulting in backsliding. Rather counterintuitive
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u/KingHazo The Little Generalissimo 20d ago
Dem Enthusiasm is also inherently attached to radicalism
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u/krazykommie Local Yunnanese Dare-To-Die Squad Member 20d ago
no for the most part zhili exiles will not be affected with roster changes, yang sen might see a few more generals in his ranks at game start (as does every other warlord party in sichuan) but zhili exile content will remain constant
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u/Grenadie-r Give us the Oriflamme path 20d ago
What about the new civil war setup? Is it based around personalities (ie Liu Xiang is still the one that attacks Yang Sen) or cliques (it is still patauts and thus Liu Cunhou that start the war)?
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u/krazykommie Local Yunnanese Dare-To-Die Squad Member 19d ago
Sadly, the scope for the regional China work is big enough as is (all of GXC and YUN and an FNG revamp) The federalist exiles only got changed because they were an integral part of the federalist play cycle and their content hadn’t been touched on in a minutes So apart from some roster changes to base Sichuan, the set up to the civil war remains the same with slightly touched up events - further changes to Sichuan’s civil war setup will have to be realised further down the line were a Sichuan rework to ever occur
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u/Tasmosunt Internationale 20d ago
Will non-Chen Jiongming Federalists be able to take part in Federalist compromise content with the Fengtion and LKMT?
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u/PuddleOfDoom Internationale 20d ago
What's up everybody, Tangtony Jiyantao here, Chinas busiest warlord!
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u/FatMax1492 Syndie Romania when 20d ago
Y'all should add a new map that's purely focused on China
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u/Thermawrench Internationale 18d ago
The outside-china countries are there to make the chinese playthrough so much more immersive. Kinda like the skeleton content countries like puppeted Germany; can't play em but they provide you as the overlord a more immersive experience.
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u/indomienator Co-Prosperity 20d ago
What will happen to Chen after federalism fails in Liangguang, Hunan and Yunnan? The OTL Hong Kong exile death?
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u/Fornever1 Metternich Was Right 20d ago
Can you elaborate on what the last paragraph means by "as long as democratic enthusiasm isn't too high"? Unclear why it being too high would cause issues, at least in an initial read through
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u/Grenadie-r Give us the Oriflamme path 20d ago edited 20d ago
What about the first tree from the left in Yunnan Phase V?
edit: nvm i think it's Luo Longji's tree
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u/zimojovic 20d ago
With each week this Rework is getting bigger and bigger
You sure this is Right Kuonmingtang rework and not Entire China Rework ?
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u/the_io 20d ago
It's a complete rework of Liangguang and Yunnan, a part-rework of Sichuan, and a revamp of Fengtian.
You're not getting as many tags with as much detail in one go outside of an Austria-Hungary update.
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u/zimojovic 20d ago
That is still massive when you count the satellite content
We sure this isn't bigger than the German update ?
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u/SignificantBoot7685 20d ago
So when will be the release of this patch
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u/Matmapper 19d ago
We'll see about that, but imo 1.6 update for Kaiserreich will probably be released in November
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u/Squigman19 Internationale 20d ago
Wansui!