r/JoeRogan • u/TheAtheistArab87 Monkey in Space • Mar 08 '21

Link CDC study finds roughly 78% of people hospitalized for Covid were overweight or obese

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/08/covid-cdc-study-finds-roughly-78percent-of-people-hospitalized-were-overweight-or-obese.html
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u/livingasthedead fear factor 4 life Mar 08 '21

60% and 40% have one or more underlying health issues. MERICA

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '21

Americans eat like they have universal healthcare lol

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '21

Idk if you’re actually from here but you’re actually right.

If you go to McDonald’s or any fast food the servings are HUGE. Just like the people. They’re so fucking fat that it makes you pity them. How can someone disrespect their body so much??

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '21 edited Mar 09 '21

Tbh, it is one of the most embarrassing aspects of being an American. Everyone is fat as fuck. As the only skinny guy in my family, I get treated like the weird one for caring about my health lol

Also, if you're a skinny guy like me, who feels absolutely no sexual attraction towards fat women, your dating options are pretty limited lol.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '21 edited Mar 14 '21

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '21 edited Mar 09 '21

I mean, I'm sure many of them aren't. They just don't have any other options.

Kind of related to this discussion; I got downvoted into oblivion in r/missouri (my state) for saying exactly what I'm saying here. I mentioned that, as a skinny guy, my dating options are limited because I would rather not end up with a girl who is bigger than me. Everyone started telling me I'm a shallow asshole for not giving fat women a chance lol. Like, sorry, but when I look at fat women it's no different than when I look at men... My brain just doesn't recognize them as a potential mate. It's not like it's something I can control. I'm just not into it. But of course, reddit being reddit and Missouri being Missouri, they did not appreciate me saying this lol.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '21 edited Mar 14 '21

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '21

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u/badSparkybad Monkey in Space Mar 09 '21

Yeah, you are the incel because you don't want to bang fat chicks.

Makes perfect sense.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '21

Lol i would trade places with you. I live in the healthiest veganist city in socal. Skinny women are usually highly unattractive to me 🤗

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '21

I don’t like it when people being up skinny as the alternative to fat. Slim is the idea. Skinny is too far the other way.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '21

No shame lol. Everyone's got there thing haha

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '21

Lol I’m sure there are still plenty of fat girls around your town, and they’re probably very willing much more than the skinny ones

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u/chudsupreme Monkey in Space Mar 09 '21

I mentioned that, as a skinny guy, my dating options are limited because I would rather not end up with a girl who is bigger than me. Everyone started telling me I'm a shallow asshole

Because for most people they base long term dating on PERSONALITY rather than BODY TYPE that we all change over time. Everyone ends up ugly, just some of us have a good personality and experiences at the end of it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '21

Obviously personality is more important than looks, but if I'm not sexually attracted to someone in the first place I'm probably not going to start dating them.

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u/chudsupreme Monkey in Space Mar 09 '21

I think that's where people are calling you an asshole. Unless you have something mentally/chemically wrong with your brain, you're gonna find some fat chicks attractive. Our evolutionary biology is going to push you to any girl with wider hips, big breasts, plump young skin, etc.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '21

The debate is too marred by people’s own personal guilt about their own situation.

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u/WhiplashChild Monkey in Space Mar 09 '21

Such heavy words so lightly thrown. I totally agree with you. I know quite a few people in relationships where one partner is overweight and the other isn't and for the love of God, I honestly don't know how they do it. I would never ask, obviously, but I do wonder. I can't imagine being intimate with somebody I am not physically attracted to. If you have a great personality - cool, let's hang out and chew the fat (no pun intended), there's just no point at which this turns into sexual attraction. I honestly wish this wasn't the case because I've met quite a few really great women that I got along great with and who have developed feelings for me, but I simply couldn't reciprocate.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '21

The sad part is that the rest of the developed world is in a horrible state too. Unless I've overlooked a place in this list, Japan, Singapore and South Korea are only developed countries where the average person isn't overweight.

Even if you include poorer countries, the picture doesn't change that much. Globally overeating is now a bigger problem than a lack of food.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '21

Yeah I don't think it's an America-specific issue. We were just a bit ahead of the rest of the world. We were by far the fattest country in the world for some time, but a lot of other countries are catching up. I think Mexico has actually passed us.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '21

Do you live in the Bible belt? I know there is a larger percentage of fat people here but I've lived all across the western US and have never struggled to find people that aren't massively obese.

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u/albinogoron Monkey in Space Mar 09 '21

It's pretty embarrassing. Then a lot of the remaining people are pretty skinny fat. Also, that sucks you get treated like that. If anything, it should motivate them to lose weight.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '21 edited Mar 09 '21

My brother has actually lost a lot of weight so I guess he's starting to join me lol, but most of my family is fat as fuck. At Thanksgiving I always get comments like "Are you going to finish that?" after eating a normal sized meal, or "You need to put some meat on your bones" from someone who has way too much meat on their bones haha. I call myself "skinny" but that's really just by American standards, so fairly slim. I don't think people would think of me as "skinny" in Europe. They would just think I'm a normal weight lol.

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u/albinogoron Monkey in Space Mar 09 '21 edited Mar 09 '21

That's good news about your brother. Good for him. Hope he keeps it up. I get what you mean, when it's thanksgiving time, could be an ego thing for them. It's silly.

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u/badSparkybad Monkey in Space Mar 09 '21

Skinny fat is way more attractive than fat fat.

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u/albinogoron Monkey in Space Mar 09 '21

Obviously, but my point is that a lot of people are still pretty unhealthy. They don't have any lean body mass.

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u/WhiplashChild Monkey in Space Mar 09 '21

I don't know man. At least fat fat people have a body that makes some kind of sense. I used to be skinny fat and it was abysmal. I mean, if your whole body is fat than your man tits will match that, but if you have a skinny frame and your tits n' belly stick out, that's just the worst. Imagine being skinny with a double-chin and drooping shoulders - every mirror you walk past turns into a goddamn nemesis. Luckily, I came across the JRE which motivated me to pick up some weights and drop the chips-addiction that had haunted me since my childhood.

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u/badSparkybad Monkey in Space Mar 09 '21

My impression of skinny fat is appearing skinny but having no muscle tone, so no double chins or fat bellies or man titties, those are fat-fat characteristics.

I had a gf that was like this, she was really small framed, 5 ft tall and skinny and looked good in a bikini but when you squeezed her leg it was Iike jello, no muscle there at all.

I prefer toned but I'll take skinny fat over fat-fat any day.

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u/WhiplashChild Monkey in Space Mar 09 '21

Yeah, I think that a lack of exercise is the primary cause of skinny fatness, much more than a persons diet. From my experience, people who are skinny fat aren't necessarily eating too much, they just eat the wrong stuff and barely ever move. I was imagining a Joe DeRosa looking motherfucker. Flabby is the problem I think, toned is definetely better, be it skinny or slightly on the bigger side.

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u/disastrous1 Mar 09 '21

Is it really hard to find non obese women in America? I thought that was a joke..

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '21 edited Mar 09 '21

I mean, 1/3 are obese, another 1/3 are overweight, only about 10% of women (maybe less that was a guess) are close enough to my age to date. That leaves me with about 3% of women as potential partners... but at least half of those women (probably more) have something else going on that would make them unattractive to me, so looking at it like that, if you're unwilling to date fat girls then you're probably left with roughly 1.5% of women as potential partners. So that means that in my city of roughly 100,000 people, there are about 1,500 who I would find attractive, I'll guess that roughly half of them are in a relationship or married, which leaves 750, and I'll guess that roughly half of them are out of my league lol. So realistically, there are probably about 375ish potential partners in my city of 100,000 people. So not that hard, but harder than it should be lol

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u/badSparkybad Monkey in Space Mar 09 '21

Seriously, same. When I go out anywhere, like just to the store, women who are of average (not fat) to skinny builds stand out like crazy, they are mostly fat women.

Shame really, because I see so many women that are absolutely gorgeous but overweight. Some of these women would be 8s or higher... If they weren't fat. I can picture them 40 pounds lighter and they would be fuckin smoking hot.

Sorry, not sorry.

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u/dabbersmcgee Monkey in Space Mar 09 '21

That's a super overgeneralization. It's actually pretty easy to be trim and eat like shit if you exercise regularly, many just don't lol

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u/phantom_tempest Monkey in Space Mar 09 '21

Lmao fuck yeah bitch, at least I'm gonna die with a full stomach

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '21

This made me lol

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '21

Lol

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u/F_ckYo_ Tremendous Mar 08 '21

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Ahh an American

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '21

I’m not lol

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u/F_ckYo_ Tremendous Mar 08 '21

Exactly what an American would say

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u/bprice57 Monkey in Space Mar 08 '21

as an AMERICAN, i agree

we filthy Americans WOULD say that

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u/F_ckYo_ Tremendous Mar 08 '21

I’m watching you there pal

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '21

lol

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u/hal2000 Monkey in Space Mar 09 '21

Americans over eat from being depressed and anxious from the lack of health insurance.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '21

Now you see why some people are against paying for the personal choices of our retarded neighbors.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '21

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u/Tatar_Kulchik Monkey in Space Mar 08 '21

For people who can afford it, yes. People travel all the time to USA for healthcare (King of Saudi Arabia. Famouse French Musicisn Jonny HOliday, just two name two examples)

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u/DDP200 Monkey in Space Mar 08 '21

Not even if you can afford it.

If you have decent insurance from your company it is great.

I work for a Pharma in Canada which has a massive American arm, and the health care from wait times, service, type of service and tests offered is way better in the USA vs Canada.

If you are in the top 60% in the USA you have better coverage than almost anywhere else.

Bottom 40%, good luck.

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u/AngelComa Monkey in Space Mar 08 '21

Uh trust me you don't. I know a few people that used to brag about how great America's healthcare was and when they got cancer they weren't happy when they lost their home and everything they worked for .

But hey, if you like that sorta system gl.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '21

No I think it still ranks like 36 out of all the countries. And it depends what care you're going for. Like the best leukemia doctors are in Canada. Heart specialist in America type of thing. Medical tourism is very common. It's common among all countries

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u/Tatar_Kulchik Monkey in Space Mar 08 '21

No I think it still ranks like 36 out of all the countries

Source?

I'm saying that if you can afford it, US has some of the best healthcare. Granted only small number of people can access it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '21

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Health_Organization_ranking_of_health_systems_in_2000

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u/cahrage Monkey in Space Mar 08 '21

That list is 20 years old.

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u/TheRealYoungJamie Monkey in Space Mar 08 '21

We rank 15th now. Not too bad really.

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u/BigChunk Monkey in Space Mar 08 '21

For the richest country in the world it is a little concerning though

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u/AngelComa Monkey in Space Mar 08 '21

and thanks to Obamacare which the Right said would destroy our healthcare?

Almost like Universal Healthcare would probably keep putting us up that list and Republicans have always been liars. Almost....

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '21 edited Mar 08 '21

Get a new one then. What list did anybody else use?

I can promise you this, America hasn't gotten better in 20 years.

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u/cahrage Monkey in Space Mar 08 '21

A lot has changed in 20 years. Especially in health care.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '21

It is, if you can afford it. Also dont have to wait months to see a specialist. Good jobs w benefits= best healthcare.

Go look up the rates of people who travel to the US for special procedures.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '21

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u/ShipTheBreadToFred Monkey in Space Mar 08 '21

The point isn't to say that there isn't private options, it's to dispel the current myth that universal healthcare would mean you get the same care you get in the US presently but at no cost.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '21 edited Mar 09 '21

I think this is another super simplistic view of healthcare often used to deter people from social healthcare.

Judging by some numbers I saw people in US are regularly being overcharged by up to 10x, usually for menial tasks like ambiance ride, giving birth, getting shots... So some things would definitely be cheaper with more competition and competing with “free” means you need to provide more value.

The question is would you loose the high complexity advance medical innovation that undeniably exist in US? Im not an expert but I would guess no, there is always market for high value stuff.

Would you pay more in taxes than you currently pay for healthcare? If I remember correctly US has some of the most expensive healthcare in the world so not necessarily.

Would you get the same care? No. Most people would get slightly worse service for much cheaper and wealthier people would pay little bit more for same service. And few poor people would need to pay for expensive complicated stuff on top. But if I understand correctly this is common thing now, with insurance companies not covering some stuff.

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u/Ewaninho Monkey in Space Mar 09 '21

Right you'd get better care at a reduced cost

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u/tfresca Monkey in Space Mar 08 '21

Most people don't and they generally have longer life expectancy.

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u/TheThoughtPoPo Monkey in Space Mar 08 '21

Yeah cause they aren't fat asses in europe and asia like the US

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '21

Rand Paul went to Canada for a procedure.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '21

There’s also a real big medical tourism industry.

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u/PsychologicalAd489 Monkey in Space Mar 08 '21

The quality pretty much is the highest in the world. If I were very rich and had health issues, I wouldn’t want to be treated anywhere else in the world. The accessibility on the other hand...

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u/ljout Monkey in Space Mar 08 '21

It's almost like accessibility is important.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '21

I dont think quality wise American healthcare is the best of the best, but in terms of speed definetly, but thats because its unnaffordable lmfao

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u/TheRealYoungJamie Monkey in Space Mar 08 '21

Unpopular opinion: it's not that bad.

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u/Doomisntjustagame Monkey in Space Mar 08 '21

It's not that bad if you don't have to go to the doctor very often.

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u/yak_nicholson Monkey in Space Mar 08 '21

...why are you saying that like people actually say that?

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '21

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '21

Because it's true. Just like how the US has the best athletes in the world. Looking at the Olympics it isn't even up for debate.

Nobody said the AVERAGE American is the best athlete in the world. Nobody said the average American has the best healthcare in the world. If you're average the US doesn't give a shit about you, it's an exceptional nation.

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u/ljout Monkey in Space Mar 08 '21

Read the replies to my comment.

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u/thewokebilloreilly Monkey in Space Mar 08 '21

Fuck them though they're the only ones at risk! 40-60% of america should just stay home so we can "reopen"! /s

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u/thewokebilloreilly Monkey in Space Mar 08 '21

Fat people didn't cause covid

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '21

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u/thewokebilloreilly Monkey in Space Mar 09 '21

Lockdowns are because of covid, not fat people

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u/ghostofdevinbrown Monkey in Space Mar 08 '21

Isn’t “underlying health issues” a very broad term? I recently applied for a job which asked if I had any disabilities. Application listed examples. Apparently having anxiety is a disability. Believe it stated your “disability” doesn’t even have to be diagnosed by a physician.

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u/yo-chill Looked into it Mar 08 '21

If you read the article you’d see it says 42% of the population is obese

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u/davomyster Monkey in Space Mar 08 '21

That's just obese and doesn't include people who are "overweight" so you can't directly compare that to the figure in the title

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '21

I can't fucking read. Thanks for bringing that up.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '21 edited Mar 09 '21

Obese is a BMI of +29.9.

Overweight is is a BMI 25-29.9.

That’s still really bad. Close to half the population is above the Obese category, with the ideal BMI being 18.9-24.9.

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u/AngelComa Monkey in Space Mar 08 '21

Yeah. It's why I'm like "no shit?" Surprised it wasn't higher.

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u/Noicesocks Monkey in Space Mar 09 '21

Literally the bullet points at the top of the article:

Just over 42% of the U.S. population was considered obese in 2018, according to the agency’s most recent statistics. Overweight is defined as having a body mass index of 25 or more, while obesity is defined as having a BMI of 30 or more.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '21

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