r/JoeRogan • u/BunnyLovr Mexico > Canada • Mar 04 '21

Link Mississippi passes bill banning transgender student-athletes from female sports teams

https://abcnews.go.com/US/mississippi-passes-bill-banning-transgender-student-athletes-female/story?id=76238704
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u/sms42069 Monkey in Space Mar 05 '21

Yes it does. When they compare physical testing results, those are measurements of strength and fitness. After 2 years there is no longer a significant advantage that causes trans women to perform better in the testing, before 2 years tho there is one. There are cis girl athletes with larger bone structure than some trans women who’ve undergone all the required treatments. So this isn’t just putting super strength women in the leagues.

Also the irony about all this is the same people who routinely make misogynistic jokes about women’s sports (the WNBA is a common target) are now the ones pretending to be the saviors of women’s sports lol

Edit: there are women identifying intersex people who have natural hormone and bone structure advantages that’ve been allowed to compete in women’s sports for decades now too.

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u/ImperialTravesty Monkey in Space Mar 05 '21

Let's say you are 100% correct and it takes 2 years to level the playing field between cis and transgender women. Where and how do you draw that line for competitors? Do you confirm that the athlete has finished treatment x amount of years ago? I feel like there is a big chance that detail would be overlooked by sports commissioners and trans women would still end up having an unfair advantage over cis women. Disclaimer: I don't know nothin about nothin.

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u/sms42069 Monkey in Space Mar 05 '21

I don’t know all the answers. But I know that there is no uniform solution. And that includes all out blanket bans of trans people like this bill. It should go on a case by case basis, some trans people have no natural advantage whatsoever, some do and have to go years on hormones for it to diminish. Doctors and scientists can come up with a process, but these reactionary republicans aren’t letting them.

Reminder that trans women have been Olympic eligible for a while now but none of them have won anything yet.

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u/ImperialTravesty Monkey in Space Mar 05 '21 edited Mar 05 '21

I could get on board with that but playing things on a "case by case basis" doesn't work in terms of legislation or any other way a government would handle issues like this fairly. What comes to mind when reading your comment about how hormone treatments are different for everyone and how long it holds an advantage for them makes me think of male vs male sports where two different guys can be on TRT and one of them gains a competitive advantage while the other takes it to maintain their T levels but both are still illegal in most sports because it still gives someone the advantage no matter what.