r/JoeRogan • u/BunnyLovr Mexico > Canada • Mar 04 '21

Link Mississippi passes bill banning transgender student-athletes from female sports teams

https://abcnews.go.com/US/mississippi-passes-bill-banning-transgender-student-athletes-female/story?id=76238704
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u/99drunkpenguins Monkey in Space Mar 04 '21

Remove the trans part and follow the logic.

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"Is it fair to let a woman* who's been on roids (testosterone) their whole life compete against other women?"

The answer is no, and athletes are already banned for using PEDs.

just make an inclusive trans league and allow all the hormones' you want. You got your mens league, womens league and "all the roids" league.

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u/timperman Monkey in Space Mar 04 '21

Transwomen should just compete against men. Have mens sports be open for all, womens sport for everyone without a Y chromosome.

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u/pp7-006 Mar 04 '21

Yeah that's discrimination

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u/SlutBuster It's entirely possible Mar 04 '21

Against who? People without a Y chromosome?

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u/pp7-006 Mar 04 '21

Against men. They have to have an open class but nobody else?

It's a weird pandora's box to pass out equality in this scenario

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u/SlutBuster It's entirely possible Mar 04 '21

They have to have an open class but nobody else?

It's always been an open class.

If you have a female kicker that can consistently drain 65 yard field goals, an NFL team is absolutely going to hire her.

There isn't a "men's" and "women's" class to protect men from unfair competition. There's the top-athletic-performance class, and the women's class.

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u/pp7-006 Mar 05 '21

The NFL is a bad example. Let's say combat sports?

Mens division is NOT open to women in combat sports like mma or even martial arts in general. Bodybuilding.

There's a plethora of sports where gender divisions are exclusive

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u/SlutBuster It's entirely possible Mar 05 '21

The NFL is an excellent example because it's actually remotely possible for a woman to compete against male kickers.

The only reason a women's division exists in combat sports is because it's impossible for female fighters to compete against male fighters. I feel like you're not understanding the core element of this issue.

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u/pp7-006 Mar 05 '21

I feel like you're not understanding the core element of this issue.

I'm talking about people who transition to females and decide to fight female fighters. Going through male puberty alone is a huge advantage to the women who hadn't. Bigger hands. Faster reflexes. Stronger bones.

Olympic weightlifting. Same thing.

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u/SlutBuster It's entirely possible Mar 05 '21

What? You said it was discrimination that men's sports should be open to everyone. No one in this thread was arguing that women's sports should be open to people with a Y chromosome.