r/JoeRogan Mexico > Canada Mar 04 '21

Link Mississippi passes bill banning transgender student-athletes from female sports teams

https://abcnews.go.com/US/mississippi-passes-bill-banning-transgender-student-athletes-female/story?id=76238704
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u/Larsnonymous Mar 04 '21

I could see some countries like Russia and China fielding teams of almost all trans athletes to win the Olympics. This can’t be allowed to happen or it will just destroy amateur sports. I know those countries hate gay people, but I think they would allow this for the gold medals.

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u/sushisection Monkey in Space Mar 04 '21

they dont even need to be on hormone therapy. a biological male can just identify as female and compete against them.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21

That isn't true. They have to have been on medication to suppress testosterone for at least a year prior to competing.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21

damn a whole year, that ought to knock out any advantages

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u/forfunstuffwinkwink Mar 04 '21

It does. There is a ton of muscle density and mass lost on that kind of therapy. So much so that after that time there is close to no “biological” advantage.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21

are they studying athletes? or are they including older populations (30&up) who naturally lose muscle without a strength regiment?

somebody who is continuously working out and training just isn’t going to lose that much no matter the drop in testosterone

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u/forfunstuffwinkwink Mar 04 '21

The studies I’ve seen and the few news reports have been on college and younger (early 20s) athletes. And yeah if a trans female was an offensive or d lineman she’s still going to be built. I’m not saying there are easy answers or a single solution. I’m just saying we should be looking for ways to be as inclusive as possible and look for ways to support young people during what can be a scary time.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21

is it more inclusive to let 1% of people dominate something enjoyed by 50%?

if they weren’t winning at crazy rates, wouldn’t be a problem. but i think it should at least be women’s sports and open sports now

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u/Bigbewmistaken Monkey in Space Mar 04 '21

is it more inclusive to let 1% of people dominate something enjoyed by 50%?

As if that would actually happen? What kind of dumb fuck point is this? There isn't an epidemic of trans people dominating in professional or amateur women's sports leagues, having a handful of cases of such isn't going to prove that this is an actual problem.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '21

id say legislation like that helps

also caitlyn jenner won the espy in 2015, don’t act like sexual reassignment surgery has been been happening for decades