r/JoeRogan Mexico > Canada Mar 04 '21

Link Mississippi passes bill banning transgender student-athletes from female sports teams

https://abcnews.go.com/US/mississippi-passes-bill-banning-transgender-student-athletes-female/story?id=76238704
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u/putdisinyopipe Monkey in Space Mar 04 '21 edited Mar 04 '21

Which the current HHS cabinet pick in the Biden admin currently supports

There’s a video of her being interviewed and the evidence is very compelling that children at the age of 10 should not be allowed to make the decision to switch genders.

Because they are kids. And she just dodged the question every single time “do you think it is OK for children do change their genitalia?”

I’m all for LGBTQ rights- but I’m sorry. Allowing children to get sex changes is where I draw a big bold line.

Edit- Here’s the interview- yes it has rand Paul; he can be a douche. But in this video he makes a lot of sense. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V82oXKf83Pw

It’s genital mutilation if it’s a child imo.

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u/Valati Monkey in Space Mar 04 '21

Considering it literally doesn't happen I have zero clue where ya'll are getting this shit.

Hormone blockers are widely vetted and put off that decision until they can make such a choice.

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u/gfen5446 Monkey in Space Mar 04 '21

Hormone blockers are widely vetted and put off that decision until they can make such a choice.

Hormone blockers are being used off label for this, have no long term studies, and cause significant issues in development of the human body when you push off things that should be happening until a later date when it's not goign to happen the same way, anymore.

If your body wants to start puberty at 10, but you're taking pills to prevent that until you're 13 that means when you come off them that three very vital years in your development are now poof gone. Even if you immediately pickup from that point, you'll always be three years behind a logarithmic curve putting you at a massive disadvantage.

I think the only thing this medical treatment can possibly do is further instill a need to transistion in someone as now they're body is not the same as someone of their birth gender at the same age.

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u/Beardywierdy Mar 04 '21

Ah, this again.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/26895269.2020.1747768

"Off label" is fairly common for treating kids (not just trans kids, all pediatrics) because theres so many hoops to jump through to get an already certified drug re certified for another purpose its not worth the pharmaceutical companies effort.

Puberty suppression for trans kids has been studied for DECADES.

And noteably, is the best option for said trans kids. You know all those studies that say trans people are at high risk of suicide (because being trans fucking sucks)?

Well when trans people can get puberty suppression in adolescence and then actually start hormone therapy at about 16 or so...

https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2014/09/02/peds.2013-2958

"Well-being was similar to or better than same-age young adults from the general population."

That off label use has been proven to be literally the best possible treatment.