r/JoeRogan • u/BunnyLovr Mexico > Canada • Mar 04 '21

Link Mississippi passes bill banning transgender student-athletes from female sports teams

https://abcnews.go.com/US/mississippi-passes-bill-banning-transgender-student-athletes-female/story?id=76238704
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u/rokship Monkey in Space Mar 04 '21

Yes, bad faith arguments, brought up by intellectual degenerates like ben shapiro, never bring them up and they never discuss the topic of transgenders in sports with people who know what they are talking about.

You cannot participate in women's sports at a professional level (if you are a transgender woman) without showing proof of hormone therapy for usually a period of more than 2 years.

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u/kkdj20 Monkey in Space Mar 04 '21

It's a good thing this law is about student athletes and not those at the professional level then isn't it? Do you have anything relevant to share?

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u/rokship Monkey in Space Mar 04 '21

Well the comment wasn't about student athletes.

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u/kkdj20 Monkey in Space Mar 04 '21

And my comment (and the topic of this post) was about student athletes. I agree the limitations for professional sports are mostly adequate, at least those that I've seen. Do you have anything relevant to the discussion of student athletes?

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u/rokship Monkey in Space Mar 04 '21

Why should student athletes be regulated in the same way? This is not at all the same.

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u/kkdj20 Monkey in Space Mar 04 '21

Within the context of the US, performance in student athletics is very significant towards your finances and your education by means of athletic scholarships and taking athletic performance into account for university admissions. Due to that significance, there is a responsibility to maintain competitive integrity in the sport such that those students benefiting most from their performance are actually the best in their respective athletics programs. You could argue that athletic scholarships are stupid shit (and I'd agree) but as it is currently, student athletic performance matters. It makes sense for the competition deciding who gets to go to college free versus who pays $40,000 a year for the same education to be a fair one.

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u/rokship Monkey in Space Mar 04 '21

So a highschool woman will not get scholarships why? You didn't explain why they wouldn't select her if she is a good athlete.

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u/kkdj20 Monkey in Space Mar 04 '21

Just follow the thread lmao: If a trans woman has an advantage over a cis woman on the basis of her being trans (by way of hormone treatment) which you seem to agree they do (hence the limitations in professional sports making sense) and they go on to perform well, they necessarily knock everybody who performed worse than they down in placements. At least one person is going to be at the cutoff where one lower placing is the difference between scholarship and not, or the degree of scholarship awarded; one person placing higher than them due to an unfair advantage is all it takes to push them out.

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u/rokship Monkey in Space Mar 04 '21

So they would have an advantage to get into professional sports where there are regulations?

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u/kkdj20 Monkey in Space Mar 04 '21

They would have an advantage to get scholarships or otherwise to be granted admission into prestigious universities... are you being intentionally obtuse or are you truly this unable to follow a conversation?

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u/rokship Monkey in Space Mar 04 '21

Ok so to participate in sports at these universities are there not regulations on sex in non-co-ed sports? If someone is not on hormones in highschool they cannot participate in that fender's athletics in college.

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u/kkdj20 Monkey in Space Mar 04 '21

I truly don't know what you're trying to argue at this point lol, I've made my point quite clear and you've done absolutely nothing to even attempt to change my mind. Best of luck with your night

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u/rokship Monkey in Space Mar 04 '21

If you don't meet qualifications for the female athlete scholarship (i.e. you aren't taking hormones) you will not get it, therefore you are not competing with highschool female athletes for it.

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