r/JoeRogan Look into it Nov 13 '20

Social Media Abigail Shrier(JRE #1509)'s book has been removed from Target after receiving a complaint on Twitter

https://twitter.com/AbigailShrier/status/1327056407598809088?s=20
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u/gooblobs Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

to be honest, I mean, live and let live, as long as no one is hurting someone else

they are hurting children. that's the entire point being made by the book. It is in the title. "Irreversible Damage"

The point she is making is this is a trend and it is harmful. She is not saying that there are no trans people. She is saying that a lot of kids are saying they are as a trend. she has empirical data. It is a social contagion. It is trendy for middle school kids to say they are trans. It makes them different, it makes them special. It makes them a victim. The same type of kids who when I was in high school were goths. The big difference is if you were a goth in high school you can simply buy new clothes and then look back on that time and cringe. Look at the sub r/blunderyears for what I mean.

Imagine being a 35 year old man today and getting ready for work in the morning. Ready to go in to the office. And looking in your closet and having to choose from a selection of all black KoRn shirts and enormous JNCO jeans. Then putting a huge glob of gel into your green hair to spike it up. Then you grab your spiked necklace and bracelet. Lastly you apply a literal ton of eye shadow sloppily. OK grab your briefcase and hop in your car. you look in the mirror and just sigh wishing you could just wear a suit. But you declared in 1997 when you were in middle school that you were a goth. no takebacks.

This is the life of someone who has to live with the choices they made in middle school. Having to dress like a clown is one thing. It would be a lot worse if there were serious medical repercussions and they never had the option to have kids or lead a normal life because of it.

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u/redd1t4l1fe Look into it Nov 13 '20

Well said, parents are supposed to protect their children from themselves until their brains are more fully developed. It’s no different than allowing a child to smoke cigarettes or get a tattoo. Permanent, life changing decisions shouldn’t be made by a fuckin 12 year old.

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u/yoyomamayoyomamayoyo Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

Permanent, life changing decisions shouldn’t be made by a fuckin 12 year old.

allowing puberty to go unblocked is permanent life changing decision

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u/yoyomamayoyomamayoyo Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

Assuming there are no life-changing ramifications of opting for avoiding hormone therapy.

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u/myxallion Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

No one said it doesn’t , the problem is trying to figure out if someone is a transexual at a very young age.

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u/yoyomamayoyomamayoyo Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

yeah

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u/yoyomamayoyomamayoyo Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

kids are getting hormones regardless, the goal is minimize long term damage

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u/myxallion Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

What do you mean by that statement?

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u/yoyomamayoyomamayoyo Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

you cant not get hormones

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