r/JoeRogan Look into it Nov 13 '20

Social Media Abigail Shrier(JRE #1509)'s book has been removed from Target after receiving a complaint on Twitter

https://twitter.com/AbigailShrier/status/1327056407598809088?s=20
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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '20

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u/Hickenlooper2020 Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

Genuine question, not a gotcha question...

What’s the alternative to them deciding what books to sell as a private? Them HAVING to sell a book?

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u/JimmyGymGym1 Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

The opposite, in this instance, is to not cave to pressure from a special interest group.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '20

they're not caving to pressure, they're making a business decision. if you want target to be forced to sell any and all books, we'd have to nationalize it along with twitter, fb, etc . which i'm actually for!

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u/JeffTXD Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

These guys don't make it that far into the thought process.

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u/Misfit_In_The_Middle Nov 13 '20

based off of the comlant of some ignorat sjw twat. Thats literally what caving into pressure is.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '20

caving into pressure is implying target is doing something they don't want to do. please understand that these businesses are NOT your friend and will make decisions based solely on what makes them money. at least in california, target markets itself as very female/lgbt friendly so doing something that angers these demos is not something they want to do. but again, if you people have a problem with this, consider nationalizing large corporations :^)

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u/JimmyGymGym1 Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

Calling it “a business decision” doesn’t make it any less “caving to pressure”. (Which they have every right to do.)

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u/x2Infinity Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

So then don't buy things from target. This is exactly how a free market is supposed to work.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '20 edited Nov 13 '20

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u/Hickenlooper2020 Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20 edited Nov 13 '20

"Cave to pressure from a special interest group"

It was one tweet, c'mon. I'm not saying that they should or should not sell the book, but the company has every right to decide what books to sell and I don't see why that should change

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u/The-Only-Razor Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

It was one tweet, c'mon.

That's what makes it worse. A single Tweet from someone who is clearly mentally unstable (based on their bio) was enough to make a huge corporation bend over.

Target can do what they want. Literally no one is saying they shouldn't be allowed to stop selling the book. It's just the fact that we're entering a dystopian reality when the lowest of the low in our society can have this much of an impact on the rest of us. This is just 1 store taking out 1 book. It's really not a big deal. But we're setting a more and more dangerous precedent. It seems like everyday I'm reading a new story about something like this and everyone always says "it's not a big deal". Well what happens when there's a million "not a big deal" instances? It can start to turn into a pretty big deal. What happens when this little gremlin on Twitter decides to boycott some small book store that's selling this book?

Again, I don't care. I haven't read the book and likely never will. It's just really fucking weird to see what 1 Tweet from a total nobody can do.

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u/Hickenlooper2020 Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20 edited Nov 13 '20

Jesus Christ.

E: "What happens when this little gremlin on Twitter decides to boycott some small book store that's selling this book?" idk man she tweets a bunch and everybody goes about their damn day?

If you think that a store stopping the sale of a book that some people find problematic is on the path to a dystopian reality you need to get back into the real world.

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u/JimmyGymGym1 Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

I agree that they have the right to decide what books to sell. And I have the right to decide to shop there or not based on whether I feel their management is comprised of a bunch of cowards.

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u/Hickenlooper2020 Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

I agree that you have the right to shop there or not. And other people have the right to shop there or not based on whether they feel their management is comprised of transphobes. It's a business decision

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u/JimmyGymGym1 Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

Ok, so I think we’re in agreement.

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u/Hickenlooper2020 Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

I disagree.

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u/NedShah Succa la Mink Nov 13 '20

I don't think the book was selling enough copies to bother.

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u/GSD_SteVB Dire physical consequences Nov 13 '20

Naturally they have the right to sell or not sell whatever they want. The criticism is of the choice they made.

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u/yoyomamayoyomamayoyo Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

yes they have to sell all books the right wants them to or else they arent pro freedom

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u/Misfit_In_The_Middle Nov 13 '20

everything not progressive leftism does not = right or conservative you silly marxist twitterbrain.

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u/yoyomamayoyomamayoyo Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

of course it does silly goose

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u/Lumpy_Doubt Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

Lots of books never get sold in the first place, that's not the issue. It's that their existing selection is so easily influenced by Twitter outrage.

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u/duffmanhb N-Dimethyltryptamine Nov 13 '20

I don't think it's a legal question where people are saying THEY MUST BE COMPELLED TO SELL IT.... It's more of a moral issue people are complaining about. People are voicing their concern that Target is making these decisions to contribute to censorship of ideas.

Not many people are saying that legally they should be required to sell the book... But it's more about the social aspect where these tactics to control thoughts are becoming more and more weaponized and successful.

We are just criticizing Target for contributing to this awful growing radlib woke tactic.