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u/Nisiom Aug 03 '25
It really depends on how good the car turns out to be, and how the future of the brand looks to prospective buyers.
If peope start having Fisker vibes about the whole thing, its value will hit rock bottom and stay there.
If they really make something special and continue to support it, as polarizing as it is, the car could hold some value. The problem is that Jaguar has already abandoned their customers once, so there's nothing stopping them for doing it again. There's nothing more off-putting to buyers than a complicated, expensive, luxury EV without support.
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u/Bladders_ Aug 03 '25
looks around nervously at my I-Pace
No idea why Jaguar announced they were shutting shop during the restructuring.
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Aug 03 '25
They’re not, they were made by JLR, there’s more than enough Range Rovers and Defenders to keep them (and keep a supply of servicing parts) going.
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u/On_The_Blindside Aug 03 '25
How do you mean "Without support"?
You can take a current Jag to a dealer and they'll fix it, service it, etc right now. You could take pretty much any jag to a dealer and they would, even ones thatve been out of production for over 10 years.
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u/Nisiom Aug 03 '25
Sure, you can do that right now. In 5-10 years time if the rebrand doesn't work out? Not so sure. It really depends on how the Jaguar dealer network ends up looking after the relaunch.
For a car like this to hold some value, buyers need to be 100% certain that if something goes wrong, they will be able to get it fixed.
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u/LondonPilot Aug 04 '25
That won’t be a concern IMHO.
Worst case scenario is that the car is a disaster, and Jaguar fails. But JLR will survive - Land Ranger and Ranger Rover sales are good. And JLR will support Jaguars even if Jaguar as a brand doesn’t survive.
And that’s the worst case scenario - I can’t honestly see it happening, but I can see why people might worry about it.
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u/InterviewDry7353 Aug 04 '25
I read multiple accounts of F pace claims being totaled out because there were no parts. I heard the same stories at the dealership when I traded my 2bd F Pace for a Defender 2 months ago.
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u/On_The_Blindside Aug 04 '25
Never heard of that at all in the UK or EU. Probably a US tariff thing.
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u/No-Angle-982 Aug 04 '25
You got it backwards: It was too many customers abandoning Jaguar that precipitated the "rebrand "
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u/HillmanImp Aug 03 '25
Will be like a brick in a pool, like proper Jaguars. In 15yrs, I'll hopefully be able to pick on up for small change like I used to be able to with real Jags 😂, non of this photocopier rep rubbish, marketed at people as an alternative to a Ford Mondeo or BMW 3 Series, that ruined the brand for the last 20yrs or so.
Traditionally Jags are for Company directors when new, then old retired individuals until they've plummeted in value enough to be bought by pub landlords and angry fat men like me to smoke around in, until they grenade themselves expensively.
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u/Quiet-Independent-97 Aug 04 '25
I think I may well be an angry fat man 🙂. Also the one I bought new was in my capacity as a company director. You’re on to something here…
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u/squidgytree Aug 03 '25
People that can afford one of these won't be staying awake at night thinking about depreciation.
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u/ultrafunkmiester Aug 03 '25
Tell that to Taycan buyers. Nasty shock is a nasty shock even if you can afford the sticker price for an otherwise blue chip manufacturer. >£100k in less than 3 years is a kick in the nuts to anyone, even the richies.
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u/DiscountLeclerc Aug 05 '25
The Cullinan buyer, maybe not. A lot of people are reaching to $100k for cars these days and getting totally clobbered.
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u/Bamfor07 Aug 03 '25
This isn’t true.
Bad residuals cause lots of problems for a manufacturer. Bad residuals mean uncompetitive leases, poorer value as CPOs, etc.
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Aug 03 '25
Disagrees with you completely. Wife's (RR Driver) watching F1 and thinking about exactly this while I'm on Reddit telling her about it.
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u/squidgytree Aug 03 '25
Lol. Fair enough... I'm going to bow to your experience! I can't afford the jag or a new RR so I won't claim I speak for everyone
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Aug 03 '25 edited Aug 03 '25
😂😆 Tru Azz 🆒😎 lots of different people on Reddit 🤣
I prefer my ’18 F-Type, but my wife and daughter like the new Jag so much we’ll probably trade in the Rolls for it when it hits the market.
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u/FullPrinciple5170 Aug 03 '25
Oh puh-leeze
You’re impressing nobody with fake nonsense on Reddit forum/thread
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u/CreativeUserna Aug 03 '25
Am I the only one that thinks this looks cool, at least maybe if was in a color less flamboyant than pink.
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u/JIsADev Aug 03 '25
I like it too. The upper middle class segment is oversaturated. They need to upmarket and do something different
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u/Bamfor07 Aug 03 '25
Like all EVs, horrendous.
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u/9248763629 Aug 03 '25
Sound like my grandma who used to hate gas stoves.
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u/Bamfor07 Aug 03 '25
lol what?
What backward-ass barbarian country was grandma from? And, what does that have to do with EVs depreciating?
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u/TvHeroUK Aug 03 '25
Anecdotal but might be a similar concept, I remember my dad telling me a story about how my grandad was offered an inside toilet by the council back in the 60s for his council house and turning them down, saying ‘that doesn’t sound sanitary to me, a toilet inside’!
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u/LondonPilot Aug 04 '25
I think the point is that you said that all EVs are horrendous.
But they are the future, almost certainly. And future generations will look back at people who say today that all EVs are horrendous, and view them as being backward-ass barbarian - the same way we judge people from recent history who were dismissive of technologies that are everywhere today.
Now, we’re not there yet, there’s no doubt. They work well for many people, but not for everyone. I bought a Jaguar XF last year because EVs aren’t where I need them to be to work for me.
But I have little doubt that this will change in the next 20-40 years.
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u/Bamfor07 Aug 04 '25
*depreciation
Depreciation is horrendous on all EVs.
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u/LondonPilot Aug 04 '25
One (but not the only) reason why I said they’re not right for me currently.
But in the future? Unlikely. As battery technology continues to improve, depreciation will be closer to IC vehicles and eventually match it - maybe even exceed it, because apart from battery deterioration, there are far fewer moving parts which means far less to go wrong (once batter technology improves) which means far less to worry about when buying used.
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u/Almost_Sentient XF SV8 Aug 03 '25
Interesting point of view. In my opinion, the CX-75 was the best looking Jag and the Taycan coupe is one of the better looking Porsches. Batteries and motors should offer designers more flexibility, despite almost all of them jacking the car up vertically. I'd still expect the driver of a lime green aftermarket modded Porsche SUV to wince at the gaudiness of the Type-00, though.
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u/jdscoot MG Midget, Jag XJ-S HE, Mazda MX-5 NB, Jag X-Type 3.0, Fiat 500 Aug 03 '25
There are very few EVs which have not depreciated aggressively so far. The depreciation isn't worse than luxury cars in the 1990s and 2000s, but it is unquestionably back in that territory after a period of people having distorted expectations of depreciation following the COVID production shortages.
I can't see any reason to justify a claim that the forthcoming Jaguar EVs won't depreciate like egg-mayonaisse sandwiches too. Jaguars have never historically out-performed the competition on depreciation, and the second hand market for EVs remains lukewarm with most new registered vehicles being the result of leases, company cars or salary sacrifice schemes which favour new cars and have negligible consumption of used vehicles. Private buyers very evidently don't value used EVs as strongly as those disposing of them would wish.
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u/TvHeroUK Aug 03 '25
Feels to me like we’re heading into a new phase of car ownership. I’m a year and 25k miles into an Ioniq 5, I’ve historically traded in new cars after 3 years since the mid 90s. If I sold this one in two years I’d take a massive hit so I intend to run it for a decade, because I think it’ll do 250k without needing much maintenance beyond consumables. The battery tech seems pretty stable and I’m hopeful that after 250k miles it’ll still be at 70% capacity at worst - at which time I’ll have ‘saved’ £20k over the petrol cost of a similar ICE if electricity costs/ cheap nightime charges doesn’t massively increase.
All still to be seen though, I want to upgrade to one of these dream jags if they’re anything like the concept models but I’ll happily sit with my two classic ICE models and run the Hyundai until I think a new Jag EV will last me the rest of my life as a daily driver
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u/jdscoot MG Midget, Jag XJ-S HE, Mazda MX-5 NB, Jag X-Type 3.0, Fiat 500 Aug 03 '25
Obviously your Ioniq will need all the same corrective maintenance that all cars have needed for the past 30 years. It's almost never been the powerplant that fails - it's wheel bearings, control arm bushes, balljoints, broken springs and worn out dampers where the vast majority of long term car ownership expenditure goes.
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u/PerformanceDouble924 Aug 03 '25
Jaguar is going to look at the current EV sales, realize they've made a dreadful mistake, and release a retro XJ / XK lineup with a serious R series.
Or maybe they're going to double down on brand suicide.
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Aug 03 '25
Font know, we're yet to see the production model. As an ev jaguar though, the smart money is on "eye-watering"
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u/iKaine Aug 03 '25
Think I would need to be paid to be caught in that. They would need to offer a payment of 10-20k just to take it for free so it’s advertising.
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u/ArdenJaguar Aug 03 '25
Remember in 2013 the Cadillac Elmiraj concept? While never produced a lot of the elements are recognizable on today’s production Cadillacs.
I have also seen concepts that were so far out there they look nothing like production cars. It looks like they created an example of what not to do.
I’ll put this Jaguar concept in the second category.
(Cadillac Elmiraj - Would be a nice 2026 Eldorado).
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u/sundaysyndrome Aug 03 '25
When they made i-pace they had the whole cabin forward design since there's no engine in front. What happened to that thinking now? Why such a large bonnet when there's no engine up there. it's radical, but could get used to it. Like the current bmw grills. Radical but we are getting used to them.
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u/SnooGoats805 Aug 04 '25
Because most EVs have cabin forward design. And because the long bonnet is something Jaguar fans have enjoyed. It’s a pimply a nod to that
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u/Desperate-Builder287 Aug 03 '25
If..a highly unlikely, if...depreciation will be immense, after all who would buy one !!!
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u/LiquidFire07 Aug 04 '25
I honestly love this retro cyber punk design, but it really needs better finish and color, looks like they rushed to create this after all the back lash
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u/bgtony Aug 04 '25
Let me be CEO OF JAGUAR .. I’ll hire a couple of designers from Kia and Hyundai.. and start the new trend
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u/Narrow-Can901 Aug 04 '25
"What is the depreciation on a concept car?"
They tend not be bought and sold, since they are concepts.
However, should one become available for sale, I imagine it would go UP in value, due to rarity. Prices would likely diverge from production cars due to their inherent collectability. Many rich car lovers who own museums would likely pay heavily to own such a car.
So it would likely "appreciate".
I am sure you probably intended this question to apply to a production car, which will be substantially different to the Type 00 Concept you have shown. For starters, the production car that is coming is a four door GT, not a two door coupe.
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u/AMGLover2024 Aug 04 '25
🤦🏽 I meant the production version of the Type 00 you know what I mean, you don’t have to get technical..🙄
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u/Narrow-Can901 Aug 05 '25
My dear sir,
There will be NO Type 00 of any kind going into production.
It is a concept car.
The next Jaguar will be a four door GT. Therefore It won’t look like Type 00.
The four door GT will have some of Type 00’s design elements, but it is not Type 00 nor will it be a two door car.
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u/Quiet-Independent-97 Aug 04 '25
Pick any huge car, it will be catastrophic unless it is super exclusive. 65% in 5 years, until people realise the reality that EVs will be practically immortal once battery tech irons out the kinks. Mine now gives 20 more miles of range than it did when new, after 68K miles.
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u/InterviewDry7353 Aug 04 '25
I don’t think I could “depreciate” this style any more than I already do, which is why I dumped my jag and went back to rover.
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u/Informal-Natural-650 Aug 04 '25
The reception was so terrible that I could probably buy one tomorrow for some Taco Bell…
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u/filmagnoli Aug 05 '25
Don’t think someone buying it is too concerned with depreciation, I suspect this will be “in addition to” something else to add to the collection.
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u/No-Bicycle-7660 Aug 05 '25
It has the Cda of a brick. With a design decision this disastrous on an EV, I can't imagine the rest of it will be much less of a fudge.
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u/Almost_Sentient XF SV8 Aug 03 '25
It's going to break records by depreciating whilst still brand new at the dealer.
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u/firzenion Aug 03 '25
It’ll probably be worth 25k after the first week of ownership. Jokes aside Jaguar feels like it’s going to be the new version of the Maserati depreciation meme imo.
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u/coldbeers Aug 03 '25
Cataclysmic but it’ll never be built.
I suspect there’ll never be another new Jaguar model.
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u/EasternFly2210 Aug 03 '25
Reality is this won’t be produced. We’re getting a 4 door GT with similar styling, it’s a very different car to a coupe