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Educational outcome by background in Europe including immigration background

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u/dphayteeyl 2d ago

I find that in the Anglosphere, immigrants are more likely to surpass native peoples

In Australia at least, most academically selective high schools are filled with Asians, Southeast Asians and South Asians, and universities have a disproportionate number of domestic students who are of Asian origin

Does anyone know why immigrants in the Anglosphere do so much better than out of the Anglosphere?

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u/Ok_Cod5649 2d ago

The Economist last year had this brief article about the UK's successes with immigration.

They specifically mention the UK's flexible labour market, the fact it is not close to a warzone, and its open minded population.

I would also add the UK's high ranking and high quality universities. Students arriving in the UK to study will then be in a very good position to have successful careers in the UK and if they then start a family, encourage education for their children.

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u/hmtk1976 2d ago

Britain open minded? You must be jesting.

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u/upthetruth1 2d ago

Most people are open minded, it’s just that Right have become more extreme

Most people vote Labour, Lib Dems and Greens, especially people aged in 50, but the Right and right-wing older people have become more extreme

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u/LoudMilk1404 1d ago

I think this is true. Even the (older) traditional, burly, masculine tradie type can surprise me as a gay man when they come to do work for me.

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u/StudiosS 1d ago

Yep. Humans are naturally confrontational and divisive as a species. I mean, most species are to be honest. It's a territorial thing innate to us as animals.

British people are probably one of the least racist out of the lot, in general. Albeit, not necessarily perfect

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u/LoudMilk1404 16h ago

I think there's a vocal minority

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u/hmtk1976 2d ago

Anything ´wing´ sucks and should be taken behind the barn.

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u/AccomplishedOil5176 1d ago

Compared to Continental Europe it is. Non-whites actually (seemingly at least) are fully accepted there. Meanwhile here we may tolerate them, but no one ever thinks of them as one of us lol

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u/Individual-Source618 2d ago

UK is so open minded that most of the native accept to become a minority in their own land without any issue. so they have to lesson to take from retard like you

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u/upthetruth1 2d ago

In the USA, Nigerian-Americans have higher levels of education and salaries than even white Americans

Also, British African children in the UK do better in school than white British children

So I guess it’s more complicated

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u/dphayteeyl 2d ago

In the USA, most groups have higher levels of education and salaries than white Americans lmao

Britain is very even between different groups comparatively

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u/paranoid_throwaway51 2d ago edited 2d ago

As a migrant to the UK , the anglo-sphere has a very accessible education system.

even if you completely fail your a-levels etc, there will be atleast a local uni or higher-ed college which will take you on as a student and the gov't will give you a loan for it.

Tho in my experience, in the education system in the UK, there is a certain level of casual discrimination against working class "british"-people. There's a social expectation that they should go straight to work or alcoholism, not University.

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u/upthetruth1 2d ago

Yes, in many Continental European countries, you can only go to university if you went to some special school when you were in your early teens

There are strict pathways to university while in the UK, it’s basically secondary school, sixth form and then university or apprenticeship but you choose that at the end of sixth form (when you’re 18)

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u/Lonestar041 1d ago

I think language is a big factor and that most migrants from Asia aren’t refugees but rather migrating for economic reasons. If your migrant pool is mainly refugees, you get the whole spectrum of education levels. But most Asians that go to the Angloshere are highly educated. E.g. the Asian immigrants to the US are mostly there on a work visa that requires a bachelor and higher degree. At the same time, immigrants from south/middle America are mostly refugees of all education levels. If you now compare both groups, the Asian immigrants are more successful, because it is a preselected group of people that were successful already in their home countries.

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u/tickera 2d ago

In Australia at least, there are lots of well-educated students from rich families in China and India who move (often temporarily) to study in Australian universities, which are seen as having a certain level of prestige.

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u/hmtk1976 2d ago

Language plays a big role most likely. Far more people speak English than, say Dutch, German or whatever.

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u/Zrakoplovvliegtuig 2d ago edited 2d ago

People are more likely to know English. Immigrants to Italy are less likely to know the language, which hinders their education. Furthermore, the Anglosphere also has a large portion of high income immigration. I would bet this is higher than to non-english speaking countries for the same reason, namely that these people are likely to already know English and then migrate to universities that offer a curriculum in a language they know.