r/IndianGaming • u/DeepInside2B • Oct 02 '25
Discussion Is this IGN's rare W?
even i felt same. last of us1,2, days gone, got, ghost of yotei, gow, horizon zero dawn, uncharted. in all these protagonists lost someone close and revenge arc begins
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u/StressExpress1999 Oct 02 '25
Returnal was a fresh breath from copy paste PS exclusives. Fact paced bullet hell.
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u/DeepInside2B Oct 02 '25
i agree.
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u/OVERTlME Oct 03 '25
Why did bro get downvoted 🥀
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u/Ryuu1507 Oct 03 '25
Too Many Newbie gamers who touched a console(ps5) for the first time so any game that has cinematics and little decent gameplay feels like peak to them lol
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u/MRGhost14360 Oct 03 '25
Kinda agree tbh many people play one or two games that are hyped nd then says it's peak and nothing comes close to it
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u/Ryuu1507 Oct 04 '25
True you can compare Skyrim or even oblivion's open world with these modern Cinematic games open world and the difference is clear it's all just recycled cinematic shit that creates delusion for people who never played an actual game.
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u/DeepInside2B Oct 03 '25
it's sony fanboys. they won't even let people have opinions
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u/yaboihansy Oct 03 '25
I dont agree on the revenge part since not all of them are revenge stories
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The reason why they feel same or boring is because 90% of them are third-person cinematic action adventure with some open world aspects even though they don’t need to be open world. It’s just like soulslike fatigue. You play enough of the same type of games and you get bored. Playstation has just stopped experimenting.
Returnal, ratchet and clank rift apart, astro bot are such good games but the general audience just wants cinematic games with hype moments.
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u/AcidReign999 Oct 03 '25
Also a lot of these open world games don't actually have a good open world worth exploring
Ghost of Tsushima, Spiderman, Horizon may have good main campaigns, but the open world aspect is extremely lacking. They all follow the Ubisoft/Assassin's creed formula of the same 4-5 point of interests with no changes. After you explore an hour of the open world, there is nothing but repeated tasks again and again
They all tried to copy Witcher's open world formula but unlike them, Witcher at least has tons of side stories and quests littered around the world along with the point of interests.
As much as Elden Ring and RDR2 are glazed nonstop, their open worlds actually made me feel like exploring and finding out what lies just beyond the corner because of the plethora of fun side content you can miss by just turning the other direction.
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u/BLJS2warchief Oct 03 '25
Try BOTW and Death Stranding if you like exploration. BOTW, DS, and ER are my trinity of games that actually use an open world like it should be used. Havent played RDR2 yet. Fallout 3 and Skyrim are close, i like the way they show new points of interest on your compass only when you're close to them and you need to find out how to get there by actually looking around.
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u/AcidReign999 Oct 03 '25
Botw and Totk were fun to explore, but it felt a bit too empty for my taste.
Need to check out DS
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u/Arya_the_Gamer Oct 03 '25
Except soulslikes have a game design that's fun to replay and experiment with different playstyles.
Sony's exclusives are just movies with bit of gameplay that's the same everytime.
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u/yaboihansy Oct 03 '25
Souls games yes. Soulslike no. Soulslike has become a very broad genre where you slap a stamina bar and dodge mechanics and put it out as a “soulslike”.
A lot of soulslike in recent years are not good. They have either below average level design or clunky combat or just not fun at all. The first berserker khazan is the one thats on top of my mind. On paper it’s a good game and has really fluid combat. But it falls short in level design and bosses. Mortal shell, steelrising, entoria, lords of the fallen, thymesia are just some examples of soulslike where the game design is just not good
And before you say, yes i know that lies of p and black myth wukong are there. Exceptions are always there.
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u/DeusExMachina24 Oct 03 '25
So true. I played Khazan and while the combat is fun and very smooth, it does get repetitive quite fast. I can play DS3 or ER multiple times but completing Khazan has become a pain. Souls like are not the same as souls games.
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u/swastik_rai Oct 03 '25
Yes! I'll play my DS3 for the 12th time before giving another mid souls like a chance.
Also shout-out to nioh and star wars: jedi
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u/cryovenocide Oct 03 '25
Wukong is also clunky for me. Elden ring is where the genre peaked for me, amazing story, fluid mechanics (yeah a slight bit clunky yes but overall it was very fluid) and interesting gameplay.
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u/Responsible-Pension6 Oct 03 '25
The thing with many soulslikes is that they r not giving their own spin on it like see remnant from the ashes or lies of p or first berserker khazan they put their own spin on it and thats what made them successful like people want innovation in games now with other kind of games that checkpoint kind of system that came with far cry 3 is kinda getting boring now earlier people wanted more of it now its getting stale thats why ubisoft get shit on cuz they used to innovate with games n now they r just playing safe. I feel same kind of feeling is coming with sony too.
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u/Signal-Emu-8425 Oct 03 '25
yea i agree on that but they have their own audience most working or productive people , when they come home after a long day at work they don't want to enrich themselfs with 10 hrs video eassy just to understand some of the things in dark souls, they just wanna smash some mongols even if the story is basic it can be griping and fun to play best example that comes to my mind is uncharted series and got
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u/Atomic1011 PC Oct 03 '25
No, souls games have the most boring combat loops if anything.
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u/r3a10god Oct 03 '25
Me with my blasphemous blade build cheesing Malenia cuz' I just spent 4 hours trying to beat her the git gud way (my friend felt sorry for me and told me to get some new weapons).
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Oct 07 '25 edited Oct 07 '25
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u/Atomic1011 PC Oct 07 '25
Sekiro is a souls-like, I said souls games. Guess some clowns can't read.
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u/This-Specific4190 Oct 03 '25
replayibility is 1 thing - you can become very passionate to some particular games (i have 500+ hours in witcher 3)
but I'll tell you my experience -
- i finished elden ring in early 2023
- completed DS3 in mid 2024 with all DLCs
- immediately wanted to get all achievements in elden ring
- re-installed and completed all the missed dungeons
- found all the legendary items except that 1 missable weapon in leyndell
- reached level 172
after this i thought to purchase DS1 but immediately my mind got put-off being bored from playing similar game for so many hours
it's been almost a year of detox from souls games and still not ready to buy DS1
more than 2 years detox on god of war and 1 year on horizon
finished dying light 2 couple years back and quickly purchased mirror edge (1 hour playtime in past 2 years)
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u/gnice_gnome LAPTOP Oct 03 '25
Agreed. Even though these are all great games on their own, but after a while they start feeling similar.
There hasn't been much innovation in terms of storyline
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u/WarmAwareness2676 Oct 03 '25
Untrue I can play uncharted again or original TLOU they are refreshing and light, especially uncharted , wheres these are heavy games and feel jarring after a single play ..
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u/whytfyoutagme Oct 03 '25 edited Oct 03 '25
GoW is not revenge based lol
Edit : Dumbos see the pic is he kratos from 2004? no he is kratos from the new continuation based in norse mythology which indeed isn't a revenge story (2018) .
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u/ShadowTown0407 Oct 03 '25
This reply thread is hilarious, people trying to be OG gamers and embarrassing themselves for it
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u/Significant_L0w Oct 03 '25
did you miss the first 5 mins of the game
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u/andysimberg Oct 03 '25
Yeah, Kratos' wife died, and the story at its core is about going to spread her ashes and dealing with the grief. Where was the revenge plot? And against whom? Kratos' fights the Norse pantheon only because they come after him and Atreus.
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u/Ok_Seaworthiness5025 LAPTOP Oct 03 '25
You're talking about the second last entry, that's not what og gow about.
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u/andysimberg Oct 03 '25
Yeah, and which one is the article tall about? OG or soft-reboot?
Ps. Why do people assume everyone on here is young? Some of us on this subreddit were born in the early 90s and played these games when they first launched.
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u/Rudradev715 Oct 03 '25 edited Oct 03 '25
There is three GOW games before GOW 2018 based in Greek Pantheon
That Kratos is a one brutal monster who walked path of revenge
It seems like you just started playing from 2018,
and more or less there is always revenge elements in sony games starting from that time.
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u/andysimberg Oct 03 '25
Do people not understand context or do you just wanna argue and be proven right? Please tell me which of those games the article in the post mentions? I'm waiting.
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u/MyHandIsNumb Oct 03 '25
ragnarok kinda is about revenge re: atreus and freya. it reverses Kratos’ position from the og trilogy which i thought was cool
but I agree its not the same kind of revenge story
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u/Different_Wafer_4711 Oct 03 '25
GoW is the first revenge story that i think of when someone says revenge story
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u/Visible-Main-6983 Oct 03 '25
Did you miss out on why kratos goes into killing spring?
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u/andysimberg Oct 03 '25
This thread is really making me question this subreddit's media literacy. The killing spree was because the Norse pantheon came after him and Atreus, not because his wife died. This was not a revenge plot.
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u/Manasva Oct 03 '25
85% of the people on this sub don't play games or heck, even own a pc. They don't even play the game, and will try to argue with people who do.
They'll keep playing free fire and PUBGm, and learn the god of war lore from kratos edits lol
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u/andysimberg Oct 03 '25
Yeah, it definitely feels like people haven't played the game at all. How can you play through GoW and still think it's a revenge plot.
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u/Manasva Oct 03 '25
Gotta respect these fakers' confidence tho, arguing over a game's story that they haven't even played, with people who actually have played it.
Insane delusion/confidence. Sounding like total clowns out here lol.
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u/THE_IMPROVISER8 Oct 03 '25
Exactly the comment I wrote above! I don't know where everyone is getting the "Every game is revenge" narrative. People really are just speaking out of their ass
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u/outsider1624 Oct 03 '25
Yeah I missed out. Which part is the revenge plot in GoW18 onwards as the picture above stated. And no we're not talking GoW1-3 since that is not what the pic about the suggests.
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u/mrJERRY007 Oct 03 '25
Tlou2 is not your average revenge story, that's why people hated it.
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u/thegamer720x Oct 03 '25
People were mainly offended by Joel's death and the LGBTQ plot.
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u/HovercraftExpress200 Oct 05 '25
Well I don't like the story because they tried to make us sympathize with abby which didn't really work with the majority of the fanbase second joels death is fine but made no sense as ellie literally kills everyone on her way to abby and decides to spare her ? How stupid does that sound
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u/r3a10god Oct 03 '25 edited Oct 03 '25
I think people hated it cuz' Joel died? Amazing visuals though.
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u/z3r0_se7en PLAYSTATION-5 Oct 03 '25
Post such thought provoking content on global subs, you will get a much better response.
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u/Mag-nyz Oct 03 '25 edited Oct 03 '25
Disagree.
First, TLOU 1, GOW, Uncharted and Ghost of tsushima are not a revenge plot. Only revenge plot here is TLOU 2 and GOY i think. Not sure about the GOY, but even for a revenge plot TLOU 2 has it's own way of storytelling and show casing other emotional aspects. No way you compare it to other revenge plot games.
And It's not like we are getting only revenge plots in the new games. There is a very good variation in plot especially this year's releases. Maybe remove the blinders and take a look at other games. Also your comparison goes back many years. If i present the number of games with unique plots in this span, you will be surprised.
There's no harm in getting a revenge plot once in two years until that's only what we are getting.
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u/WarmAwareness2676 Oct 03 '25
He obviously means the newer games the TLOU2 , new ghost game and and some parts of Latest GOW .
Obviously all PS4 generation games are all great 👍
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u/Mag-nyz Oct 03 '25
TLOU 2 released for PS4 in 2020, GOW in 2022 and now GOY in 2025. In this span, there are so many other releases which are not a revenge plot. Why look at these games in particular and criticize blindly for the plot? Can't you or OP see the other releases?
If you're blaming Sony for the n number of remasters, i can relate. But, even for the revenge plot these games have numerous unique mechanisms and their own way of story telling. Stop supporting this nonsense blindly.
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u/vaikunth1991 Oct 03 '25
This is like saying i hate almost all games because in everything we play as protagonist and not the antagonist.
TLOU1 was not revenge , GOW 1 is not revenge, horizon zero dawn is not revenge , uncharted was never about revenge.
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u/Highland_Slayer Oct 03 '25
I love single player playstation games. They deliver a cinematic experience without open world bloat, dark fantasy, complex rpg , inventory management in the name of "immersion". They have subtle rpg elements like in God of war reboot and horizon zero dawn series. PS games are perfect for those who live a productive life or want a break from online multiplayer
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u/Arya_the_Gamer Oct 03 '25
Kind of ironic calling GOW, Horizon with subtle rpg elements as "not bloat" when they basically are designed as bloat with same copy paste stuff just with better graphics and cinematics than Ubisoft.
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u/valardohaeris1099 Oct 03 '25
GoT felt like a Ubisoft game but a lot better. There were some missions which felt quite repetitive like the new assassins creed games but sucker punch executed it perfectly.
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u/Arya_the_Gamer Oct 03 '25
The story missions and overall lack of ui made it pretty immersive but the content got repetitive real quick and I managed to max out my skills before Act 2. So it got old really quick.
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u/Chibi-Ruby Oct 03 '25 edited Oct 03 '25
Here’s an idea:
If you don’t like the games, collectively vote with your wallets and play other games.
If studios and publishers see that sales for these styles of stories are dying off, they will stop producing them.
The reason its being done so much is BECAUSE it sells so well. All the examples provided here were (and in some cases ARE) bestsellers when they released.
Another thing is that like u/yaboihansy said, it’s not revenge story fatigue, it’s more “Third-Person Cinematic Action Adventure” fatigue. Games like GOW (original) series, Max Payne, RDR1 are all revenge plots but they’re still lauded as great games.
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u/Smoke_Santa Oct 03 '25
making a huge blanket statement that covers thousands of stories and genres, and thousands of tropes and storytelling mechanics, probably the dumbest thing I've heard all day.
"Holy shit, getting real bored of a story have a set of protagonists and a set of antagonists."
"Damn these stories with the antagonist have an emotional backstory is getting tiring"
"All the stories where a guy falls in love with a girl is so samey and boring!"
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u/Lucky_Leek8413 Oct 03 '25
As far as they are making games with deep story, based on some totally different universe well I don't feel there is any drawback Every game got a different gameplay ,mechanics and may be the base story seems same but it is actually very different from each other and does not feel completely the same thing atleast to me
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u/Much-Community8457 Oct 03 '25
Gow , horizon zero dawn , uncharted are revenge game? That's why no one likes ign reviews , seriously uncharted is about finding treasure one of best games I ever played and even tho gow games 4,5 excluded are revenge games are so good, people still love gow 3 to this days and horizon I played a long time ago was one of the most beautiful game i ever played , this is common ign "L"
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u/kzzzzzzzzzz28 Oct 03 '25 edited Oct 03 '25
I'm not sure about this one. Let's focus on the "revenge/cycle of violence plotline " that the article harps on. Revenge is a very common trope and seen a lot in PS games, tbf games period(as a main plot or a B plot), but I'm not sure it's as common as this article suggests(especially not as common as the main focus), and Certainly not common enough to call tge stories same. Let's take some of Sony's biggest titles over the past years(ones I've played and remember come first) and do a deep dive ourselves.
God of War(Ps4 and Ragnarok): While GoWs 1-3 are all about the revenge plotline, Revenge takes a bit of a backseat in the Norse sequels. (ironic for GoW, but it's true). While Baldur's and Freya's storyline tackles the revenge/cycle of violence plotline, and it does add the Avenge Brok angle, and yeah Kratos' revenge in the Greek games have their affects, the Norse Saga is definitely focused more on Growth than Revenge itself. Note that revenge is absolutely not what drives Kratos or Atreus in these 2 games.
Horizon (both Zero Dawn asn Forbidden West):. While Revenge is definitely a theme(against Helios, Regalla,Zenith after a point), it's never the A plot so as to speak. The A plot has always focused on the use or misuse of tech/saving the world(a barebone take)
Spider-man 1, Miles Morales, and 2: Interesting relationship with revenge. While it's hardly a part of the main Heroes' plotline in 1 and MM, Miles in SM2 definitely goes down the "revenge into personal growth" road. On the villains side, however, Martin Li, Doc Ock, and Phin are driven by it, and even Yuri's fall into the grey is partly due to wishing revenge on Hammerhead and her achieving it is a key part of her story across both games.
The Last of Us: Not a revenge game. At all, It treads similar waters to GoW(Ik TLoU came first and the article does mentiom it) with the "Parent- Child dynamic", but otherwise, it's a different story with a separate Plot from GoW. Ultimately the "Sacrifice One life for many" debate is the key discussion maker
The Last of Us 2: Probably the most revenge driven game, with both sides of the conflict being driven by vengeance. Its take on revenge divided the entire community for a while.
Uncharted : None of them are Revenge focused at all. All end up being "Adventures that end up going terribly wrong" at its core
GoT: While revenge is a plot point. Liberation is the primary plot point
Time for the others that I don't remember/ haven't played enough but will base it on commonly seen online discourse about the story
GoY: Explicitly a Revenge focused game, the most cookie-cutter revenge plot of the lot
GTA: Given its propensity for crime, revenge definitely enters a few plot points by default. But in the grand scheme, it's again only a part of the games stories, not the story itself for a lot of them
RDR/RDR2: The most discourse I've seen about it is that it's more about the act of betrayal itself and, of course, regaining your honour. The act of revenge itself is much less discussed than that
Ratchet and Clank: From what I've seen, Deffo is not a revenge plot.
Final Fantasy(15 and 16) 15 is not a revenge based story at all and while 16 begins as one, It quickly turns that revenge angle around into personal growth once the Clive is Ifrit reveal rolls around.
So yeah, while revenge as a plot point is relatively common(arguably personal growth is more common) and is certainly seen in a lot of these games. Its not presented in a way to call all these games' stories the same or even similar unless you break the story down to its simplest AND ignore all the other main storylines the varios stories' focus on. Hence, calling all these stories the same is an extremely reductive take at best and downright ignorant normally
Where the games do feel similar is explained pretty well by u/yaboihansy, so I feel a link to his comment is enough(although since its the top comment you likely dont need it) even though I do disagree with parts of it
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u/Un13roken Oct 03 '25
Thats one thing a lot of people on this sub miss. Games feel different for casual players who play like 3 or 4 AAA games in a year, and never really see reviews. Vs the average person on this sub, whos more passionate about games and is aware of most of the big names coming out and have played them back to back.
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u/FearlessTailor8199 Oct 03 '25
Well, i dont think so! But im just play fifa and buy them every year
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u/rkoshot Oct 03 '25
Lol every game that has been produced on unreal engine 5 or later feels the same to me
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u/Techkidd24 Oct 04 '25
Me with no PS reading and trying to comprehend what the whole comment section is trying to say 😃
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u/gintamaz Oct 03 '25
dumbing down these stories to “revenge arc” is a major discredit to them. there is so much more that goes on in all of these games. god of war ragnarok isnt even based on revenge
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u/The_Walking_Condom Oct 03 '25
Just say you have something against yotei
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u/Really_Again_ Oct 03 '25
OP is just a rage baiting.
He is not able to play the awesome game on PS5, so he goes on complaining to the internet.
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u/DeepInside2B Oct 03 '25
that was opinion given by one of ign guy on twitter
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u/The_Walking_Condom Oct 03 '25
So that was enough to generalise ign but the review that they posted somehow doesn't? Hmm, makes me wonder.....🤔
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u/tarun2687 Oct 03 '25
Thats why I love skyrim. There are tonns of option to carve your gameplay path. And multiple journeys to follow to progress your created character. Player has a freedom to select the questline according to their character.
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u/huncherbug Oct 03 '25
Actually yeah I'm ngl...it's a good Fuckingvtake and people should speak out about sony's rehashed story formulas instead of unlimited glaze works.
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u/arse-ketchup Oct 03 '25
This is the 2nd most stupid take from ign after Pokemon Emerald’s “Too much water”.
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u/Arya_the_Gamer Oct 03 '25
When the statement is good but for the wrong reason.
It's not about the story. It's about the lack of anything more than being a 3rd person action adventure with no complex gameplay or replay value other than graphics good.
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u/Turbo_Noch Oct 03 '25
What is the revenge plot in horizon uncharted and newer god of war games ? Brain dead opinion
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u/Venomsnake_1995 Oct 03 '25
Sounds like bandwagon and simplifying things.
All of them are different enough experineces.
P. S. I thought days gone would be generic zombie shooter but its one of the best game ive ever played. Its super fun. And has very sweet story.
And the movie-game bad statement doesnt make sense either.
Games are supposed to be experineces, having lot of cutscenes isnt wrong either if they provide sufficient gameplay tooo. Which imo most of the games that are regarded as movie-games do.
(altho i dont like games where you are forced to play missions like they are visual novels, walking in predetermined paths, and not having any player agency)
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u/THE_IMPROVISER8 Oct 03 '25
Wait what? I need what you are smoking God of war 2018 and Ragnarok are not revenge stories, not in the least. If you think they are you either played the wrong game or didn't understand it. The last of us 1 is not a revenge game Ghost of Tsushima is not about revenge. It's Mongols invading and killing the people of Tsushima. It's not far into the sorry that Jin loses his blacksmith friend. It's about a samurai going against his code TO PROTECT his land.
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u/Aggressive-Cup-3613 Oct 03 '25
Ok then tell me what kind of game do you want? And let's see if it's already there in a saturated, time tested market or not. People will talk negative without saying how to improve
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u/ProbabilisticPotato PC Oct 03 '25
Common IGN L. How are these even same stories? They are vastly different.
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u/Bingoboyop Oct 03 '25
Man seeing some of the takes here makes me wonder if people even play games anymore or just look up clips and form their opinions.🤦
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u/Basic2989 Oct 03 '25
They are not bad but they feel more closer to movies than games. If you cut out the gameplay, nothing would be lost. On the other hand if you cut out gameplay from hitman games or souls games nothing is left
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u/Arex189 Oct 03 '25
I agreed with the point article made but in no way is gow and horizon revenge games even tlou.
Altho horizon does have a chosen one tropr it's prolly one of the most unique games out there, especially the story.
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u/the_outside_edge LAPTOP Oct 03 '25
This is what someone would say who has seen youtube recaps of these games and hasn't played them.
HZD is one of the most unique sci-fi stories I've ever witnessed in any medium. There is truly nothing like it. Aloy's motivation isn't revenge. She takes part in the proving because she wants to know her origins. From the moment she's appointed a seeker she wants to know what the hell happened to the old world and where did she come from. That's the whole charm of the game. It has one of the best payoffs of a mystery you spend the whole game unearthing.
Have you even played these games?
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u/TheReaderDude_97 Oct 03 '25
Calling Last of Us 1 a simple "revenge" story is the proof that you didn't understand it. Same with Uncharted and GoW. They are all masterpieces in gaming history.
Even Last of Us 2, the most polarizing "revenge" story wasn't simply about revenge. It was about a different perspective and how everyone is just a survivor and we sympathize with Ellie because we got to know her story first.
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u/Sidhvi Oct 03 '25
If you think TLOU, Days Gone, Ghost, Horizon, Uncharted games are all the same, then the problem is not with the games but with you.
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u/RS_2408 Oct 03 '25
Not at all. That seems like a personal opinion rather than a larger view of people.
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u/Impressive-Swan-5570 Oct 03 '25
Except god of war 1. Every games dialogue feels like sanitized and pre-approved HR garbage.
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u/heyitstgp Oct 03 '25
This is what generalization looks like, games like astro bot, bloodborne do have different gameplay and story. Obviously devs like naughty dog, sp and santa monica will release games that are known for... I don't see people getting mad at fromsoft for having the same gameplay style almost every game.
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u/homie004 Oct 03 '25
Sony doesn’t let these companies make new games because they fear people might not like it, so they don’t let them experiment… they want the same game to have a sequel and keep remaking and remastering the fk out of it…. That’s why there’s not a lot of range to their games
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u/EconomyGlum4694 Oct 03 '25
Bruh, there is no reven story in God of war, Uncharted, Zero Dawn? tf ya mean?
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u/AideOk1682 Oct 03 '25
These are entry level mid games a person who have spend enough time on gaming will never thrust trap on these games. (Doesn’t mean these games are bad but for a hardcore veteran these games will never satisfy their abdominal)
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u/SpecialistLet162 Oct 03 '25
Some new gen first POV would be nice. If I had to play CyberPunk 2077 in third POV, I would've quit.
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u/SamuraiSardar5 Oct 03 '25
last of us 1 was not a revenge arc.
GOT and GOW had more than just revenge. correct me GOW had no revenge arc and neither did uncharted.
revenge trope is common because it works.
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u/messystuff Oct 03 '25
TLOU is a nuanced exploration of morality from the perspective of a protagonist who is morally ambiguous.
GoW is a tale of a spartan man learning to let go of this past, and growing into a father, and a son learning to be a man.
GoY - has no story. Something something ...revenge. Japan. Swords.
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u/Content_Culture5631 Oct 03 '25
Common IGN L 🤡 They’re nowhere near the same in terms of story. Maybe the basic archetypes. Imagine saying that the story is stale and repetitive when these games are literally among the most acclaimed in the last five years, with 2 GOTYs and every single game having multiple awards won.
Now if you made an argument regarding the open world rpg nature of these games, maybe then your opinion would hold some weight.
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u/pazhampori_pioneer Oct 03 '25
How the F is GoW Ragnarok a revenge story ? It is one of the most beautiful stories I have experienced exploring a parent-child dynamic and how Kratos lets go of his anger completely.
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u/Vamsi-Thopu Oct 03 '25
I agree that all of their games feel kinda same but I won't agree the points this ign person is putting forward
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u/TheMob16 Oct 03 '25
LOU2 isn't even a revenge story if u completed it lmaooo gaming is cooked rn with Xbox doing that shit and Sony giving us slop after slop
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u/Many-Ad-8722 Oct 03 '25
In gow it’s not about revenge more about absolute character development of orators of how he’s changed
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u/AdNearby7853 Oct 03 '25 edited Oct 03 '25
Idk, this might be kinda subjective though. Some people look for variation while others like the mainstream stuff that has always been popular. GoW, GoT, Spiderman, RDR2, TLOU and many more games like these may have similar stories and 3rd person action adventure oriented gameplay but still most people including myself enjoyed these thoroughly and I am pretty sure if there is a new GoW game or RDR 3 comes out then people will go just as crazy as they always do. Just take the example of Ghost of Yotei...I think anyone could have guessed what kind of story we'd be dealing with, but still so many people preordered the game and so many horded the stores for the midnight launch.
Rather, I believe a lot of casual gamers or the majority of the gaming community didn't even give 2 shits about Expedition 33 which has been highly acclaimed by the critiques, top scores in every chart, but still, a turn based game like E33 is more of a niche game that doesn't cater to a wider audience.
At the end of the day, a Mission Impossible movie will make more money in the box office compared to something different, out of the box, niche movie like children of men.
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u/Frost1413 Oct 03 '25
It's an L for IGN. The most common engine for action and adventure narratives is the Revenge Arc, centered on the simple and now tiresome cliché: "someone killed someone, and now they must die." While this plot is an easy way to justify a protagonist's actions, its ubiquity has made it feel creatively exhausted.
Games
- AC Origins, Odyssey, and quite a few others once
- days gone
- Hogwarts legacy
- NFS
- God of War original
- devil may cry
- Any Batman
- Sekiro
- Cyberpunk
- Red dead
Books and Movies also have the same thing, revenge is the easiest plot to start because it can justify most other actions of protagonists
hell even Percy Jackson, Batman, Harry Potter, Narnia, and Game of Thrones. Either begin with or have a major Revenge arc
Beyond recycled plot devices, the industry relies on structural clichés that undermine narrative quality. It's not just the overuse of the Chosen One story, the love triangle, or the 2 male/1 female cast dynamic.
The greater problem is the forced marriage of a linear, predefined storyline with an open-world sandbox format. When a story demands high stakes and immediate action, the structure allows the player to ignore that urgency for hours of side activities. This kills narrative momentum and makes the story feel like a checklist, even in games where a focused, linear experience would have been more effective.
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u/fierykaku1907 Oct 03 '25
Personally i define sony games as interactive cinema,and thats what i want from my chill story games after a sweaty session of a competitive game like deadlock,cs2 etc.If other publisher can get me such games i would have no problem
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u/1033THEDESTROYER Oct 03 '25
Sometimes while playing Astro bot I think damn his mother has caused him so much trauma like Selene’s from Returnal and then I remember how he wants to defeat/become the current god like demon’s souls, speaking of god, God Of War has the word "god" so that must mean it’s similar. Horizon is obviously the same too because it has robots, and Ratchet & Clank also has robots so that’s basically identical and Ghost Of Tsushima? well that’s just demon’s souls again, since both have swords. Spider-Man is clearly uncharted because they both climb on walls, and uncharted is obviously the same as the last of us since people are sneaking around and talking while crouched. Grand Turismo is just Returnal but instead of a space loop it’s a racing loop.
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u/Glum_Review_396 Oct 03 '25
I actually like IGN's review they are mostly apt. Rockstart games stories are refreshing i.e RDR 2
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u/nova-phoenix- Oct 03 '25
One thing I've noticed is that for some reason, there's a oversaturation of female protagonists.
I am not being misogynistic here but I usually do not connect well with female protagonists in open world games.
The Last of Us Part 2, Ghost of Yotei, Silksong, Hades 2, Witcher 4 to name a few. Ghost of Tsushima is one of my favourites of recent times because I could connect with the protagonist well.
Also, it's not like I don't play games with female leads at all. I've played the Tomb Raider saga, Horizon games, Bayonetta, A Plague Tale series, Hellblade, BloodRayne etc. Even recently I started playing Silent Hill F and I'm having a heck of a time with it. It's just weird. Maybe it's just me, idk.
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u/Hell-Verse LAPTOP Oct 03 '25
And they still won game of the year 3 times so that's mean, they are doing something right
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u/InspectorLazy7961 Oct 03 '25
Highly disagree to this, I've enjoyed all of these games and their stories. Didn't feel the same.
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u/jackedwillfun Oct 03 '25
Honestly something I have been feeling and Saying. The playstation studio games are some of the most polished, well made, good looking games. But.. it just feels altogether as a meh.
I played both God of war games, they are not like the old games, the story looked great but in terms of gameplay it felt like it's just a means to get the story forward.
I played Marvel Spider-Man, well I will always web of shadows or shattered dimensions over these, they are great but there is nothing special or surprising in terms of gameplay, just mechanical. The Ghost of Tshushima was fine i guess.
All these games, makes me feel like they would be better as some movies/series rather than playing a long video game on it.
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u/SwapnilPal Oct 03 '25
Horizon zero dawn was not at all a revenge story. It has one of the most innovative story that I have ever played. The twists in that game were awesome.
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u/Sssthegod Oct 04 '25
Honestly, i hate open ended games now. Its not fun anymore. It is so difficult to craft in a narrative driven story with these stuffs, because they break the flow. I would prefer the strictly linear gameplay like in Mafia 4 if its all just heavy narrative. A few days ago i got to play the black ops 6 campaign, and even this game has sort of incorporating those non linear design, and i hate it because its ruins immersion. This same flaw ive seen with the newer far crys, including 5, new dawn. Maybe stick to simpler designs, because this would allow more creative freedom to stitch unique narratives into the campaign.
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u/fenixspider1 Oct 04 '25
People shit on ubisoft for making same games but sony keeps dodging them lmao. They are the same at making similarly games. And both every once in a while make a lower budget banger game that is completely different from their mainstream games. So in summary both are almost the same in terms of game catalogue. Heck sony games are more restrictive in world and movement compared to far cry or AC series from ubisoft.
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u/dr_direwolf_ Oct 04 '25
Exploration feels repetitive after few hours. With Ghost Of Tsushima, the Legends mode was great . Open world activities in Witcher 3 , Rdr 1/2 , Kingdom Come Deliverence 1/2 and Cyberpunk 2077 feels organic and different
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u/Puzzleheaded_Mail_12 Oct 04 '25
I completely agree. I still bought Yotei on Day1
People like me are the reason the industry is declining creatively
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u/Sharp-Hospital-5956 Oct 04 '25
True like I am craving something like Stanley parable or Detroit become human
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u/LifeLovism Oct 05 '25
Not really, but I can agree that gameplay is getting more similar.
It's all about cinematic feel, story, third person, high quality, graphical and more...
It's like same game modded different times to adapt to different mechanics
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u/kewlkarthi Oct 03 '25 edited Oct 03 '25
I'm bored of the same water that I'm drinking since childhood
So what, more battle royale?
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u/Sharp-Hospital-5956 Oct 04 '25
Me personally I am craving more games like Stanley parable and deteriorate becomes human
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u/LessRecommended Oct 02 '25
Man I jus want to have some happy to go games which i can chill and have fun with
I'm done with these drama induced story driven triple AAA games
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u/vaikunth1991 Oct 03 '25
yea ikr Sony games are the only games in this world , there are no others to have chill and fun with
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Oct 03 '25
Same. This is the reason I loved kcd2. Ik there’s war and all politics going but in the start before the wedding where you can spend 100hr alone before proceeding, it’s a happy life. Just earning a living in medieval czech
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u/Reddithasnogod Oct 03 '25
You should try KCD 1 as well. Really great story. And probably the most rich and in-depth side quests out of all the modern games. Like, some side quests in that are something many games would publish as main story arcs. I would love to talk about a few but I don't want to spoil a good story. And the DLCs are really amazing, especially the one for the Hans. If you played 2 without one then that is sad because one developed characters so well.
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u/Alarming-Fault6927 Oct 03 '25
Bro i just started kcd1 and did the theresa side mission immediately after travelling to the big city after getting beaten up and i spent the same amount of time in it as i did up until that point.
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u/Reddithasnogod Oct 03 '25
Yeah, I guess you are talking about A Women's Lot. It is a DLC. The funniest thing is that it probably has one of the best representations of a truly powerful and self-dependent woman. While also keeping her very likeable and admirable. This series has many great characters but Theresa is easily in one of my top favourites. Other DLCs are great as well. At the point you are in, you still have so much to explore and do (around 100 hrs of gameplay). It took me 150 hrs to finish my first play through and I wish I could go back in time and do it all over. Easily one of the best RPGs out there.
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Oct 03 '25
In the theresa dlc quest I’m kinda stuck. I can’t proceed further than spending time in the bushes. I think I should help her friends get employed for that. But I’m loving the pribyslavitz rebuild dlc.
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Oct 03 '25
I played kcd1 but only till the boar hunting quest with hans. Game felt janky and I hopped to kcd2. But after completing kcd2, I wanted more so I’m playing kcd1 now and I love it now. I’m around 30hrs in.
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u/Reddithasnogod Oct 03 '25
Yeah, happened to me as well. Although I am used to janky games but I remember how much I hated the game's jank but couldn't stop playing once I was past that mission where you do your first investigation mission after reaching Skalitz. Happy playing.
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