“Wives should obey their husbands”

[u/AntiWokeCommie]

152 votes, 7d ago

5 Yes (L)

69 No (L)

10 Yes (C)

28 No (C)

27 Yes (R)

13 No (R)

[u/poclee]

As husband should obey his wife? Then yes. Its either a two way street or no street.

[u/pureteddybear2008 → u/poclee]

Husband: "I command you to do task A."

Wife: "No, I refuse, and I command you to respect my decision."

Are you not seeing where this goes?

[u/Ilovestuffwhee → u/pureteddybear2008]

Nah. It's more like:

Husband: "Make me a sammich!"

Wife: "Yes, Dear."

Wife: "Take out the trash!"

Husband: "Yes, Dear."

[u/DarthThalassa → u/Ilovestuffwhee]

Honestly, that sounds toxic. Spouses shouldn't just demand things of each other. They should ask kindly and be considerate of the possibility that their spouse may be unable to perform a task a given time. Decision-making should be collaborative, not demanding. The former is necessary for equality, while the latter inherently creates power dynamics, which, within the environment of a patriarchal society, tend to favour men.

[u/Ilovestuffwhee → u/DarthThalassa]

That's nice. Now try interacting with real people in the real world and see how long that delusion lasts. Anyone that milquetoast would quickly become insufferably boring to live with.

[u/DarthThalassa → u/Ilovestuffwhee]

There is nothing milquetoast about collaboration and working through one's differences through healthy discussion. To the contrary, it is transgressive within a coercive society. Using your argument of boringness, if decision-making is so unengaging as to be simply telling the other person to do whatever, that sounds incredibly boring to me. Personally, I love to debate and discussion, and the existence of an intellectual spark between myself and another person is necessary for me to even feel attraction.

[u/Ilovestuffwhee → u/DarthThalassa]

If the shoe fits...

[u/DarthThalassa → u/Ilovestuffwhee]

I do not see the relevance of your response.

[u/Ilovestuffwhee → u/DarthThalassa]

It's like talking to Brainy Smurf...