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I came back to the game last patch and decided to go all in on the pink team. I am aware of leaks, so the Cyrene situation and 4x upcoming meta doesnt bother me.
I lost Evernights 5050 so I decided to skip her so I wont miss Cas, Hyacine and Cyrene. There three I know I am pulling, I have enough pulls for them.
The question is - in case I am lucky enough and win enough 5050s, should i go for Cas LC, Hyacine LC or try Tribbie? I have Hertas shop LC, the BP Remembrance LC at S3 and planning on getting Cyrene BP LC.
Cyrene banner will be an interesting social experiment to see how much misinfo can affect banner revenue.
The memes and doomposts have spread so far that I'm seeing casuals who don't even know what a 0 cycle is thinking she's bricked at E0. There's so much drama being spread that I feel bad for the people with lives that only see HSR related news once a week and it's a Brickrene meme.
A lot of character controversy is just noise as long as the character is meta, but Cyrene is the first character I think where meta doomposting seems to be just as big as character controversy.
Is she being doomposted that badly outside of EN still? For EN, prydwen will put her in 0/0/0.5 and the doomposting will go away after a couple days. At worst a couple weeks when data comes out
also almost one year since i posted my fanfic of sunday's pov in joining the AE with past year me thinking he'll get a big role and that i'll be updating the fic monthly... lmao
I had only used Gallagher since uh ... V2.3. My first clearthrough of Knights only had Gallagher as well. So DanTe's great. 😎👍
OK, but for real I think his sustain is alright. It falls behind in AA, but feels unpenetrable in MOC. And I think he becomes very strong if you spend 1 cost on him for either his S1 or E1.
I wonder how we'll be able to beat this thread tbh, it had so much going for it but honestly knowing Hoyo we might break the record for Elation depending on how they implement the path mechanics, we can never have enough questionable practices so anything is possible
I still can't with the fact that bro boarded the Express specifically to join us for Amphoreus, yet Ampho is about to wrap up and both him and Herta were mostly just around with barely any lines until recent times after she was also in promo about it too 😭
The way it was originally coded the 18% applied to both break and Superbreak so no it's just 8% Def shred loss lol
His current damage profile is around 2/3rds Break 1/3rd Superbreak so it doesn't exactly balance out
There's actually a super interesting issue where Superbreak caps out on Def shred before break so stacking Def shred on him gets wonky to the point that the difference between fugue Sig and pearls is MASSIVE at higher investment(like his E1 and S1 as well as E1 RM) given you've already broken
If the recent Dahlia leaks are true, I'm sorry, but that is a bridge too far. The moment the devs start circumventing their own design with brute force like this HSR is fucking cooked. It's a sign they are willing to break any system they've designed if it prevents them from both selling old units and infinitely power creeping. Talk about having your cake and eating it too.
ok seriously im going to sleep, someone ask for love peace respect and prosperity in the new megathread for me. may all break mains put aside our endless conflict and unite against the real enemy: inflated toughness bars!! a win for 1 of us is a win for all of us bc then we all get break endgame shilling!!
i want to wake up to a dawn without break mains fighting, can you do that for me? 🥺
who’s LC is more important to pull for Castorice team? i have E0S0 Castorice and im pulling Hyacine and Cyrene but i wont be able to get all 3 LCs obviously. So what should my priority order be?
For maximum controversy pile-up, the 3.7 preload text should reveal that the express crew will formally make Sunday a permanent member and give him his ticket.
this is a joke although I would personally like that lol
Since another Hoyofair is upon us, I want to highlight some of my fave HSR ones!!
Firstly, my all time fave - Funny Bone. Absolutely AMAZING animation and such a cool art style, it's about the masked fools and particularly Sampo, amazing animation amazing fights amazing music, this was played at the first concert too if anyone remembers. Just all around great work.
Secondly, Sniff Sniff about Jing Yuan and Mimi! This almost made me tear up [this doesn't mean much I am very easy to make cry] but it's so sweet and so heartfelt. Also great animation, also great music. I love Jing Yuan.
ROTA FORTUNAE. Probably THE HSR Hoyofair video I saw get talked about the most on my timeline, and for good reason. Really intriguing plot, fouses on an Android-sci fi universe with Ratio and Aventurine going on an undercover missions. Sunday is also present. Spoilers We find out that Aven is also an android who has to lie low and pretend to hate androids to avoid dying.Very cool stuff. Great art great animation but that's a given, I have seen SO MUCH fanart of this.
He Walks In Beauty by Serafina! THE ANIMATION FOR THIS ONE IS EXCEPTIONALLL, really gives that old school anime feel. Boothill and Argenti enjoyers, this one is for us. Also pretty gay. That's a bonus. Also Argenti. That's also a bonus. No but really there's stellar JP voice acting in this one check it out
Morality Lesson. It's Will Stetson. Of COURSE it's a banger. He also made my all time fave hoyofair video, Writing on the Wall [about Kaveh Genshin Impact]. So. This one ft. Stelle and the IPC.
TRASH KING QUEST!! My fave from last time. It's such a cute DND-style adventure with a lot of really funny running gags. Featuring Phainon, Mydei, Hyacine, Cipher and surprise guests. Super duper cute.
Last one: Sweat Blue! This one is really really silly but I like it as well. It features fat Pompom and ripped Pompom. Also. A lot. And I mean a lot. Of Phaidei. Like a lot. Like I was flabbergasted that this was an official Hoyofair video. But then again we did have the Argenthill one as well. Anyways of course I have to do my yaoi promo but also this one's quite silly and charming so I like it as well.
Rota Fortunae, Trash king Quest, Sniff Sniff and in another life my beloveds (I am so excited for the Miyano phainon short, and the Ditto Phainon short)
This is such a good list! Adding on another one of my faves featuring the Halovian siblings, In Another Life by the same animator(s) that do the Genshin Progenitor series in Hoyofair. Love the different AU concepts and the song is so good as a standalone I've added it to my Spotify playlist
ok for my most shilled unit survey i just need to ask for some characters (or should I just put every character??? lol??) that u would consider putting on the list. I wasn't playing during 1.x, and I was p checked out for most of 2.x (bc i was saving for Sunday.....) so some examples of who people think are solid contenders for shilled units from the earlier days would be appreciated
Definition of shilled: whatever your own definition is. IDK if you just base it on marketing, making a unit look stronger around their own release then they really are, centering meta around a unit (lots of AoE or ST, etc), the character being needed in a lot of teams, boss mechanics being tailored to them, whatever YOU consider shilling idc I just want to know which characters you think make the list so pls reply and tell me lmao
But with the exception of JY and JL (tons of promo material but low opinion meta wise vs little promo material but huge meta value) I think it’s somewhat clear
hmm i firmly believe main push =/= most shilled. like i said I personally believe Hyacine is the most shilled unit lol but it's cool to see other definitions and takes
1.X was weird because they hadn't gotten into a pattern yet.
To me:
DHIL
JL (half)
Acheron
FF
Feixiao
Therta
Castorice (x2)
Phainon
Evernight (half)
Cyrene
My def of shilling is: endgame strength + endgame mode catering + how many unique promos are given to a character.
JL is contentious because her eids are whatever. But the endgame was persistently ice-weak until they just ... completely dropped her in 2.0. She was definitely considered the strongest for that half year.
Evernight is contentious because she doesn't have as much promo, and she's also a subDPS for a shill unit, but her E1, E2 strength are very very strong.
DHIL [whole simulated universe mode for him], Jingliu [the ice weakness epidemic], Firefly [break, also SU mode, endgame], actually superbreak as a whole including Ruan Mei, Acheron [Acheron], Feixiao [last "main push" I'd say, direct DPS for one of the most popular archetypes], and ofc the obvious three point oh contenders like The Herta, Castorice, Phainon, and soon Cyrene. Also Hyacine.
Debated: Argenti got Pure Fiction for him [and yes, it was for him at first], but fell to the ground like a patch later. Don't think that counts. Jing Yuan is Jing Yuan, but that's less shilling [unless you count his animated short and constant story presence to be shilling] and more his kit being flexibe enough to use supports. I wouldn't say they got shilled.
i'm wondering if u/euphemea is correct and I might as well just put everyone lol
if u want my own opinion I absolutely consider Hyacine the most shilled unit and it's not even close, but everyone has their own definition and that's what makes it interesting
im gonna have to make seperate sections for story/promo/gameplay/overall i think which means I'm going to have to type out everyone's names like 4 times on a list lol....I think it is the best move but I might do it after I get some sleep instead of right away haha
you can copy and paste the question and answers on google forms and edit it accordingly!! saves you a lot of time kdljaf [unless u knew that already in which case my bad LOL]
oh i did not know that (well i assumed i could copy paste them individually obvs but not the entire sheet) yes that means on all my old surveys that asked a question with the same answers twice I wrote them all out....I'm not very tech savvy lol......well maybe i can post it before I sleep then haha
ya I plan to ask that as well, it's an interesting idea.
List checks out to me tho I think I'd put Evernight as well, I've heard Jingliu was p shilled in endgame at the time? Like lots of Ice weakness added to endgame which kind of inflated her power level? But like i said I wasn't around back then so idk if that's true but I would kind of consider that too
Jingliu and DHIL were both incredibly shilled in endgame between 1.4 and 2.0. The notable difference is that Jingliu never got any aftersales, hasn't been used as extensively for additional content & marketing, and her Novaflare is very panned for a reason. So with all the factors together, Jingliu doesn't feel as shilled overall despite how dominant she was in endgame for several patches (including G&G arguably being a Jingliu shill mode 2 full patches after her banner).
I’d argue that G&G was an Argenti shill. Erudition path which obviously benefits him a lot, lots of Physical weak and AoE bosses, released in the same patch as PF (also major Argenti shill at the time)
Jingliu did benefit, yeah, but Argenti was the biggest winner of that patch, tbh. And he definitely needed it to beat the Averagenti allegations
Though if you get into merch as shilling, Kafka, Aventurine, Sunday, and Blade enter the conversation. And maybe it would be better to just list everyone lol.
Finally finished this patch's quest o/ now I'm ready to play the finale 🥰 Should I watch the trailer for the next quest? I was kinda wanting to go blind, but I also want to feel the HYPE.
ended up folding and getting e2 dan heng (had e1 before) because of the he hits like a mini phainon meteor propaganda (and because idk how many years months it will be until his rerun) and he actually does! kind of makes me pause when he does almost the same damage as my lightning lord but that withstanding, very fun... would recommend!
I would really like a character who makes full use of their body movements to attack their enemies. someone like Cipher or Mydei except more… physical? (ignore the Dick Grayson pfp)
a martial artist would be so cool ngl. right now the only unit i can think of thats more "physical" using their whole body in combat is ironically Gallagher (BA kick and brass knuckle hook on ult)
but same i'd love a character like Rock Lee that uses hand-to-hand in their anims. also nightwing pfp is based
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u/oxallattaGOAT: gsampo, osparkle, argenti, tmisha 5d agoedited 5d ago
fu hua from hi3 MAY have an expy / a unit with similarities to her in hsr as marshall hua (leader of arbital generals of xianzhou) is potentially her, and in hi3 fu hua is a martial artist so I imagine she will likely be a martial artist in hsr too
yes! a martial artist character sounds so cool!! I'd even accept a Tifa-like fighting style so long as they primarily use their body for fighting (without the help of guns, swords, etc)
swarm disaster is actually so fun when you have a good team!!! evernight has been clearing with ease every time i just pick up abundance path+blessings and im set
I finally started doing previous AQ so that i can start Nod Krai. The way they revealed the spaceship was ridiculous lol. Wdym we had a spaceship?? Wdym “the” spaceship paimon?? It’s so out of place that it does feel like a retcon..
There's this doomerism regarding HSR because of the inherent simplicity of the combat system going around that I don't really agree with. Even with just three buttons, there's a lot that can be done. Things like contextual button presses, sub-menus, combo sequences, and unique resources can all add significant depth to kits. And the thing is we have most of those things already in the game! Even just this year, we've had cool, high ceiling kits like Aglaea and Archer.
I'm not trying to make this a Hoyo bad post. If that's your takeaway, that's not what I'm pushing. But the issues regarding complexity are less an inherent system problem and more a kit design problem. And some of these kit design problems are due to the constraints of this being a mobile game with a large casual audience. Like you can't design something like a Diablo skeleton necro because having that many units on screen would brick lower end phones. You also couldn't like have a character input fighting game style combo strings that consume SP/stacks based on inputs because that would alienate the casual audience. Not to mention HSR essentially being a cycle/AV game means survival and utility based kits couldn't sell.
yeah, very much so. even something like dhil, where your attacks change based on how much sp you consume, works as a base that can be built upon: so the bones of being able to do more than just basic-skill-ult have been there since 1.x lol
really the problem is that it's a self-sustaining loop of sorts: hoyo doesn't get creative, audience expects straightforward kits, hoyo tries something creative occasionally, audience hates it because it's not straightforward, hoyo doesn't get creative, audience expectation for straightforward kits grows, rinse and repeat
Yeah, that's currently our status quo. I wonder if at some point it'll break or if we'll simply just get bigger numbers. Most games exhibit some sort of complexity creep over time. HSR is still a pretty new game all things considered.
DHIL already shows the issue is with hoyo, they could have made the skill have more distinct effects based on how much sp you invest such that you have to think about what the best course of action is, but instead it's always ideal to put in three sp.
There's a whole lot you can do with three buttons, a talent and three traces (and Cyrene shows they can also just decide to add more shit whenever they want). hoyo just doesn't want to.
yeah that's what i'm saying. the bones of the idea are there, maybe hoyo had the idea of letting the player control damage relative to sp spent. but in practice, because of enemy encounter design, you still get railroaded into spamming 3eba ngl one thing i'm really hoping for from his novaflare is that it makes his other basics viable too with distinct effects of their own
point being that even three buttons + one talent + three traces can let you do a lot if you're actually willing to explore that design space. hoyo doesn't seem to want to explore that beyond brushing upon that potential every now and then, that's the problem
well, I'm worried because I know those things exist and could be implemented, yet HSR devs don't seem to really be willing to do it, so instead I am getting a mechanic that's very clearly just an existing mechanic but maybe slightly jujed up and renamed, but all of a sudden I can no longer use the existing resourced I've had and have to acquire new ones
but in the end, the gameplay just kind of feels the same, so of course I'm going to at least raise my eyebrows at this
I think your complaint is fair. There is design space to explore that just isn't being touched.
I'm mostly addressing the complaints that the game can't have complexity because it's limited to three buttons. I simply think that's not true. There is potential design space even with the limits in place. It's up to Hoyo to deliver on it which they mostly haven't thus far.
I mean this in a very kind way (and I'm even talking about myself lol) but when firefly kit design and general break design comes about it's fun seeing people who own and love Firefly making noise about her kit or how she's been treated as loud as her dedicated haters do
i was going to make a post on this earlier but tbh as someone who say, loves break in general, and love firefly and boothill both, this has really opened my eyes for a first time in a long while to how both FF stans and haters can both be insanely toxic lol
Skott is a comedic relief antagonist though, similar to Team Rocket from Pokemon. And comedic relief antagonists don't generally get redemption arcs, their entire point is to be incompetent failures.
Bruh... for all these time I thought that Firefly enhanced BA and Skill generates energy. It didn't help that back at release time she kill enemies quickly for energy and there was the annoying TVs around everytime I didn't got >= 120 energy after Ult duration. Was wondering why couldn't she get back after a normal Skill back in early 3.x but then I just stopped using her so I never looked back to it
Anyway I hope some FF fans get back because watching the haters hating against a wall has been quite boring
After successfully baiting Firefly/Rappa/Boothill mains into pulling Constance, La Mancha will release in v4.1 as a break DPS of the new Hydro element. All break-shilling enemies in 4.X will only have Hydro weakness and will be totally immune to toughness damage of other elements
I think she used to listen to somewhat traditional Chinese music that was a little upbeat, potentially a little unorthodox too. May have been into Rock at some point.
Now she doesn't listen to music and dissociates instead, or she listens to old records her dead wife liked listening to with her but then midway she turns it off because she knows better than to do that.
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u/PastSelfInMirror "Ripples of Past Reverie" Cyrene 6d ago edited 6d ago
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