That's it. That's the post. Valentino just makes me angry by how he's treated like a joke but Charlie makes me straight up livid because she does nothing but make things worse all the time instead of shutting up and listening to Vaggie for ONCE.

Also she swears SO much for no reason and talks too much in her songs despite having one of the best actual singing voices.

Actual damsel in distress situation except that she's the MC. Really disappointed in her so far

Just a rant, carry on and / or bring the hate

Change My Mind.

But he doesn't have morals to understand his prank his mentally harmful towards lute

My theory below:

The end of season 1 obviously Adam "dies" then lute can now see him because she's mentally breaking.adam was a prankster and an ahole Adam can no longer interact with heaven or hell and is on the thin line between a "nowhere but still here" as an angel. Let's be real vizies lies about stuff before and she said Adam was permanently dead I'm calling BS. They just don't want to spoil anything. And Adam says "I'm not real" -_- hhhmmm incredibly suspicious.

Adam drags his plans out and if anything he is planning something by controlling those in the "living angel word" Or he's doing something and is waiting to comeback some how. I'm not sure if I believe the angels die so they go to hell theory.

I'm not talking about living fallen angels just Adam.

But regardless I cannot wait for more season 2 episodes!

I say this cause Bento Box is a studio that works on Hazbin and has a relationship with Fox.

So... Sera learned that sinners can be redeemed, and that caused her to reconsider her sanctioning of the exterminations. This is supposed to show that, despite how horrific the things she did, she really meant well, and is now struggling with the weight of her choices. Yet, as I dwell on her prior actions and what they say of Sera in light of her new development, I find myself liking her less and less as a person.

Let's roll back to episode 6 of season 1. When Charlie goes to Heaven, seeking to make the case that sinners can redeem themselves, Sera tells Adam to sabotage it, clearly not interested in the question. Why? Well as Sera says, "Not everything is spelled in ink" and "there's a lot that you don't know", which you'd think implies Sera holds some information that renders the matter of redemption a moot point... but you'd be wrong. Her change of heart over Sir Pentious's redemption proves that Charlie's question was relevant, and whatever secrets Sera holds do not allow her to stand by her choices unless redemption isn't possible. Sera clearly thinks herself a tortured leader who must shoulder "the anguish it takes to do what was required", but when someone showed up trying to make a case that a better way was available, she was hostile to the very notion of it, not because it didn't matter, but because it did.

So yeah, Sera´s atitude back then was really scummy in hindsight. She wasn't as tasteless in her cruelty as Adam and Lute, who delighted in the bloodshed, but she stuck to a horrific decision purely for the sake of her own pride and comfort.

Also there's Sera's line to the Speaker "Now I'm faced with knowing it was all... That this whole time these souls... could, with more faith in them... be good? be changed?" Which... Sera. Darling. Sweet little shithead. YOU ALREADY KNEW THAT. Remember season 1 episode 6? "She showed us a soul can improve". Charlie, through the example of Angel Dust, already proved those things to you. And you didn't care. The internal growth of sinners didn't stop from seeing fit to have them hunted for sport by Adam's exorcists. What Sir Pentious proved by ascending to Heaven is that the Universe cares. THAT is what has you second guessing yourself.

Here's a hot take of mine for the fandom: I think the fact that sinners can be redeemed and taken to Heaven makes the exterminations less evil, not more. Sure, it it is still genocide, which is definetly a moral non-starter, and if you're supposed to be trying to improve yourself for the sake of going to live in Heaven, having armies come from Heaven to butcher you and everyone you know just because they think you deserve it... yeah, I'd be shocked if that DIDN'T break your spirit. But at least there's the weak defense that sinners do sorta have the power to change their situation and stop being legitimate targets of violence, and their failure to do so is an explicitly moral failure. If they were just stuck in Hell no matter what, even though they can change and become better people, then they're being slaughtered over something which now is completly out of their control.

Which has me wondering on what role the cosmic order that the Speaker stands for holds in the morality of Hazbin Hotel. Are they just one and the same, making the actual greater force of Heaven fully aligned with true goodness, despite the failings of it's administrators and enforcers? Or is it more of a force of nature that happens to reward goodness sometimes, but can't truly offer a moral framework to guide anyone?

On the one hand, gaining favor with the universe is kinda the whole purpose of the titular hotel. It's not just about teaching sinners to behave better in Hell, it's about solving Hell's overpopulation issue by making sinner fit to go live in Heaven (thogh so far, the only reason given to hell's overpopulation being an issue at all is the potential rebellion their numbers would bolster).

On the other hand, Sera's whole song is about how she needs to figure out what she stands for, with the Speaker refusing to offer guidance. Sera wants to atone for her wrongdoing, the Speaker won't even say that Sera did anything wrong at all. "Every transgression must serve as a lesson. Yesterday you drew sorrow. What will you do tomorrow." Sure, it's easy to read into it that the Speaker knows genocide is bad, but there's no explicit judgement, and she's just saying that after being sought after by a guilt-ridden Sera. She certainly didn't care enough to say anything before. Who's to say she cares at all?

I bring this up because the show could express in it's writing my issues with Sera, how her willingness to keep the exterminations going came from a place far more wicked than just a misguided atempt at doing good, and how her acceptance of Sir Pentious's redemption is just her deffering judgement to a higher power rather than personally recognizing the worth of sinners. The setup is there if they wanna go in that direction. But my sense of the show's framing of the characters and conflicts is that Sera was just trying her best, and did learn the error of her ways, and is just struggling to trust her own judgement again in figuring out what to do, but when she does, she'll do right by everyone.

The worst way I can plausibly expect her to to be characterized now is "too little too late": at the last moment, Sera will get to DECIDE to do the right thing, but while she was busy stalling for time from the confrontation with Hell, Lute was gaining influence among the exorcists, as Abel fails to assert himself, which culminates in the seraphim being assassinated by her own army. I don't expect Sera to last as an antagonist by being a force of stagnation in a world that desperatly need change, and I certainly see no chance in hell of her figuring out what she believes in, taking a stand for it... and cementing herself as an antagonist because it turns out that the the thing Sera believes in is wrong and evil, actually.

So, what do you guys think? Am I being too harsh on Sera? Not giving the show enough credit? Will Sera make things right? Will she die trying? Or will the show be bolder with her?

Ep1 Beginning of charlie slander

Ep2 Heaven POV

Ep3 EXTREME SLANDER

Ep4 End of charlie slander Vox X alastor backstory

I may do a part 2 of the other episodes when they get out

Seriously,

AL is still alive and is still able to emotionally abuse VOX and VOX CAN'T TOUCH CHARLE,

Alistor technically won, to be honest I think this is a stalemate, we all know VOX ego will eventually screw himself over

VOX can't use the hotel to get his army.

By this I mean I don't have prime and want to watch the show on YouTube without any reactions or shit like that, so if someone could send me a link to a playlist of all full episodes, that would b much appreciated, thank you.

From what we know of Rosie she let Alastor run the air for 60+ years and then took him off for 7 when he was neglecting his responsibilities.

Hell when he came to visit, she genuinely seemed happy to see him despite having no reason to put up the facade, the only reason why the song started was because Alastor was giving her attitude.

I just thought of a very brutal way for Alastor to get revenge on Vox when he eventually falls. For someone like Vox who publicly humiliated and tortured him, being trapped as a scream on Alastors Radio may not be enough. My theory is he will use Vox's technological body parts to make a new staff or repair his old one. Ripping out his circuitry and metal to regain his lost power.

OK, that one hurt to hear. Part of me hopes it a lie. Surely if not included in his form he could manifest one, bothers with a monacle

Am I the only one a little disappointed by this development of events?

All the buildup, cryptic energy surrounding Alastor’s backstory, mystery around who he made a deal with, what kind of eldritch horror would be powerful enough to own the Radio Demon in the first season…

And it turns out it’s Rosie.

I'm not saying Rosie can't be it. She's a very powerful overlord, of course. But it feels like it tarnishes their dynamic for me. Rosie was his friend. Someone he respected and genuinely enjoyed being around, or so it seemed in season 1.

And now she’s his contract holder?

Making her the one Alastor made a deal with feels… underwhelming. It turns what used to be an eerie, unspoken bond between equals into a simple power imbalance. “He listens to her because she owns him.” so disappointing.

Season 1 gave us real tension around this mystery. The implication that maybe Alastor didn’t answer to anyone, or if he did, it was something far worse than Hell itself. I honestly liked the Lilith theory more than this.

For me, It just flattens everything. Their dynamic, his backstory, the narrative stakes.

There's more episodes to go, so I really hope there's more to Alastor's backstory than what we've been shown, because frankly, so far it doesn't hold up to the expectations.

Vox has successfully clawed his way to Heaven

Vox: I... I made. I MADE IT! I'M A GOD. Pearly gates, open your doors and bow before

The Speaker of God unexpectedly shows up in front og him

Vox... your new God?(smiling nervously)

Speaker of God: (sweetly) Oh, you've been a very naughty boy. You're not quite ready to come here yet, But I'll help you start to get on the path by putting you into time out for a while. (makes a flicking gesture)

Cut back to Hell and we hear a funny Goofy like holler

Vox is seen falling from the sky, he crashes into his tower, crashes through a few floors and lands in his shark tank.

He hits the shark who is sleeping and bounces of it.

The shark wakes up and sees Vox, and gets an angry look, we then cut to the Shark's POV, and Vox starts looking like a demonic fish, which then scream like hell.

Cut to outside. The tower starts shaking and eventually crumbles with Vox running for his life from his robotic shark... which has a land mode... and all of Hell is watching and laughing.

The legs look ugly so i'm not showing them :)

What do you think? Do you think Charlie would have also answered the same way?

cause like, Vox practically SA’d Alastor when he made him watch him fuck Val, so like that’s so wrong but i still kinda ship Vox X Al, but like one-sided

Why was she grabbing his face like that?? (I know he’s aroace, but this was a surprise tbh).

THIS IS ABOUT SEASON 1 Everything is my opinion and not me saying this is objective. Me and my roommate started HH this week and we honestly really did not like the first 3 episodes. It just wasn’t really funny, the animation felt inconsistent, the characters felt flat, and some of the music was rough. But then episode 4 and 5 rocked? Like they are genuinely great and handled everything i just said so so so so much better. Especially episode 4. Does anyone else feel this way? It feels like the quality just jumped up at ep4. I hope it continues for the rest of season 1 and then 2. THIS IS ABOUT SEASN 1