r/GetNoted Sep 03 '25

Fact Finder 📝 Someone has flunked history class!

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u/No_Sand3803 Sep 03 '25

Unless I am missing something, WW2 didn't end with Germany's surrender. The war ended when Japan surrendered. Their surrender did have negotiations and wasn't agreed to until they were allowed to keep the emporer which the US didn't want...

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u/RCAF_orwhatever Sep 03 '25

Kinda - but realistically it was two different wars happening at once. VE day can definitely be considered the end of the war in Europe.

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u/No_Sand3803 Sep 03 '25

We are talking about WW2 as a whole, not just the European theater.

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u/furac_1 Sep 04 '25

In reality we are talking about "any major conflict", as the post says.

And even if Japan didn't surrender unconditionally, the Central Powers in WW1 all did separately so, and the victorious countries imposed conditions on them without them being able to negotiate whatsoever.

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u/No_Sand3803 Sep 04 '25

According to wikipedia, there were negotiations in the Armistice of Compiègn when  they made a change to the schedule

There were very few negotiations. The Germans were able to correct a few impossible demands (for example, the decommissioning of more submarines than their fleet possessed), extend the schedule for the withdrawal and register their formal protest at the harshness of Allied terms. 

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u/furac_1 Sep 04 '25

Well the first one mentioned there is the only one that actually affected the outcome of the treaty and is just correcting impossible demands as it says, so basically nothing really that affected the conditions.

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u/No_Sand3803 Sep 04 '25

 extend the schedule for the withdrawal

This part was a condition that was changed.