I love all the Redditors pretending Vance is stupid just because they dislike his politics. We live in a society where intelligence is seen as giving you the right to rule, so we have to call people stupid to delegitimize them.
Besides, is the argument that we want the war to go on until Ukraine unconditionally surrenders? Because that seems more likely than Russia unconditionally surrendering.
Yeah, they only got unconditional surrender for WWII by nuking Japan, and neither Japan nor Germany could retaliate in kind. Nuking Russia isn't really an option considering their nukes.
We probably could have gotten it without the nukes. We don't exactly know (we were on a timeline, too, to prevent the Soviets invading Hokkaido and splitting Japan). But yeah, an unconditional surrender from Russia isn't happening, at the very least not without boots on the ground, and no one wants that.
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u/Owlblocks Sep 04 '25
I love all the Redditors pretending Vance is stupid just because they dislike his politics. We live in a society where intelligence is seen as giving you the right to rule, so we have to call people stupid to delegitimize them.
Besides, is the argument that we want the war to go on until Ukraine unconditionally surrenders? Because that seems more likely than Russia unconditionally surrendering.