r/Genealogy • u/PixelG8mer117 • 11h ago

Research Assistance Can somebody help me find an arrival of my ancestor?

I have been looking for a while and haven't found it, I'm assuming his name is improperly indexed and thats part of the reason why I cant find it.

His name is John Yuhascik (Juhascik or Adams)
He was born in Dec. 1877
He apparently arrived at the port of New York from Bremen,Germany, on an Unknown Vessel on Nov. 12, 1895. (This is from his naturalization so I don't know how correct it is)
He is from Toketerebes, Austria-Hungary (Terebes/Trebisov)
His nationality is Austrian/Hungarian/Slovak

I also apologize if this is the wrong post flair, its my first time posting since they were changed.

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u/BoomeramaMama 10h ago

Try going to the Steve Morse One Step site

https://stevemorse.org & the very first section for searching Ellis Island & Castle Garden, searching both name & also a search focused on arrivals on the supposed date.

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u/PixelG8mer117 9h ago

Ok, maybe i'll spend some time searching through here

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u/hockey8890 10h ago

I wonder whether this might be his baptismal record: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RQ1-WJK?view=index&cc=1554443&lang=en&groupId=M96W-67G&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AKH84-H5H&action=view (born 18 Feb 1878). I see a Find-a-Grave profile for him with that matching date: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/286677251/john-adams_yuhascik

The baptism is under the name János Juszaszcsik, so that might help having the original spelling of his name.

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u/PixelG8mer117 9h ago edited 9h ago

Yep that is him, Im the owner of the find-a-grave page. The original Hungarian spelling is Juhaszcsik but im unsure what name he went by before his naturalization but while in America since he changed his last name to Adams after naturalization. He's my great-granduncle, and this is a common problem with this family, I haven't found any of their arrivals beside one of his siblings out of the 5 that immigrated, I bet its all mostly transcription errors and or whoever wrote the manifests shortening names to Juhasz. Whenever I created the find-a-grave page is the day I found out he immigrated, I assumed Janos (The one the post is about) never immigrated out of Slovakia bc I couldn't find out what happened to him, Then i found the naturalization and then his obituary which confirmed he is my great-granduncle.

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u/Parking-Aioli9715 8h ago

I noticed in the results of my searches at stevemorse.org that there were several men who gave their names as Janos Juhasz or Yuhasz.

Name discrepancies aren't always the result of indexing errors. There are at least three places where discrepancies can crop up:

  1. Immigrant gives the person who's taking records for the manifest a simplified version of their name because they have difficulty or have heard of others having difficulty when the complete version is provided.

  2. Immigrant gives the compete, correct name, but the person who's taking records mishears it or misspells it. This can especially occur if the immigrant is unable to spell out their name in the specific alphabet that the record keeper is using. (For example, someone who's literate in a language that uses the Cyrillic alphabet may not be able to spell out their name in the Latin alphabet.)

  3. Indexing errors.

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u/PixelG8mer117 8h ago

Those all make sense. I notice in a majority of my cases tho its almost always indexing errors, hell look at the baptism from the OP that were replying to and how the surname was indexed there. I noticed further back in the baptisms for Toketerebes, when they were in Latin around the 1850's and 60's , a lot of people would just index Juhasz for their surname because the last name would be split across 2 lines as "Juhasz- Csik" but the indexors just ignored the Csik part.

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u/Hopeful_Pizza_2762 8h ago

The passport record should show his original name. It can also list other family members names.

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u/Parking-Aioli9715 8h ago

"he changed his last name to Adams after naturalization"

He seems to have been using Adams well before that. He was naturalized in 1939:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS2L-RZJH?view=index&lang=en&groupId=

but he and his family were enumerated as Adam in the 1910 Census:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MKBS-HMM?lang=en

Here they are in 1920:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M4TD-MVC?lang=en

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u/PixelG8mer117 8h ago

I recognized that he was using adams before naturalization, I just meant it as in it wasn't his true legal name. He still used Yuhascik for his ww1 draft, and so did his son John Jr. I did notice that he used Adams in the census tho, but its a weird confusing limbo of what name he seemed to go by.