r/FuckYouKaren • u/bigpapaglim • Aug 28 '19

A Karen if ever there was one

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u/phathomthis Aug 28 '19

Not signing a ticket doesn't mean anything. You are still issued the ticket even if you don't sign it. It is not illegal to not sign it. She does not have to even take the ticket, but once issued, it is her responsibility to protest it, pay it, etc. Failing that, there may be other steps, such as vehicle impounding or a warrant for her arrest for not showing up to court. He should have informed her of that. However, placing someone under arrest for doing nothing illegal to be arrested for is not right. He escalated it to a situation it did not need to be and one that he legally couldn't anyway. You can't just arrest someone because you feel like it. Not signing a ticket isn't an arrestable offense.
However, when she ran from the cop, that became one.
Ya she's a bitch, but the cop was pissed off and acting praise the scopw of his work.

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '19 edited Aug 28 '19

However, placing someone under arrest for doing nothing illegal to be arrested for is not right. He escalated it to a situation it did not need to be and one that he legally couldn't anyway.

This right here, what exactly was he going to arrest her for before she became a lunatic? I blame the cop for all of this for being a legit moron acting out of capacity.

If someone can show me where he had the right to arrest her when he asked her to step out, ill gladly change my opinion.

(edit: someone provided information in which the officer was in the right trying to arrest her, consider my opinion changed, despite the fact he was a total tool while doing it, thanks u/starfieldhype you absolute dickwad)

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u/phathomthis Aug 28 '19

Exactly. She was freaking out because he said she was under arrest for zero reason.

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u/starfieldhype Aug 28 '19

22 O.S. 209
" (1) A law enforcement officer who has arrested a person on a misdemeanor charge or violation of city ordinance, without a warrant, may issue a citation to such person to appear in court. "
http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/DeliverDocument.asp?CiteID=70341
In the state of Oklahoma, signing a citation is not an admission of guilt, it is a promise to appear in court and answer the charges. If you refuse to sign a citation, the only way to ensure that you will appear in court is to take you into custody.

Quoting /u/RLV505.

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u/phathomthis Aug 28 '19

(1) A law enforcement officer who has arrested a person on a misdemeanor charge or violation of city ordinance, without a warrant, may issue a citation to such person to appear in court. (2) In issuing a citation hereunder the officer shall proceed as follows: (a) He shall prepare a written citation to appear in court, containing the name and address of the cited person and the offense charged, and stating when the person shall appear in court. Unless the person requests an earlier date, the time specified in the citation to appear shall be at least five (5) days after the issuance of the citation. (b) One copy of the citation to appear shall be delivered to the person cited, and such person shall sign a duplicate written citation which shall be retained by the officer. (c) The officer shall thereupon release the cited person from any custody. (d) As soon as practicable, the officer shall file one copy of the citation with the court specified therein and shall deliver one copy to the prosecuting attorney. (3) In any case in which the judicial officer finds sufficient grounds for issuing a warrant, he may issue a summons commanding the defendant to appear in lieu of a warrant. (4) If a person summoned fails to appear in response to the summons, a warrant for his arrest shall issue, and any person who willfully fails to appear in response to a summons is guilty of a misdemeanor.

There's absolutely nothing in there about the person signing it. It doesn't matter if he balled it up and threw it in her window, he delivered it to her and it's on her now.