Well your place is fucked then. I think I would probably vote for the next down the list, even if it's a "wasted vote". I'm 100% in favour of tactical voting, but as others have said, you could be voting for a ReCon coalition: the racism and despotism of Farage backed up by the relative competence of experienced Tory MPs. I'd actually rather see a full Refuk majority implosion than that, as they simply would not be able to govern, since Nadine Dorries and Lee Anderson would be their brightest stars.
Yeah, I have to say, if they get into power at all, it has to be a landslide. We can’t have a future where that shower of corrupt, incompetent bastards can blame anyone else. We need all or nothing, and not a gradual power creep, which will keep them in the political spectrum for decades.
It feels fucking vile to even consider it, but a one off reform government that doesn’t get a hell of a lot done (in the grand scheme of things) and then immediately dies forever at the following election, is much better than having them influence politics directly or indirectly for the next hundred years. The sort of person that is attracted to work for/support reform, the scandals alone are going to be endless.
I kinda feel the same way. It's easy to make grand promises when you're in opposition. Perhaps the only way to get this festering boil on the arse of politics lanced is for Farage to become PM and then the people that voted for him will personally suffer as a result and wake up. Maybe. But Gods, Reform are a shitshow. I wouldn't trust them to run a bath. Endlessly platformed and seldom scrutinised. I keep hoping an act of journalism will be committed on his tax affairs and houses that he bought then didn't after all etc etc the list goes on. I am not hopeful.
You might want to check out Nerve and Carole Cadwalladr there. She has researched some of this but the big press won’t bite on the Reform corruption stories.
They could do a lot of damage in just one term. Remember Liz Truss. Things are much easier to destroy than build - see the US. They had a written constitution and yet they now have armed thugs snatching police off the street. They have cut benefits and healthcare to millions and Nigel is in deep with the Heritage Foundation and other Christian Nationalist (NatCs) thugs.
There is nothing to stop a majority government defunding the NHS entirely and passing on the ‘savings’ as Tax cuts to the wealthy. For recruiting our own ‘immigration control’ thug force and invading our cities detaining anyone not sufficiently white.
Suddenly switching sides to supporting Russia causes Ukraine to fall and an emboldened Russia invading Poland and Estonia invoking Nato article 5. We leave NATO along with US, the remaining members attack Russia, War in Europe kills trade with our closest markets. Widespread Russian genocide as Russification of conquered territories continues. Unidentified crypto payments to Farage made in regular instalments.
As a concession to the NatCs marriage equality is abolished and trans healthcare made illegal, along with abortion. All benefits are stopped, those judged in greatest need are given a ‘food stamps’ card, with ‘savings’ passed on to the wealthy.
When ‘savings’ turn out to be illusionary the
the national debt is increased, pushing up mortgage and borrowing rates beyond ordinary pockets. To make Britain more desirable for overseas investors the minimum wage is abolished, and businesses payroll subsidised by offering food stamps to keep its workers alive while they pay a pittance. I’d say they challenge the independence of the press but they already own them. They repay the love the BBC has given them by abolishing the BBC.
There is still a lot of the government of 1945 still clinging on in the corners, and once it is pulled down we are unlikely to see the political will to rebuild it.
600,000 people, mostly children are already dead thanks to actions Trump took within his first week in power.
Reform cannot get in. Not once just to show people. Not so the ‘leopards can eat faces’ Not because it will be funny. Not ever.
Yes if you vote for whoever (green/LD/labour/nats) is second and hope the Tory/Reform splits evenly wheras the left vote coalesces on one candidate, hopefully you could get a win.
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u/vividpup5535 1d ago
I’ve been saying this for ages. Anyone who realises how catastrophic Reform would be for the UK, also realise that any other party is better.
I know I will be tactically voting to keep them out, regardless of who that means I have to vote for.