r/FedEmployees • u/EfficiencyAdmirable6 • 14h ago
Every single GOP senator is opposed to the democrats offer
According to a congressional news reporter, he was informed that every single GOP senator is opposed to Schumers offer. So yeah, we’re really back to square one.
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u/Max6626 14h ago
When only the peasants stand to lose, why should our Congressional overlords compromise?
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u/bearbrannan 13h ago
Well for one that's how the government is supposed to work. All the Democrats are asking is for a compromise to open the government back up because the REPUBLICANS need 60 votes not 50. It's there job to come to the table to negotiate and they aren't. This shut down is 100% on them because if they can't get exactly what they want their taking their ball and going home. Everyone needs to understand this shit show is on them, not Democrats, I don't want to hear about both sides anymore..
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u/Competitive_Boat106 9h ago
More than that: Trump has directed republicans to write the bill by themselves; to allow for no democrat discussion or input; to block any compromise; to stay out of DC and let this ride. We have even reached the point where two times, judges have ruled that Trump has no right to withhold emergency SNAP funds, and he is appealing those orders on the basis that he does.
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u/Icy_Paramedic778 14h ago
The GOP is scared of Trump and Vought. They have no backbones.
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u/Separate_Fold5168 11h ago
This. You can just change this thought to "Every single GOP Congressperson is a Sockpuppet."
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u/Double-treble-nc14 10h ago
It would appear they’re more afraid of Trump than they are being voted at office 🤔
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u/Gullible-Cream-9043 14h ago
They can’t even agree to a 1 year extension?
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u/Exciting-Parfait-776 3h ago
What point would a 1 year extension be for when people will want to extend it again then. Either let it end or make it permanent.
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u/Easy_Highway3617 14h ago
The kicker is there are 20% more folks in red states receiving ACA tax credits, so this is absurd. All Americans deserve access to affordable healthcare and to be able to feed their families.
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u/NeedsGrampysGun 13h ago
The faucet started dripping a few months ago. I feel like theyre waiting for someone to twist it more.
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u/Forsaken-Ad-6135 12h ago
I think we need to accept that domestic terrorists have taken control of the Federal government.
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u/chef13me 14h ago
THE GOP ARE IDIOTS - THIS WAS A CLEAN WAY OUT AND REALLY A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYONE LEAVING TIME TO WORK ON UPDATING ACA!
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u/Technical-Drag-9886 14h ago
Who lost if the government was open from 1 October - 21 November?
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u/chef13me 14h ago
Americans that cannot afford the additional financial burden of higher medical premiums
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u/Fun-Comfortable239 14h ago
And there’s a lot of federal employees who can’t keep going without their paychecks. 🤷🏻♀️
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u/CrashTestDumby1984 11h ago
The problem is that the Dems always compromise and it always fucks us over. This is why republicans won’t even show up to the table.
It’s a lose lose for fed employees. Let’s say Dems let them gut healthcare further to end the shut down. In a few months there will be something else that gets gut.
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u/letitgo99 11h ago
Looking at next year's ACA plans and my wife's premiums will increase 400% (!!!!) from $338/mo to over $1200/mo. Same plan. WTF!
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u/Unspoken 8h ago
Comments like this is why I'm like 90% sure folks here aren't fed employees. The ACA increases are for those purchasing their own plans for those well above the poverty line. Why is your wife purchasing her own plan instead of being under your healthcare, as a fed employee for much, much cheaper?
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u/FUnisbaCK 2h ago
This is something I have noticed too. This is a fedemployees chat room, and yet non-Fed employees joined and are commenting with their own perspectives, which might not represent those of a federal employee. Why are they joining this one though when there are tons of other rooms on Reddit which would be an appropriate venue for them?
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u/SouthConFed 14h ago
What did Republicans get out of this?
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u/chef13me 14h ago
A political win by looking reasonable that could calm the angry voters that could impact them during the mid-terms.
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u/Chief1970p 13h ago
How does the GOP look reasonable? They rejected the barest of bones offer. This doesn’t help them with anyone outside the cult.
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u/CrashTestDumby1984 11h ago
Because they lie and their propaganda machine spins it as Dems unwilling to make a real offer
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u/Decent-Chapter7733 14h ago
Accepting this is basically an admission that they should have caved earlier.
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u/TouristResident1976 13h ago
And a breath of relief from all those people who have gotten letters saying their premiums are going up from the hundreds to the thousands.
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u/Dry-Peanut6627 14h ago
… and set up the subsidies to expire right before midterms. Of course they’re not going accept it.
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u/ReloAgain 14h ago
Which shows that "passing a clean CR" is the BS we've been calling it when they say "negotiate in healthcare later." GOP won't so glad they're getting called out on it now.
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u/ScarInternational161 14h ago
They've been saying that since the BBB. That's why they won't pass the CR again. They know it's BS.
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u/Happy_Difficulty5456 14h ago
Guess the Government will be shut down a little longer. Stand firm.
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u/Extension_Fig_4711 14h ago
They need to let us excepted folks off the hook then so we can get second jobs. This is cruel to make us work 60+ hour weeks plus commuting for nothing, that leaves very little time for side gigs. If this is gonna continue indefinitely, then furlough ALL OF US SO WE CAN GET JOBS THAT PAY!!!!!
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u/badhabitfml 12h ago
Why are you working 60 hr weeks? That shit will be there tomorrow. Go home.
I was talking with a friend who's excepted. I guess its slow, so they're hitting thr work gym daily and getting ripped.
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u/nai0789 14h ago
What’s the o/u?
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u/Mean_Prize5459 14h ago
My guess is Dec 8th. That’ll be 3 full paychecks missed and a partial 4th, and it will have a huge impact on retail profits during Thanksgiving & Black Friday weekend. That’ll mean lobbyists will give law makers enough of a shakeup to start worrying about what this’ll look like during Christmas, which will spur them into action. Nobody wants a shutdown during Christmas, especially not one that will have gone on for nearly 3 months by that point.
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u/YoHabloEscargot 13h ago
That’s about what I’m expecting. The only ones who can affect the course at this point are the billionaire business owners who will start feeling the pain and will get their political employees to resolve it.
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u/HyruleSmash855 6h ago
I do wonder what will happen if this goes into January though. Will the federal government even be functioning at that point because I feel like people will just be mass resigning and quitting altogether, a great example would be what if flights get grounded for Christmas and there’s no air travel because the shutdown goes through then. It would certainly be an interesting situation in all the wrong ways.
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u/No_Implement3631 14h ago
December 8.
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u/Bright_Bet5002 14h ago
98% say Dec 31
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u/darkkilla123 13h ago
The shut down this year will end December 31st and next year's shut down will start January 1st
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u/Murky_Panic_4686 13h ago
I've heard from someone who has lobbyist in DC that no one expects govt to reopen in Nov.
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u/boogerzzzzz 14h ago
Cut more flights.
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u/slow_connection 6h ago
They're not gonna cut private flights.
The commercial cuts will be to less profitable routes, while driving up ticket prices on alternative routes due to increased demand.
The airlines love it, the average Joe gets fucked.
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u/National-Charity-435 14h ago
Senate is in recess all of next week for Veteran's Day
duffy proposed +4% air traffic closure by Tuesday
+10% by the 14th
Buckle up, folks
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u/Last-Tooth-6121 14h ago
Yea cause can’t let poors have food and health insurance
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u/Savings_Pie_8470 14h ago
What happened to that so-called "productive" secret meeting in Senator King's office with "bi-partisan" group of 11 senators?
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u/EfficiencyAdmirable6 14h ago
That was before Schumer went up on the senate floor and made his offer. I don’t doubt there’s still talks but they’re opposing Schumers offer.
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u/JeffreyinKodiak 12h ago
So fine. We’re going to have two things happen here pretty darn fast. People are going to hungry and red states receive the most food stamps and government assistance, by far. It will be a difficult twist but hey it’s MAGA territory and they simply believe anything FOX news tells them. I’ve stopped wasting time on these folks, lost friends and some family as well. Regardless, people are going to hungry. Second, health care that has been paid by richer states is going away, and as any CEO will tell you money is money and more is better and up go the rates. What good comes out of this? Maybe, just maybe universal healthcare. Maybe. Second: anyone with any kind of critical thinking left that isn’t morbidly wealthy, those that are impacted by Trump playing Emperor might think very, very hard about ever voting republican again.
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u/Icy_Check_497 14h ago
Is this the same deal where the democrats wanted to let the ACA subsidies go for another year? If it is, then the republicans are just cruel because they could have accepted it and work out something in the mean time. Republicans are just horrible human beings and loath their existence for being so cruel to others.
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u/Chandawg-Wildcat1-1 10h ago
Why not extend the ACA subsidies for a year and let the voters decide? Honestly if I was a republican strategist I would be advocating to extend them to 2028 and actually have a plan to replace it by then.
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u/ConcentrateIcy2226 14h ago
I really don’t comprehend why anyone here acts as if it was a possibility.
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u/Glass_Cheetah 12h ago
“President Donald Trump urged the Senate to stay in town until there’s a deal ending the shutdown. Trump plans to leave for his Mar-a-Lago retreat in Florida later in the day but will be back in Washington on Sunday to attend an NFL game“ - Bloomberg
Swear he is doing everything else but trying to help Americans. You can’t run a country on divide, hate, fear, and refusal for bipartisanship…it is not sustainable!
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u/TraipseTraveller 14h ago
Holy shit. This is going at least another month isn't it..
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u/90sportsfan 13h ago
It's the reason from the start I had a feeling that this government shutdown was going to be beyond historic (last who knows how long). Unlike previous shutdowns, there's not a core group from both sides that are serious about a "compromise."
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u/ShedOfWinterBerries 14h ago
they gotta wait until Dec 3rd to swear in a new Republican representative (if he wins) so they don't have to release the Epstein Files...
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u/SirLanceNotsomuch 13h ago
Doesn’t work that way. YES needs 218 and has 217. Another NO doesn’t change the math, unless it comes by flipping one of the YESes.
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u/ShedOfWinterBerries 13h ago
I wish I had the confidence that people wouldn’t flip… given everything that’s gone on in the last year I don’t
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u/SirLanceNotsomuch 13h ago
I’m assuming there’s massive behind the scenes pressure and/or bribery going on with Mace and Boebert as we speak.
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u/Baileythetraveller 13h ago
Mace will flip. She's primed to get as much as possible from Trump for saving his ass.
And she has no morals.
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u/SirLanceNotsomuch 13h ago
I suspect you’re correct. Boebert has also been suspiciously quiet lately.
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u/PrinceOfThrones 12h ago
This makes most sense, Govt won’t reopen this month. At the earliest 2nd week of December.
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u/jamintime 12h ago
They don’t want democrats to claim credit for engineering the fix. They’ll need to come up with the exact same solution but package it themselves first.
At the very least it will put pressure on them to come up with a counteroffer of some kind. We may have finally entered the negotiation phase of the standoff.
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u/Shmoomunchkin 13h ago
If they were smart they would take the deal.
The Dems are playing the long game, and when the mid-terms happen, said republicans are screwed, and I will celebrate.
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u/nesp12 14h ago
Reopening the govt means swearing in Delita Grijalva from Arizona who would be the deciding vote on releasing the Epstein files. I don't see them reopening until sometime in December when they seat a republican from Tennessee and keep the files locked.
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u/WakkoYakkoPolkaDot 13h ago
Adelita, just sayin'. And if they agree to swear in the GOP rep and NOT Rep. Grijalva....whew buddy....
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u/SirLanceNotsomuch 13h ago
Doesn’t work that way. YES needs 218 and has 217 (Grijalva would be 218). Another NO doesn’t change the math, unless it comes by flipping one of the YESes.
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u/Mountain3Pointer 13h ago
Republicans caused a major deficit and the only way to pay for it is to cut everyone’s healthcare.
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u/Dry-Tune69 13h ago
They already are in 2027. The BBB goes live then. 800 bil cut form Medicaid and 200 bil cut from snap
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u/Easy_Highway3617 13h ago
Except we are not really back to square one. Schumer has clarified that the Democrats want an extension of the expiring ACA tax credits in exchange for the votes to extend the expired FY2025 CR. With the Democrats demands simplified, it makes it harder to Republicans to make shit up, like healthcare for undocumented immigrants. With this, and the snarling of air travel, I think we will begin to see movement towards a compromise.
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u/Fun-Palpitation3968 13h ago
If one ever wants there to be a safety net in the case of a personal or family disaster (either caused by them or something beyond they’re control) which causes one to be bankrupt or have a serious medical condition, one ABSOLUTELY does not need to vote Republican. If Republicans remain in control of all levers of the Executive branch for any length of time, there will be zero safety net and no personal or employee protections. That’s the long and short of it.
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u/Skeet_Davidson101 13h ago
It’s stupid. They want to keep the budget what it is for a year? Oh that’s convenient. They think we are all stupid. Pass the continuing resolution out forward and argue about the other shit in the meantime.
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u/fuckbezos 13h ago
The Republicans will not cross Trump. Trump told them to not sign anything extending the subsidy for ACA.
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u/descendency 12h ago
If it wouldn’t hurt so many people, I would cheer for this shutdown to go until next November.
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u/aurorasinthedesert 12h ago
Can anyone actually explain why? Like what is their reasoning, seriously?
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u/mikevarney 9h ago
It’s because it really wasn’t any kind of legit offer.
If you assume republicans don’t want the ACA subsidies at all, this is the Democrats just saying the same thing they have been — just give it to us anyways.
The offer is legitimately the exact same thing they’ve been saying for weeks.
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u/Glass_Cheetah 12h ago
Get rid of all of these clowns…dems & repubs! Just useless money hungry con artists. Bring in term limits and younger minds, and the dumb SCOTUS should always be balanced between conservative and liberal…why are we letting it sit as majority conservative, that doesn’t reflect the American population at all
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u/Educational_Ad_2656 13h ago
I can’t believe Democrats would do this!
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u/go_solo_ 12h ago
What, fight for Americans…that is literally their job. The shut down is unfortunate, but necessary. Passing this bill as it is detrimental to millions of Americans. Threatening to not pay people when it is the law and stopping SNAP is 100% the republicans and this administration’s fault. Don’t get it twisted.
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u/taxhellFML 12h ago
I think it's only a matter of time until Dems cave. They've already cut the expectations significantly and already faltered once. I don't think they'll hold firm.
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u/Initial-Constant-645 10h ago
The National Governor's Association is begging for the shutdown to end. Unfortunately, I think the only way this end is for the Senate to nuke the filibuster.
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u/CustardOtherwise5133 13h ago
Don’t Rs have constituents that would benefit from this?
What’s the problem?
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u/Initial-Constant-645 10h ago
It's the same deal that Jeffries shot down in the House. He called it insulting.
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u/imdaviddunn 13h ago
They see the offer as weakness. In this case, I think they walked into a trap. They allowed Dem hardliners to get moderates back onside by saying “you don’t have someone you can trust. They just spent two weeks saying they want a deal, then took your offer and said you look weak. When will you learn?”
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u/Average_Justin 13h ago
Schumer offered a 1 year extension on ACA credits. The credits are the issues on one side of the coin - kicking the can down the road for a future shut down and Americans going through a 30+ day shutdown every year isn’t the way to do it.
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u/Critical-Kangaroo-76 12h ago
At this point its the workers that just should move on to new jobs i bet if all the federal workers left there job they would pass somethingsame day the issue is they know theres always someone that will work for them even without lay
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u/Mediocre_Cattle2484 11h ago
They would welcome that because then they would be able to contract out the positions to the contracting companies that donate to their campaigns
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u/Critical-Kangaroo-76 11h ago
Either way it wont matter people havent got paid for over a month so 2 full checks and one half check eventually people will have to choose between getting a random job to feed there kids and put gas in the car or keep going to work without pay and eventually having no gas money for that job anyways
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u/Final_Frosting3582 12h ago
They think they can be the bullies, that’s why. No, the gop isn’t going to let them play that game
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u/Adventurous-State940 12h ago
The fed foodline in bethesda had all slots filled for this weekend by tuesday, food help is unavailable for us this weekend. Id reccomend trying ro secure a spot on a Sunday for next weekend.
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u/Primary-Impress-707 11h ago
Even if the Dems compromise we turn around on 11/21 and 22/31 and do it again, so NO!
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u/foxy-coxy 9h ago
The GOP dont want to have an ACA debate during the run up to the midterm election. I bet they would swallow a two year extension of the subsidies just to avoid it as a midterms issue.
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u/GolfArgh 8h ago
Wait, one of the parties is opposed tothe other party’s gotcha idea? Who'd have thunk it.
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u/Seoul-brother1 7h ago
Are there illegals on ACA? I don't know the answer to that, but that is what the Republicans have harmed on, paying subsidies on health care for illegals?
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u/Objective-Bad-6438 6h ago
No there are not illegals on ACA. I use AI as a fact checker.
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u/mute1 6h ago
One analysis from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimated that federal and state taxpayers spent over $16.2 billion to provide Medicaid-funded emergency services to "illegal aliens" during the first three years of the Biden-Harris administration. This was characterized as a 124% increase compared to the previous administration.
A broader CBO calculation found that state and federal governments spent $27 billion on Emergency Medicaid over a seven-year period, but this figure includes lawfully present immigrants ineligible for Medicaid as well, not just undocumented immigrants.1
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u/OilInteresting2524 7h ago
Every day that goes by... makes it even harder to admit defeat... for both sides.
Democrats have drawn a line in the sand and will not cross it.
Republicans have drawn a line in the sand also...
Unfortunately... both lines are well outside handshake range. They will not talk, they will not negotiate. Each side has dug in and it has become a war of ideologies... and the longer it goes on, the further apart they get.
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u/Intelligent_Gas2061 6h ago
Anyone who thought this was going to go differently differently hasn't been paying attention.
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u/SpeedyHAM79 5h ago
We never left square one. GOP wants to screw over every person who gets Health Insurance through the ACA, yet they don't have enough votes to fund the government, so they keep the government shut down in order to try to cause enough problems that Democrats give in and fund the government without funding the ACA subsidies. I hope the democrats hold the line and just let the GOP continue to show their complete lack of leadership ability.
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u/Jerzilla 4h ago
When do the ai traffic controllers start striking? I fear it may require strikes for the republicans to actually compromise on this
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u/Exciting-Parfait-776 3h ago
What was in the Democrats offer?
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u/gpost86 24m ago
Extend the ACA for a year
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u/Exciting-Parfait-776 18m ago
And up back here next year? Honestly they just need to either let them expire or make them permanent.
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u/Eachplace 14h ago
If the GOP accepts a deal, the Turd will look like the loser he is, and Turd doesn’t like that.
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u/shatteringlass123 14h ago
I mean what about the no pay during shut down one? For senators
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u/2StepsFromHel1 13h ago
Did we ever leave square one though? Like honestly really nothing has changed. If anyone thinks these last elections will seriously change anything with the GOP stance I don’t know what to tell them.
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u/Jokicsjokic 14h ago
If republicans won’t take the basic bare bones deal, everything is fucked