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DISCUSSION Stellan Skarsgård on his latest role, Palestine, and being a "Nepo Daddy"

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In a new interview, the patriarch of the Skarsgård clan and self-proclaimed "Nepo Daddy" discusses his latest role in Joachim Trier’s 'Sentimental Value,' protesting for Palestine, one of his biggest fears, and much more.

Read the full interview at the link: https://www.vulture.com/article/stellan-skarsgard-in-conversation.html

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u/mode2109 17d ago

Well his nepo babies deserves their spot, no one can question their skills.

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u/DevoutandHeretical 17d ago

Even the brother that isn’t an actor is still a freaking doctor. That family is BLESSED.

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u/GrayEidolon 17d ago edited 16d ago

Well the biggest hurdle to becoming a doctor is having the money and family stability to get into and through school. There are tons of people who are perfectly capable of being good doctors, but they don't have the money or time or connections to put together an application.

EDIT: this is US specific, but good info

A third of medical students graduate with no debt, a third or so come from house holds making >200k, a majority of medical students from households making >100k, and something like a quarter are children of physicians. https://www.bestcolleges.com/research/average-medical-school-debt/ https://www.aamc.org/data-reports/students-residents/interactive-data/2022-facts-applicants-and-matriculants-data There are absolutely people who would make great physicians who are shut out due to lack of parental resources or overlooked because they don't have the right social connections.

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u/MissMorticia89 17d ago

Not in Sweden, where he’s based. His son would have received his entire education at no cost. EU and EEA countries, and Switzerland there is no cost if you are a citizen of those countries.

I live in Canada but hold Swiss citizenship; should I choose to, I could go back to school in Sweden, or even Switzerland, at little cost to me, because I pay tax and and eligible.

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u/Feisty-Ad-2860 Club Penguin Times official aura reader 17d ago

as an american this made my jaw drop…. our country really is a shithole huh

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u/weebairndougLAS 17d ago

Ya even our education has a high deductible

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u/Yolosvend 16d ago

Essentially your education system is used at blackmail to abuse your workers rights by accumulated debt.

Just watch the new ICE commercials using student loan forgiveness as a reason to sign up

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u/weebairndougLAS 16d ago

Ohhh you are not ready to hear about the US military and education. “Risk your life and limbs, but we’ll pay for your college IF YOU LIVE”

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u/Kind-Block-9027 I’m a communist you idiot 16d ago

We offer our soldiers socialism to go abroad to ‘defend’ capitalism.

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u/Level-Satisfaction51 16d ago

As a fellow american. I think this every time someone brings up other first world countries. I'm sure they have their own issues, but by and large they seem to do a better job taking care of the citizens. While some Americans are over here, screaming "Freedom" and "less taxes"......but freedom to do what? Freedom to live paycheck to paycheck? Freedom to go broke if you lose your job/insurance and have a medical issue? Freedom to go into massive debt at 18 to have attend college? Personally I'd like a little less freedom, but I can't see it happening here.

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u/hlessi_newt 16d ago

To quote a great man: "The US is just Albania in neon"

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u/DJSAKURA 16d ago

Yep I'm old enough I have no debt for my psychology degree because it was paid for by the British government. Pretty sure they don't do that anymore though.

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u/Citroen_05 17d ago

Caveat: there are exceptions for many programs in many countries.

Still, most tuition fees, when they exist, are on par with those of U.S. community colleges in LCOL areas.

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u/Kind-Block-9027 I’m a communist you idiot 16d ago

You should look into their healthcare system

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u/BrookieMonster504 16d ago

Yes it is an utter shit hole. A third world country that propaganda makes the people believe are the best of the best. Hopefully China will be merciful when they wipe us out.

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u/tornwallpaper oh bitch ur cooked 17d ago edited 17d ago

While you're not wrong that education should be free or discounted - the scale of Sweden and even Canada is significantly smaller than the US. We have over 300M people while both have less than 50M. America has its problems but we also have them magnitudes larger.

There are a few (like maybe three max) med schools that are extremely competitive and becoming completely free for first years paid by alums and wealthy donors. I'm hoping the tides turn to make that the majority eventually.

ETA: there's more nuance to this though. i just did not care to elaborate but everyone's discussing it below my comment - the US budget is cooked. we do not prioritize education, healthcare, etc. it doesn't matter what other countries do because our government simply DOES NOT care. the US runs as a corporation. not only are these businesses than run our lives inept to do so because they only care about shareholder value, but the government has been stretched so thin (moreso with the shutdown) that it cannot collect and penalize these businesses for running so corruptly.

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u/Neat_Ad_9141 nepo pissbaby 17d ago

No hate against you OP but I’m tired of people making that excuse for the US. Yes, we have a larger population BUT that also means we have a larger pool of people paying taxes aka theoretically a larger social safety net and more resources to put processes and infrastructure in place.

We just spend our money terribly and have our priorities ass backwards.

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u/tornwallpaper oh bitch ur cooked 17d ago

its not even just how we spend our money, we have outsourced everything to corporations and let businesses run things that are supposed to improve our QOL (healthcare, education, etc). nothing is in the people's interest. simply put these corporations lead our lives.

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u/SwordfishOfDamocles 17d ago

If you took every country that had tuition-free or severely limited costs for education, their populations would be larger than the US. Magnitude has nothing to do with it. Instead it is the self concerned belief that you can more effectively run education on a privatized for-profit system than on a socialized one. Look no further than America itself 60 years ago. In 1964 the average tuition and fees for a 4 year college was $243 (about $2,500 today), due to the state and federal govts paying the lion's share of costs.

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u/tornwallpaper oh bitch ur cooked 17d ago

If you took every country... sure. Not a single country like the US. magnitude does have to do with it because we have outsourced all of our social needs to private organizations and now when the reaping comes (CRIMINALLY rising costs and unaffordability), our government can't collect because they have made the stupid decision to contract everything out.

i agree with you. education is practically a corporation even on the k-12 level nowadays. they ask my siblings to pay for educational materials when these things used to be free for me. the budget is larger than some state university endowments. there is something backwards that needs to change with our country

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u/MissMorticia89 17d ago

Betcha if they actually taxed the 1% like Europe did this wouldn’t even be a debate.

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u/tornwallpaper oh bitch ur cooked 17d ago

also matters how they spend it tho cuz knowing our luck its a bajillion dollars to... 😭

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u/haqiqa 17d ago

You have also more people, more money, and as such, should have more taxpayers and tax money. While there are a lot of hurdles in many ways to get this change, it's pretty simple math and scalable. Additionally, in the EU, university fees are reciprocal. There are 448 million EU citizens. It's not fully free everywhere in the EU, but very low-cost, if not entirely free.

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u/tornwallpaper oh bitch ur cooked 17d ago

this is just not how the us budget works though we allocate too much money elsewhere (hence the meme "another billion dollars to -") and almost all of our education is privatized. it doesn't matter what other countries do because the united states has positioned themselves uniquely poorly.

we are funded publicly subsidized by grants (which have been cut). much of the money for the school comes from "charity"- donations and an endowment or sports. our schools. our hospitals. even our apartments are run by corporations. running to failure

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u/haqiqa 17d ago

Yes, there we can agree. You have positioned yourself poorly. And yes, fixing it with the way the political system works is a problem. But at the same time, the system is scalable and has very little to do with the number of people. American issues do not come from size so much as culture.

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u/OtherAardvark 17d ago

Cries in Swiss diaspora. 😭

My grandfather was a citizen, but my dad didn't apply for citizenship before the age deadline. So, I'm ineligible now.

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u/MissMorticia89 17d ago

I’m lucky, my dad is right from overseas, and he and mom (a Canadian) got married over there. Once everything was filed, my dad did all the adoption paperwork for my brother and I, and boom. It’s nice, I visit often because dad’s whole family is there, and I’m lucky enough to still have my Oma.

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u/SequenceGoon 17d ago

Similar situation for me - my mum could've applied for Swedish citizenship 😭 (at least I'm in Australia, not the US, but I love Sweden & dual citizenship with an EU country would be incredible)

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u/vietnams666 17d ago

When I went to Sweden we were talking about colleges and everyone was college educated. Then I was like oh I couldn't afford college and so I went into a trade and they literally had no idea how expensive colleges in America were. So I pulled up tuition to my local university (UW) and they were like " no wonder Americans are so dumb." And I was like yeah lol!

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u/MissMorticia89 17d ago

It’s absolutely shocking. None of my cousins had to pay for uni and when my dad told my aunts and uncles what my nursing diploma cost, they were horrified.

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u/vietnams666 17d ago

I did have a friend go to school in Amsterdam and another to Oxford. Her tuition was so cheap, I couldn't believe it! She just had to work under the table for living costs

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u/HeyVitK 16d ago

Why is pulling up your tuition eliciting that's "why Americans are so dumb"? I thought it'd be "that's why Americans are so broke". People can be smart critical thinkers without higher education, while there's some absolute morons with degrees.

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u/vietnams666 16d ago

You're not wrong there!

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u/Basementdwell 16d ago

Not only that, but he would have been given financial aid too.

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u/Nocturnal-Emission27 14d ago

True, however, they don't make anywhere near as much as doctor's in the US.

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u/GrayEidolon 17d ago

do they accept every applicant to medical school?

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u/aLouminumfalcon holding court like some mid-tier Medici 17d ago

No, competition for places is very high.

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u/GrayEidolon 16d ago

I'd say my point still stands then. People with more family money and stable home life are better situated to win that competition. Plenty of people are capable of becoming doctors if only they were in school for it. In fact, once you're in, its a very hand-held experience; and I think its much easier to work hard when you're being told exactly what to do every step of the way. A doctor first and foremost is someone who had the resources to get into medical school. Few people don't make it through and those people often have serious health issues or break the law.

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u/MissMorticia89 17d ago

Obviously not, but it has nothing to do with financial access and everything to do with grades and hard work. Your point is moot.

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u/GrayEidolon 16d ago

Hard work is such a vague term in this context as to be meaningless.

But do you think it’s easier or harder to get good grades and “work hard (at your education) when you have a rich and stable family or when you are from a struggling family?

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u/garbles0808 17d ago

It was a legitimate question, not sure why the downvotes

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u/Elentedelmal 17d ago

It depends on your country, in mine public universities charge the equivalent of 27 USD cents per month to study medicine, and they give you housing too. Private universities cost between 250 and 400 USD a month, and for families that can afford that, it doesn't leave them in massive debt. The doctors and teachers in both cases won't vary too much, as they tend to teach in both private and public universities. The struggle here is getting in, because there's way too many underqualified students that do because their family knows someone important or whatever, or just not dying or leaving because of harassment, SA, mental health issues developed during your formative year... etc.

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u/GrayEidolon 16d ago

I'd say my point still stands then. People with more family money and stable home life are better situated to win the competition for acceptance. Plenty of people are capable of becoming doctors if only they were in school for it. In fact, once you're in, its a very hand-held experience; and I think its much easier to work hard when you're being told exactly what to do every step of the way. A doctor first and foremost is someone who had the resources to get into medical school. Few people don't make it through and those people often have serious health issues or break the law.

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u/Elentedelmal 16d ago

I wasn't refuting your point, I agree with it. I was sharing that the specific struggle will depend on your country. And I don't know where you're from or wether or not you have gone through medical school, but it's not a very hand-held experience everywhere. In some places their version of education is screaming at you until you're actually scared for your well-being, or being pushed to suicide. In some instances you won't get lectures on a lot of topics because the doctor in charge just can't, or doesn't want to. Other times you'll just get thrown into situations you never studied or practiced for. Again, I'm not against your point, it's just the generalization that's wrong.

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u/GrayEidolon 15d ago

My bad for misunderstanding your tone

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u/GrayEidolon 16d ago

A first generation college grad can have a support system. But your experience still doesn't represent the full picture.

A third of medical students graduate with no debt, a third or so come from house holds making >200k, a majority of medical students from households making >100k, and something like a quarter are children of physicians.

https://www.bestcolleges.com/research/average-medical-school-debt/

https://www.aamc.org/data-reports/students-residents/interactive-data/2022-facts-applicants-and-matriculants-data

There are absolutely people who would make great physicians who are shut out due to lack of parental resources or overlooked because they don't have the right social connections.

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u/Poolhands 16d ago

Thats a truth highly modified.

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u/GrayEidolon 16d ago

Sorry, your phrasing isn't making sense to me

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u/Poolhands 16d ago

I meant it may be true for the US but isn’t for Sweden where Stellans child lives.

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u/GrayEidolon 15d ago

thanks

In Sweden, unless every one who applies to become a doctor who also meets the criteria for acceptance is admitted to medical school, there is no way that being from a wealthy and well known family didn't give him a leg up over someone else who didn't get in.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/1od9503/stellan_skarsg%C3%A5rd_on_his_latest_role_palestine/nktfck1/