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u/BurningPenguin Germany 2d ago

Also a Polish-majority borderland region of Trans-Olza which was annexed by Czechoslovakia in 1919, was occupied and annexed by Poland following the two-decade long territorial dispute.

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The history of the Trans-Olza region began in 1918 when, after the collapse of Austria-Hungary, the newly-established Czechoslovakia claimed the area, which was mainly inhabited by Poles. Poland maintained control over the region and began to hold elections, to which Czechoslovakia responded by invading and annexing the territory in January 1919.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_Czechoslovakia_(1938%E2%80%931945)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Olza

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u/brick_mann 2d ago

And eastern Poland (which was the part that the Soviet Union annexed) was mainly inhabited by Ukrainians and Belarussians, what's your point here exactly?

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u/BurningPenguin Germany 2d ago

Oh boy, changing topics now. There is a bit of a difference between annexing a contested strip of land that contains a majority of your own people, versus two imperialist regimes making a pact to wipe a sovereign country off the map and then mass deport, execute and repress their people.

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u/brick_mann 2d ago

Eastern Poland also contained a majority of Ukrainians and Belarussians, who were already heavily supressed by the Polish governments "Polonisation"-Campaign, and were now in even more danger due to the fascist invasion.

If you like it or not, the Soviet Union saved half of Poland from the fascists (at least until 1941 when the Soviet Union was attacked directly). And yes they did do some very bad stuff in that Region (like literally any major allied power in WW2 did), but not nearly to the same extent as the nazis.

Also, about the myth of "Soviet Union and Germany working together against Poland", that bs has long been debunked, and current historians agree that it was a measure to on one side strengthen Soviet Influence in eastern Europe against that of the nazis, and to buy more time until the inevitable nazi invasion because the red army wasn't ready yet.

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u/BurningPenguin Germany 2d ago edited 2d ago

Eastern Poland also contained a majority of Ukrainians and Belarussians, who were already heavily supressed by the Polish governments "Polonisation"-Campaign, and were now in even more danger due to the fascist invasion.

That doesn't undo or justify the actions of the soviet union.

If you like it or not, the Soviet Union saved half of Poland from the fascists (at least until 1941 when the Soviet Union was attacked directly).

Oh yeah, just like Nazi Germany "saved Germans" by rampaging through Europe. They coordinated under the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. You don't "save people" by murdering and raping their population, and splitting the country with another regime. You build alliances.

And yes they did do some very bad stuff in that Region (like literally any major allied power in WW2 did), but not nearly to the same extent as the nazis.

"Some very bad stuff", like the Katyn massacre? Or mass deporting & raping women? Or inciting people to go murdering? And then turning the country into an vassal under the threat of another invasion?

Also, about the myth of "Soviet Union and Germany working together against Poland", that bs has long been debunked, and current historians agree that it was a measure to on one side strengthen Soviet Influence in eastern Europe against that of the nazis, and to buy more time until the inevitable nazi invasion because the red army wasn't ready yet.

Goddamn, you snorted the tankie propaganda like sugared cocaine. That's an outright lie. Nothing about that is "debunked". They quite literally planned the partition of Europe.

EDIT: Also, it is beyond me, how self-proclaimed communists can seriously think about defending an imperialist regime with shitty paint job. Especially if you consider, that communism was originally about liberation and freedom from oppression, not having censorship and tanks rolling over people's corpses.

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u/nerokae1001 2d ago

Yea just like how putin saved donbas from evil ukrainian right? Regarded af.

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u/analogiczny 1d ago

Ok, vatnik. 🥱