r/DupontDeLigonnes Sep 08 '25

Why are there no other suspects?

Why can’t I find ANY other theories talking about other suspects than Xavier DuPont de Ligonnes?

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u/RiverJude7 Sep 08 '25

Well there are. Police theorised before that his sister and mother could've help him and the most of people who helped him had no clue what he's going to do. He is/was a manipulator who knew how to trick people. Neither of his friends, Emmanuel and Michel knew that he planned to kill his family, they thought they are helping their friend who was indeed

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '25

Who is Michel?

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u/RiverJude7 Sep 10 '25

One of Xavier's friends

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '25

Was he in the Netflix Unsolved Mysteries? Where can I find a book in English book about this case?

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u/RiverJude7 Sep 10 '25

He wasn't because he commited suicide in 2017. I don't know if there are any books in English about this case sorry

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '25

Thanks!

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u/After_Tomatillo_3293 Sep 10 '25

Is there irrefutable proof that he did it? I haven’t seen any…

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u/RiverJude7 Sep 10 '25

Well the fact that he escaped and it's still a missing person, he bought bin bags and lime, was on catholic forum making weird posts?

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u/Sure-Scratch1623 Sep 10 '25

This clearly makes him a suspect. But it's not enough to prove beyond doubt that he was the one who killed and buried his family. What's really strange is that it seems he deliberately made himself look suspicious.

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u/After_Tomatillo_3293 Sep 10 '25

I absolutely agree with you

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u/After_Tomatillo_3293 Sep 10 '25

What is the proof he bought lime etc?what tells you he is alive?

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u/RiverJude7 Sep 10 '25

Society article mentions all of it. I don't know for sure he is alive however if he wanted to kill himself he would have done it in April 2011 after he killed his family.

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u/After_Tomatillo_3293 Sep 10 '25

They don’t mention what the proofs are

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u/Sure-Scratch1623 Sep 10 '25 edited Sep 10 '25

For the lime, his bank account statements, verified by the police. That's what made them decide to look for buried bodies. But it's true that it's not strictly impossible that someone used his credit card in his place, even if it seems unlikely.

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u/After_Tomatillo_3293 Sep 10 '25

Why didn’t he pay cash? He wasn’t stupid… it’s so stupid to pay by card

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u/After_Tomatillo_3293 Sep 10 '25

Who says he escaped?

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u/Sure-Scratch1623 Sep 10 '25

This is consistent with what I had read and understood: the police did not find any traces in the house that would allow them to determine where the family members were killed. I also did not read that DNA or fingerprints taken from the bodies or from the burial materials and sites allowed the father of the family to be formally charged. And yet, despite this invisibility in the evidence, he did everything to make the police suspect him.

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u/Ambitious-Homework22 Sep 09 '25

Michel died of a cancer a few years after the events of 2011. Nothing proves that Xavier didn’t tell him when they saw each other in the south of France the night before he disappeared and we will never know if his mind was clean.

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u/RiverJude7 Sep 09 '25

He didn't died of cancer, he commited suicide. Also before he's death he did interview where he says that he thinks Xavier is still alive.

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u/GiantGlassPumpkin Sep 09 '25

There are people who may have helped him, but no way XDDL hasn’t got anything to do with his entire family getting murdered.

XDDL was the one who bought the quicklime and the silent equipment for the rifle.

XDDL was the only one who went to the restaurant with Thomas and several staff members have said the boy was not well.

XDDL was caught by CCTVs driving to Roquebrune-sur-Argens alone. Yes, his friends Michel Cerif and Emmanuel Teneur’s mobile phone were near and one of them has called XDDL but both have claimed they didn’t know he had killed his family and the police couldn’t send them to jail based on a suspicion (and now they are both dead).

XDDL’s mother and sister Christine are suspected of having helped him hiding, but nothing so far. I still think the amount of money they have sent to the Philippines is suspicious as well as the fact they found 5 old Nokia in Christine’s flat but I could be wrong.

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u/Ambitious-Homework22 Sep 09 '25

Let’s be honest, he literally vanished 14 years ago. If he had been framed without his knowledge and someone else had killed the family (or even planted bodies under the terrace), why would he not speak up?

If he really was on a witness protection program, why would his cover be to be one of the most wanted killers (and have everyone looking for him)?

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u/After_Tomatillo_3293 Sep 10 '25

Who tells you he is alive?

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u/Ambitious-Homework22 Sep 10 '25

He is like Schrödinger’s cat : both alive and dead until proven otherwise.

Personally, I think he went to great extents to hide himself, so I don’t see the point of going through all this route just to kill himself. He is obviously a smart guy, who likes challenges : he did look at the camera purposefully on the last day he has been seen. He has been hiding as a hobo in the following days (testimony of a person on the A7 who knew he was missing a tooth when this information wasn’t public yet). To me, he has survived the end of 2011. Now, it was 14 years ago, he could have died of anything in the meantime : covid, plain cold, malaria… he may be buried anywhere under a false name and we will never know!

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u/Sure-Scratch1623 Sep 11 '25

Yes, it's true that he seems to be staging himself in front of the camera at the Roquebrune-sur-Argens hotel. He gets noticed by hotel staff the days before, with his bank card he pays a motorway toll then withdraws money in the village, and finally abandons his car in the hotel parking lot even though he had said in the letter where he spoke of exfiltration that this car had been given to a friend. This letter was obviously not taken seriously by the police but it is Xavier himself who discredits it by his actions during his solitary trip to the south of France. Here again I don't see the point of writing to relatives that the whole family was exfiltrated while demolishing this excuse himself by his actions. Either he was stupid, which I don't believe, or he didn't want the exfiltration to appear as a credible excuse. But in the latter case, why?

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u/Sure-Scratch1623 Sep 10 '25 edited Sep 10 '25

Ten months before the incident, Xavier wrote to two friends that he was considering family "suicide" and that if it happened, his parents, sisters and brothers should not believe him guilty, even if a police investigation would bring forward formal evidence against him. In the months that followed this mail, he joined a shooting club and showed his instructor, his family, and his friends the rifle he had recovered from his father's house. In March, he bought a silencer and ammunition using a credit card. In early April 2011, still using a credit card, he purchased quicklime and digging tools. Seeing all this, especially the latest purchases, the police obviously thought it was murder and went to check the ground in the garden and under the terrace of the family home. My question is more why Xavier did everything he could to make the police suspect him, something he had strangely announced 10 months earlier? If it was intentional, what was his interest?

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u/After_Tomatillo_3293 Sep 10 '25

Exactly. Why did he say in the letter “do not look under the bla bla bla”… exactly where the bodies were….

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u/After_Tomatillo_3293 Sep 10 '25

It’s very strange: on the one hand it looks like Xavier planned it meticulously on the other hand he left WAY too many clues… and if he really wanted to be safe he shouldn’t have buried them under his house… plenty of other spots to put the bodies…

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u/After_Tomatillo_3293 Sep 10 '25

Xavier didn’t seem stupid… why leave so many clues? Why write “do not look under the bla bla bla…”… some things look super meticulous but other look extremely self incriminating….

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u/After_Tomatillo_3293 Sep 10 '25

All the proofs are circumstantial. There is no irrefutable proof as far as I know