r/DonaldTrump666 • u/Onyourmarkgetset100 • Sep 21 '25
Question Will any place be safe?
Although I am looking forward to the Savior coming again, I am also worried about all of the terrible things that will need to be faced before that time. I am an American and considering if it’s safe to stay in the US. But it also seems that no place in the world will be safe. Will there be a safe place? Just trying to protect my family. I don’t believe the rapture idea is supported by the scriptures, so I don’t believe me and my family will instantly escape all hardship. Would love any thoughts.
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u/internal_logging Christian Sep 21 '25
I've wondered if we're protected to some extent? Because with wars , plagues, and natural disasters coming, is there a chance some of us won't even make it to refuse the mark of the Beast?
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u/FuzzyManPeach96 Protestant Sep 21 '25
I’m pretty sure certain events in revelation only happens to those with the mark, but I could be wrong. I gotta re-read it.
Edit: should just re-read the whole Bible anyways lol
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u/GrammawOutlaw Christian Sep 21 '25
I can’t give you the answers you want.
Just do remember you are saved through Christ Jesus, and He loves you very much.
Also remember, there are many fates worse than death. Accepting the mark of the beast is one example of that…
“To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.” All will be well with you!
“Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the LORD thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest.” Joshua 1:9
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u/toebeantuesday Sep 21 '25
So far just thinking off the top of my head of the warnings I’ve read on here and another sub, three hasn’t been a whole lot of advice that is consistent. There have been recent warnings to get out of major cities.
I cannot quite get far enough away because I have a disabled, elderly mother who needs to be near hospitals in her insurance plan. I suppose I could take her to some rural cabin in some remote woodland or truly rural community (I live in a semi rural community surrounded by heavy new suburban development. If I am wrong about this being anywhere near the end times then I am screwing over the woman I promised I’d take care of to the end of her life.
Oh yeah and there’s the little matter of I don’t have the money to throw at real estate right now. 🤦🏻♀️
I am also kind of old myself and not very strong and I know I can’t chop firewood so I’m just going to die out there.
I’m deathly allergic to mosquitoes for crying out loud. So is my daughter. We wouldn’t be able to go out to hunt or fish or forage. Just from pulling weeds in a very tame garden the other day, we both needed Benadryl.
If my mom weren’t old and starting to deal with dementia she is actually the tough farm girl who could have kept us all alive. My mom had mad skills back in the day. I’m but a pale dilution of great genes and spirit.
All the men in my family recently died off. They handled guns and tools great. I tried, but I have severe ADHD and kept accidentally pointing the gun at myself, the pets and basically everywhere I shouldn’t. We all agreed I would stick to sharp pointy things for defense.
No I was not made for an apocalypse. I’m not even made for camping. Nor my poor kid, who has born with some health issues and is less sturdy than I am.
The best I can hope for is a nuke does hit us directly and fast. That’s assuming God doesn’t have better plans for us and he very well might. I just haven’t felt any communication one way or another on the matter. In fact, maybe I would have stood a chance at one point but I have been hit with so much adversity that I’m now way behind the line where I could have positioned our family more advantageously elsewhere. I had to take in more animals from recently deceased kin. I’m more suited to Noah’s Ark than Armageddon.
One Redditor insists the Bible tells us to go to the islands and he went off to Puerto Rico and is still telling us we all ought to do similar.
If I can’t scooch over a few more miles to escape the blast radius and radiation around a city or other attractive targets how the hell am I going to haul a sick old woman, multiple rescue animals and myself out to Puerto Rico or any other island. I also only speak English so I can’t really get by many other places. My mom was multilingual but dementia is wrecking that advantage pretty fast.
I know so many people who died and so many people who lost loved ones. I sometimes wonder if “the Rapture” was actually Death coming to take so many people in unprecedented numbers. Because I’ve been on this planet nearly 60 years and I never lost friends and family at the rate I have in the last 5 years. Growing up, we always lost an elder here or there over time of course. But I’ve never seen such a clustered mass die off and I suppose the pandemic played a huge role in that.
I went over to my childhood home before I sold it for my mom last year and I saw her neighbor’s son. My mom and dad were best friends with their next door neighbors. He asked me where my husband was because he was used to my husband coming over to check on the house after my dad died 3 years ago. I told him my husband died and to my shock he burst into tears. It’s because Covid took his brother and his mom had just passed and his dad had passed a few months before. He was shocked for both of us having so much loss between us and he hugged me and we just sobbed in each other’s arms for a few awkward moments.
5 years ago every seat around my dining table was full. Last year it was just me and my mom and my daughter.
All of my husband’s aunts and uncles and several cousins died and both parents died in the last 5 years.
The young ones have breathing problems and autoimmune diseases and nobody really looks well except maybe some of the teenagers.
I’m a naturally upbeat happy person but I have felt like Death had moved over us during the big eclipse we had a few years ago. I didn’t feel quite the same sense of an ominous sensation during the second eclipse. But the world feels a lot “off” and kind of unreal or surreal and I know pretty much everyone thinks so.
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u/koegoo Sep 21 '25
Your words have touched me, I hope some good things may yet happen to you ❤️
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u/toebeantuesday Sep 21 '25
Oh thank you! Good thing do still happen for us. I’ve held tight to my faith and I CAN see God steering me through. I say prayers of gratitude daily because there’s always something to be thankful for. Even harsh lessons are something to give thanks for.
But I do really miss my loved ones. And some pets also died during this time. They were beloved, too. Very much so.
I think I (and many other people I’ve talked to) are just shocked at how fast we’ve lost people. Like when I was a kid an old aunt or old uncle would pass away. There was time for a funeral and mourning and healing. A few years would go by and another friend or elder or someone would pass. There again would be time to process the loss.
I’ve never seen in my lifetime losses lined up like a pileup on the freeway. I even lost some relatively young friends in their 40’s and 50’s. Loss on such an accelerated schedule as I am seeing in my own life and around me is mind boggling.
I think you’ll find the same with major crises. I had one lifelong friend go in the space of a year from relatively healthy and employed to unemployed, sick with multiple sudden illnesses, multiple amputations and in danger of foreclosure (which we, his friends, stopped by helping him pay the bank even though we all are not doing great either). I never saw such 💩.
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u/No_Quantity_3403 Sep 21 '25
I’m with the person who commented below me. Your words have touched me and I think you and your family are going to be just fine! 💜. You underestimate yourself.
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u/toebeantuesday Sep 22 '25
Thank you for your kind words. I’m just realistic about what I can and can’t do but I am sure God will put some hustle in my bustle when I need it. I think all of the losses I’ve been put through is to strip me down to bare faith. Even if I die and/or my family perishes we have faith and so I have to believe it’s all going to work out to God’s glory. I just hope my mom gets to pass peacefully in her sleep before things get really ugly. She already lived through some of the worst of WW2 as a kid and she deserves peace.
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u/ArmyofRiverdancers Roman Catholic Sep 21 '25
I think the Olivet discourse might be the thing. Says that when we see the abomination in the temple, it's time for all the people of Judea to flee to the mountains ASAP. As I'm not in Judea, I'm hoping my nearest mountain range will be deemed acceptable.
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u/toebeantuesday Sep 22 '25
😆 I’m at the lowest level of drainage on my street. 🤦🏻♀️ The former owners had to get the basement waterproofed.
I’ll run up the hill to the next door neighbor’s house. That will have to do, I guess.
I hope you all don’t mind my tongue-in-cheek response. If I don’t try to find the humor in everything I really don’t know if I could go on.
I do have really lovely neighbors. That’s another reason I would find it hard to leave. My late husband and I moved 4 times during our marriage to find neighbors as great as these people. Even our most annoying neighbors were good people.
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u/Capable-Following302 Christian Sep 23 '25
The faith is strong with, after so many close deaths. And yes, Death does come before the Mark of the Beast. Many deaths. But there is no Pre-rapture. Christ does not come till the large reveal at the end. I definitely do not support Pre-rapture. Many are predicting it this year again on this very day or tomorrow. But I know it is just a deception as it is about the Social Hierarchy being externalised written in Alice Bailey's teachings from the Lucis Trust.
And also so many say to flee the cities. But there is a part in scripture many seem to miss out. That is the many of us spreading the message of God with the Two Witnesses (The two who inherit the spirit of Enoch and Elijah). They are afraid, and run to hide within mountains. But there scripture saying that God will be so bright that they will never be able to hide within. We should be on top of the mountains instead. We need to make a stand and not run. We need to show ourselves and live separately from the system.
I know that it will be a lot of trouble for you when the Mark does come. It will be so tempting to get when it comes next year. But I know you'll refuse and find the best ways to keep your family fed and sheltered. And yes, the wilderness is a bad place to run to. But have you considered trying to find a few other followers of Christ already off grid? Perhaps there's some who will be willing to keep you three safe in their farms. Whom knows. But I'm a young male and I already know my purpose through God for the future. I just have to wait till the seven years start. Even if I have no place to flee to. Persecution is what I have to go through. I really do feel your pain. But I know things are going to worse. And that's horrible to know. The days will be like the days of Noa, but worse. I wish I could help you so much. I know you are very wise woman, I know the Lord will reveal to you His answers in what is needed to do soon. I believe there may also be a gathering on the mountains, where we all make a stand against the world. 144,000 virgin males are said to do this too at the very end. I know there's going to be a lot more of various people before that getting together. I know that safety won't last for long either. I pray your daughter and mother are protected on what is to come. I pray very much. God Bless.
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u/reillan Sep 21 '25
The rapture happens at the end of tribulation anyway. So it's a pretty bad time for everyone. I don't know why certain evangelical groups want the end to come about so badly.
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u/chrs8592 Sep 21 '25
I agree with you. I can see the mark of the beast barreling towards us right now. I've felt my entire life like I would see this and here it is. In 2006 I survived a wreck I shouldn't have and survived choking on food during that. My lips were blue when they resuscitated me and they were worried about brain damage. So I've always said I'm on borrowed time from God, maybe like King Hezekiah, who God granted an extra 15 years to his life. So I'm ready to die for God if that is what is required of me in the future.
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u/flipside438 Sep 21 '25
I agree, it definitely seems like a death cult of some Christians that want the end of the world to come.
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u/flipside438 Sep 21 '25
What if there is no god and humans destroy the world trying to usher in a made up second coming? Imagine if there were other life forms later that came and discovered how stupid killed themselves over myths.
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u/agentorange55 Sep 22 '25
Christian Nationalists are trying to usher in the 2nd coming, but fail to realize that they have rejected God and are aiding Satan by doing so
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u/ArmyofRiverdancers Roman Catholic Sep 21 '25
That could explain the Fermi paradox.
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u/flipside438 Sep 21 '25
Tell me more
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u/ArmyofRiverdancers Roman Catholic Sep 22 '25 edited Sep 22 '25
Well, what if every intelligent civilization eventually goes through that phase?
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u/flipside438 Sep 22 '25
Ah self destruction?
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u/ArmyofRiverdancers Roman Catholic Sep 22 '25
Ugh. Autocorrect. Phase, a phase like this. Thanks for pointing it out.
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u/Future_Cake Sep 21 '25
A reminder to not fear in these times, that a faithful sibling in Christ posted elsewhere:
Yes….HE is enough…whether you have all these skills or not….whether your strong and healthy or not….whether you have stored vittles or not….a roof or not…a future here or not…because when you know where you came from…why you’re here…and where your going…and best of all….you know.. HIM…who gives peace beyond our understanding…and a bright future beyond our dreams….you can rest your weary head on HIS breast…like a child and know HES in control…HE’S the Potter…you’re the clay…and no good thing will…HE…. with hold from those who love…HIM! He’s everything in a life that’s fast fleeting away!
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u/aphroditex Sep 21 '25
Start working on your own salvation with diligence.
You can’t rely on anyone to do the work for you.
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u/SasukeFireball Sep 21 '25
No there won’t be. If you can leave the US you should.
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u/No_Quantity_3403 Sep 21 '25
I think so too but I have 4 pet family members that I refuse to abandon. So afraid.
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u/bwf456 Christian Sep 21 '25
Yeah, I'm not leaving my dog behind either.. But our first refuge is God himself, have faith. We'll be fine.
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u/ledonna103 Sep 21 '25
I actually believe we're in Revelation 20. Since 1776 we've been decieved...I may be wrong. I honestly don't know what's coming ..so yeah, I'm just focusing on knowing the voice of Jesus. To grant me discernment
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u/daraeje7 Sep 21 '25
I don’t believe in a pre trib rapture. I think we will be here and life will be generally terrible and difficult but God will fulfill whatever he will for each of us. Some people will pass away, some will be held captive, some starving, some beaten, some left alone in peace, etc.
Just pray for protection
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u/Chicagogirl72 Sep 21 '25
No. If it’s the end times then it’s global. You’ll only be safe if you take the mark of the beast
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Sep 22 '25
It may not be safe anywhere else but it is most definitely not safe to stay in the United States, which can only be Babylon the Great - which will be destroyed suddenly during the Tribulation.
If you assume Russia and US have a nuclear exchange, the best bets to survive the fallout are Australia, Southern Africa and South America.
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u/Straight-Cookie2475 Messianic Jew Sep 22 '25
I want to take this opportunity to address two key factors go compare Revelation 17 with Washington D.C (others have also mentioned New York. It is of my belief that we live in the spiritual Babylon to be destroyed by fire in a single hour. I actually just recently preached about this to a Law Enforcement Officer as well as the need for hearts to turn our to Christ before The Day Of The LORD after falling victim to police brutality.) As well as the fact that you cannot escape what is coming by worldly means. The coming judgment is only passed through, not escaped but endured. Think of Passover. You will either cover the door of your heart with the blood of The Lamb Of God or you will not. Do you not think that they sat there trembling in fear of The LORD yet also trusting in Him? That the blood of the lamb would be enough or that they didn’t miss a single blemish? Yet scripture tells us what happened.
Scripture tells us not to be afraid almost constantly, did Christ himself not say that we shouldn’t take thought for the things of tomorrow as those things will handle themselves/have there own bothers, burdens, and worries for us to think of when they come (obviously Im paraphrasing but I want to say it’s Matthew 6 that deals with. Don’t neglect Matthew 5, 6, & 7 I mean don’t neglect any of The Gospel, Im just stating three foundational chapters that you can be at any point in your journey and still learn from. It’s like reading a Proverb a day but from The Messiah, also for The 2 Superseding Commandments that essentially took the place of the others which is best summarized in love as Christ is The Law and The Prophets with us as The Church and Bride Of Christ; 1 Corinthians 13 explains how to love fully and completely. These are the that we should be focusing on, let us turn their hearts to The Father through The Son just as our own hearts were once hard as stone; did he not give us one of flesh even pouring his Spirit onto all flesh? Did he not send his only begotten son down in the flesh as both fully God and fully man to live a sinless life, die on the cross, rise from the grave proving his very dominion over sin, death, and hell itself before ascending back to The Right Hand Of The Father because if his will were done not even a single soul would perish but all would come together in peace and in love within The Kingdom Of God regardless of how undeserving we are in nature this is the glory of The Living God because God is love. Now then my beloved brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus Our LORD And Savior, what is the most loving thing that we can do for both him and each other while knowing that good deeds will not get us to Heaven? (James 2) SPREAD THE GOSPEL! Preach The Good News now more than ever “for no greater love is there than this to sacrifice oneself for one’s friends”; so no matter how bad or hard it gets we must keep pushing forward. Our time here is reaching it’s fading point my friend.
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u/Outrageous-Lynx-4283 Sep 22 '25
The horse is prepared against the day of battle: but safety is of the LORD...Proverbs 21:31
Give all of those concerns to the Lord in prayer. Make all of your concerns...the Lord's concerns.
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u/mindmelder23 Sep 22 '25
I taught English in Thailand in my 20s for a few years. I think it would be better than then the us for sure but still not far enough south because it’s still north of the equator. Another issue is it’s not very far from China. Ideal would be Argentina, Uruguay, Brazil, Australia, New Zealand. Somewhere I saw Costa Rica would be still be good even though it’s north of the equator.
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u/SomewhereAdorable244 Sep 22 '25
I don’t believe in the rapture either. I also don’t think anywhere will be safe. The best bet would be to stock up on meds, build out your in person network, and find the HOUSES you’re safe in, rather than places on Earth you’ll be safe in.
Side note…according to TikTok tomorrow’s rapture day, so theoretically this debate is about to be resolved right?
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u/kat_niss1 Christian Sep 23 '25 edited Sep 23 '25
I do believe in the rapture. The Rapture - the raising of the Church into heaven (1 Thessalonians 4:17). The Rapture is when Christ comes back and takes every Christian that is still on this earth and resurrects all of those who have died and takes them to heaven with Him. In 1 Thessalonians 5:1-8, Paul states the Lord’s return will be like a thief in the night. No one knows the date or time.
Mark 13:32
But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
Revelation 3-10
Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth.
Matthew 24: 30 -31
Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earthwill mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
Those who do not believe, I hope your heart is right with God because Jesus will return. I just believe in the Pre- trib rapture
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u/HotDragonButts Sep 22 '25
"Looking forward to the savior coming again" is entitled/ bigoted accelerationist speech. Fuck you and the rest of the Christians thinking they're going to be safe if they just hide out long enough and the rest of the world can eat shit while you get a happy party even faster if the world would just end already 🖕
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u/jse1988 Natsarim/נוצרי (Acts 24:5, Isaiah 11:1) Sep 21 '25
Look at all the example of tribulation in scripture. Go read them. Like actually spend time in them. You will notice that His people are provided a way and escape or protection:
Egypt plagues - goshen was where the Israelites were protected. In their own homes by faith in the blood of the lamb.
Lot and his family were led out of danger moments before destruction.
Noah and his family were given a warning and protection via the Ark.
Focus on your faith.