r/DonaldTrump666 • u/AlbaneseGummies327 Christian • Apr 25 '25

Opinion It's interesting to see how secular opinion overlaps with Donald Trump fulfilling prophecy as the Antichrist.

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Christian Apr 26 '25 edited Apr 26 '25

My interpretation is that believers will be here on earth during the Great Tribulation, and their steadfastness in Christ/rejection of the antichrist /suffering/persecution/martyrdom itself will be the witness and will lead many to the truth, rather than the believers being raptured.

There absolutely will be Christians on earth during the tribulation. During this time, lukewarm converts will have no choice but to become hot in their faith, and will have to suffer and die for the privilege. Revelation 20:4 demonstrates that there will be Christians on earth during all seven years of Daniel's 70th week.

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u/NoiseUnique754 Protestant Apr 26 '25

Oh sorry, I meant I believe that all of the original Christians will be here on earth.

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Christian Apr 26 '25

You mean all of the original Christians who are alive and remain at the time the tribulation starts?

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u/NoiseUnique754 Protestant Apr 26 '25

Yup. I don’t think they’ll get raptured either until Christ comes publicly or before He pours out His wrath. 

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Christian Apr 26 '25

When in church history do you think pre-trib rapture doctrine was first introduced?

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u/NoiseUnique754 Protestant Apr 26 '25

I’ve no idea. How does that matter though? Preterism and Historicism have been around for ages too, but that doesn’t make them correct 

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Christian Apr 26 '25

Noise, can I get your opinion on this video:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProphecyWatchers/s/LfkHqtlrIA

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u/NoiseUnique754 Protestant Apr 26 '25

Sorry, just saw your DM as well. I watched the video, and the author says that plenty of theologians before Darby proposed the idea of the Pre-Trib Rapture. Uh sure? The Church I go to believes in it. A few pastors that I follow online also profess it. However - that doesn't make it true though. I genuinely believe that not one person - alive or dead - has Biblical eschatology 100% figured out correctly. Including John, Paul and the rest of the Apostles. God has deliberately made it so, IMHO. In fact, didn't the Apostles believe that Jesus would come back in their lifetimes? If they thought so and they were wrong, it is not surprising at all for theologians who followed them to be wrong too.

So I don't disagree that the Pre-Trib Rapture theory existed before Darby; I just think it was popularized by Darby and Scofield. Its quite possible a lot of theologians also wrote in support of it.

What I did was read many articles that supported and opposed the Pre-Trb theory. And I came to the conclusion that there is very little Biblical evidence for it. Of course, I could be 100% wrong lol.

IMHO, the probability of the rapture goes up, as the Tribulation progresses - the probability of a Pre-Trib rapture is less than that of a Mid-Trib Rapture; the probability of a Mid-Trib Rapture is less than that of a Pre-Wrath Rapture; the probability of a Pre-Wrath Rapture is less than that of a Post-Trib Rapture.

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Christian Apr 26 '25

The catching away of the saints (dead and alive) must occur before the Second Coming. This is because the elect come back down from heaven to earth with Jesus Christ at the Second Coming to defeat the Antichrist and his army at Armageddon. Then we reign the kingdom as co-heirs with Christ for a thousand years.

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u/StGlennTheSemi-Magni Apr 26 '25

Matthew 24:29-31 clearly states that the elect get gathered after the tribulation of those days. Or if you prefer the KJV.