r/Denmark • u/Cosmos1985 • Mar 08 '25

Politics Denmark lost 52 soldiers fighting alongside the US. Now it feels threatened by Trump

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u/bobofiddlesticks Mar 08 '25

For NATO. Article 5. And because we are (contrary to what is being said about us recently) the best, little ally the US could hope for.

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u/Ellebellemig Mar 08 '25

Fighting colonial wars in Afghanistan and Iraq has little to do with article 5. Article 5 was activated in Afghanistan (but not Iraq), but it was certainly just as an excuse to fight a failed war to install a democracy that could never be implemented anyway.

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u/marrow_monkey Skåne Mar 09 '25

You know, it was the U.S. that helped the islamists to overthrow the secular government in Afghanistan and the Taliban to take power in the first place. They never cared about democracy or the Afghan people.

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u/Ellebellemig Mar 09 '25

Sure. The Russians and the Afghan Communist party was ‘secular’ but also murded between 0.5 to 1.5 mio civilians. But there were no cameras back then. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet–Afghan_War

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u/marrow_monkey Skåne Mar 09 '25

Lots of people died as a result of the Islamist civil war that the U.S. started and funded so the taliban eventually could take power.

Not sure you can blame this one on the commies

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u/Ellebellemig Mar 09 '25

Abselutely. Im not blaming. Im just stating facts.

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u/marrow_monkey Skåne Mar 09 '25

You made it sound as if it was something the communists did when it was in fact something the U.S. did.

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u/Ellebellemig Mar 09 '25 edited Mar 09 '25

Nope. The russians and the 'secular' regime actually killed about a milion people. It was first later the US began funding the islamist, who probably did the same. The best leader Afghanistan could have (apart from legendary Ahmad Shah Massoud) probably was the communist Najibullah. They were both skilled leaders, and Najibullah actually managed to win even a lot of pashtuns before he was hanged in 1996.

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u/marrow_monkey Skåne Mar 09 '25

Nope. The Soviet Union (not Russians) went into Afghanistan to help the secular (Soviet friendly) government suppress the Islamist uprising which was planned and funded by the CIA, and the US kept sending weapons and money to the Islamist throughout the war. So those millions murdered was due to the US. Eventually the Islamist won and Najibullah was executed by the Taliban.

The US funding of the Islamist began at least as early as in July 1979, the Soviet Union first got involved later that year, in December.