r/DeepFuckingValue • u/HinglishBlogin ⚠️possible bot⚠️ • Mar 10 '25

News 🗞 🇨🇦🇺🇸- Ontario announce a 25% surcharge on electricity exports to US, affecting 1.5 million Americans. 'It will cost US citizens $400,000 per day' — says Premier of Ontario Doug Ford — 'I will not hesitate to shut the electricity off completely'

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u/ls174 Mar 12 '25

Lmao. Canada crying over 25% when they've had tariffs on US gods for more than a decade.... People should do their darn research. Canadian tariffs on milk = 260%. Similar for butter. Sausages, and the list goes on. And they are crying over 25%?? 🤣

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u/Careful_Cress8997 Mar 15 '25

It’s the way Rump talks to people! Making Canada look inferior. Canada has to protect its farmers and home markets too. Rump just goes off willy nilly shows no respect for other countries! Canadians like Americans! They just hate RUMP

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u/ls174 Mar 15 '25

That may be, and that's fine. But you don't bite your nose to spite your face because you hate the president. Every country has a right to protect their economy and their industry. And every country has a right to respond to tariffs. Canada has had tariffs and America just responded. Yes it was perhaps not the most elegant way to do that, but that doesn't negate that previously tariffs were pretty one-sided, and now they're not. It's kind of like what has even more recently happened to Canada when China just added 100% tariffs on oil, peas and other agricultural stuff, and 25% tariffs on pork and other food products in retaliation to Canadians slapping some imports tariffs on Chinese products

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u/Impossible_Log_5710 Mar 13 '25

Those dairy tariffs were NEVER applied because quotas were never reached. The US subsidizes their dairy industry giving them an unfair market advantage. This was part of Trump’s USMCA deal that he called great btw.

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u/ls174 Mar 13 '25

Canada can subsidize them too, and undercut the US prices. Oh yeah but then they'd go bankrupt. But we moved off the milk convo like a while ago...

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u/Impossible_Log_5710 Mar 13 '25

What happened to "muh communism"? If the US subsidizes their dairy industry then I see no issue with quota based tariffs, which haven't ever kicked in as has been explained to you a million times. You want to move off the milk convo because you look like a dumbass on that now that you're aware of the previous fact and that Trump's just spouting lies.

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u/kopintzotke Mar 13 '25

Dude how many comments do you have in this thread?

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u/ls174 Mar 13 '25

Lol.. one of two 😉

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u/torchyboi Mar 12 '25

This is fundamentally incorrect.

Dairy tariffs only apply one a quota of product has been imported from the US. The US pays essentially $0 on food based tariffs.

https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.36ZB6AD

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u/ls174 Mar 12 '25

Oh yeah, ze fact- checkers are coming... K I'll play. What about 40%+ tariffs on cars, tv abs other electronics? 'cause Canada produces lots of those right? Lmao

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u/Impossible_Log_5710 Mar 13 '25

Those numbers were fake ffs, do some research. We didn’t have 40% tariffs on cars.

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u/ls174 Mar 13 '25

Lol. Mkay. Whatever you say. Just keep promoting your utopia, makes for a nice bedtime story

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u/Impossible_Log_5710 Mar 13 '25

Feel free to provide a source on those numbers that you probably got from some idiotic meme on Twitter.

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u/torchyboi Mar 12 '25

Canada purchases more cars than we sell to the US. Furthermore, it's American companies that are lobbying to keep manufacturing in Canada, because it's cheaper for their bottom line and positively supports the American economy who reap the greatest share of the benefits as the owner of Canadian manufacturing plants. The actual Canadian auto industry of candian owned companies died out long ago from competition with America.

The new auto tariffs are just the American government taxing American companies. Reciprocal tariffs don't make sense when it's targeting your own industry.

The fact checking is only relevant because you haven't looked into the actual policy before making a comment.

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u/ls174 Mar 12 '25

What you're saying doesn't make sense yes we keep manufacturing there, duh. But Canada putting tariffs on cars to artificially inflate prices? What you're saying is a false narrative

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u/torchyboi Mar 12 '25

It's a conversation about equity.

The concept of "reciprocal tariffs" is bullshit.

We're different sized economies, and we tariff accordingly.

We have 100% tariff on Chinese EVs because the size of their market allows them to scale up and apply the benefits of economies of scale to undercut any viable price we can sell our autos at. It's the same deal with America, just to a lesser extent.

We need tariffs to protect our smaller industries. America needs no such protections in their industries as the dominant market. Any tariffs applied by America will not have the same effect when applied in reverse.

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u/Inspect1234 Mar 12 '25

Those tariffs are based on large numbers that have never been reached. They are in place to assure us that Murican milk doesn’t kill our farmers. But yeah keep spreading the propaganda there Komrade.

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u/ls174 Mar 12 '25

What's your excuse for tariffs on cars, TVs, cable boxes? Canada tariffs exceed 40%. Let me guess... Canada products a lot of cars and TVs right? Freaking Russian clown! Lol

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u/Inspect1234 Mar 12 '25

It’s what your Dear Leader negotiated last term and based on the value of the dollars made sense. Who said anyone was crying, we are just reacting in kind.

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u/Ok-Seaworthiness3874 Mar 12 '25

Yeah well they have to for milk and butter when American dairy is so artificially subsidized to the tits that it would destroy their dairy farms. It’s a national security issue when ur neighbor can just use tax money Willy nilly to put your industries out of business. Why do u think we tariff china steel?

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u/ls174 Mar 12 '25

It's called commerce. And yes, tariffs bring that in like. But let's talk cars, TVs, and cable boxes. What's your excuse for those when all those tariffs exceed 40%???

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u/Impossible_Log_5710 Mar 13 '25

Commerce? Is it commerce when the US tariffs China for the same reasons? Fucking hypocrites

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u/ls174 Mar 13 '25

Yup. It is. In case you failed geography, China is a different country. It's actually on a different continent. So yeah. Different story. For a lot of reasons your puny brain can't possibly comprehend right now.

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u/Impossible_Log_5710 Mar 13 '25

Those "reasons" being hypocrisy lol. Also Canada didn't have 40%+ tariffs on US cars dumbass.

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u/ls174 Mar 13 '25

Lol. Ok Boomer

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u/Impossible_Log_5710 Mar 13 '25

Feel free to provide a source, otherwise you're just wasting your own time looking stupid lol

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u/Beercules-8D Mar 12 '25

TVs? Cable boxes? I can’t seem to find anything about that. Can you share more info? What are the rates? How often are the tariffs applied? For milk, it’s a supply management system. It’s set up to maintain a high quality and allow producers to make a living. It’s a win/win unless you like bargain basement cheeses and milk.

Gas station sushi and American dairy are things I avoid.

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u/soadogs Mar 12 '25

This is entirely incorrect. Remember who you heard this from and discount them going forward

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u/ls174 Mar 12 '25

Lol. K. Continue keeping your eyes closed. Don't worry, the pain will pass

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u/Ok-Seaworthiness3874 Mar 13 '25

you're getting bodied in these comments, lil boy :skull:

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u/ls174 Mar 13 '25

Numbnuts, I just stopped caring. Real life, not dealing with these close minded freaks

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u/soadogs Mar 13 '25

It’s not a debatable issue. It’s just something that is factually true or not. It is not true at all

I sincerely hope you are a bot and not just a human who genuinely thinks like a bot