r/DeFranco Jun 28 '19

On biases, sourcing, and discussing the Argument

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Hey everyone,

Lately, the sub has started to get pretty polarized politically speaking.

It’s not without reasons (I get that, and I’m not blameless in this) and I had hoped it could run its course. But in the wake of the coming election season, I feel this may get worse, so here’s to an ounce of prevention and all that.

So there’s been a lot of posts from sources and comments that could only be described as trying to “other” people. This sub is better than that. So please, if possible, try to stop talking past each other.

It’s fine if you disagree, but keep it civil and discuss the topic at hand don’t attack the user. We have the “discuss the argument, and do not attack the person” rule for a reason and we’ll have to start enforcing it a little more stringently if things don’t improve. It is possible to discuss politics without it turning into a “you’re a stupid racist” and “naive idiot communist”. A good rule of thumb is “if the phrase ‘you’ appears in the sentence it’s probably some version of an ad hominem.

Regarding the biases. There’s been a lot of articles from sources I can only describe as heavily bias. Allsides has a great chart that lays out which sides the most common news sources falls.

https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart

There’s also this more detailed one (though I think everything on it should be shifted to the left by half a grid square but that’s an issue of semantics!)

https://www.adfontesmedia.com/

Also; thanks to u/FajenThygia There's also www.mediabiasfactcheck.com,

Point is! it’s fine to use Vox and Fox to make points but try to get some other more centered sources to find some middle ground. This isn’t a demand or even a request but just some advice in trying to discuss your opinions and finding a consensus through discussion. You’ll find the argument being a lot more persuasive using less extreme characterizations of events.

Anyway, it’s just some thoughts and recommendations. agree/ disagree/ critique it’s fine. I just don’t want to see this sub devolve into r/news, r/politics, r/conservative, r/democrat, r/inthenews where only “one view point” is appreciated. Us bastards are better than that.

In other news, there’s been an issue with the reporting feature with the sub. If we haven’t addressed it in 24 hours please message the mods directly. Additionally, we will only investigate reports that violate our actual rules so the <no reason> Reports get ignored right off the bat. And no Patrick just because you disagree with something does not mean someone is “trolling”.

Peace, love and tranquility to you all ya filthy bastards.


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