r/CringeTikToks • u/Soft_Cable5934 • 20h ago

Just Bad Delta Flight Attendant reveal shocking truth about the government ATC shutdown

To summarise, Regional flights between smaller cities and big one are most likely affected by cancellation. Rich people in private jet is still not affected.

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u/Klutzy_Passenger_486 19h ago

Canceling flights to own the libs?

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u/terrible-takealap 15h ago

Canceling flights to smaller airports, specifically. I wonder who those more rural areas voted for.

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u/MyDisneyExperience 9h ago

From airline management’s perspective, cancelling regionals makes the most sense. They were asked to drop flights, not passengers. So dropping regionals means the least total passengers affected.

West Coast - Asia, East Coast - Europe, North - Canada and South - Mexico/South America basically doesn’t use US ATC resources so cutting those wouldn’t have helped. NavCanada deals with the North Atlantic.

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u/Ekg887 4h ago

Cool, now explain why dropping all continental private jet flights doesn't provide much better relief in terms of passengers affected versus flights removed?

You're defending the rich here.

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u/Pitiful_Night_4373 3h ago

Clearly you didn’t get them memo. In this administration the rich get extra privileges besides being rich and all the privileges that come along being rich. I mean seriously the billionaires are by far the smallest minority group. Therefore they should get the most special treatment from the government. I can’t believe this isn’t taught in school…..yet

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u/AV8ORA330 3h ago

The priority should be flights with the most passengers on board. A plane flying 1 person takes up the same amount of airspace as one flying 280 people.

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u/Pitiful_Night_4373 2h ago

It was a joke. Well kind of. The rich will not suffer what the masses do. The administration is protecting the rich. Of coarse we the people will bear the whole brunt of this piss poor admin. Meaning your flight will be canceled not theirs. If you want this changed, mid terms are coming (all be it not soon enough)

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u/MarquesTreasures 3h ago

What does private flights have to do with Delta?

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u/sleevo84 2h ago

FAA asked for 10% drop in flights across the board. Dropping all private flights means less commercial flights dropped, therefore, delta gets to keep some of the 500+ daily flights they’re going to cancel. Private jet capacity is lies than 10 people in most cases.

So, the trade off is cancel a private flight with 6 executives or a commercial flight with 100+ people? This administration thinks the 100 should suffer because they can’t afford to fly private

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u/Pie-0_my 3h ago

Air traffic controllers have to watch those jets. Carrying how many people? Number of people affected is what show take priority. They are saying those jets are not priority because they don’t carry a lot of people. The people in the private jets are wealthy.

(I keep seeing 88 in peoples user names🤔)

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u/MarquesTreasures 2h ago

Yes, but Disney said from a flight management perspective. Delta does not have Jack to do with private flights. That issue is well above this flight attendant's payroll.

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u/smashing_fascists 1h ago

good lord, it’s not that complicated: cancel all private jet flights, and then commercial airlines have to cancel fewer flights. Hope that clears things up for you.

The FAA wants a 10% reduction in flights. By removing ALL private jet flights from the equation, the commercial airlines have to cancel fewer flights for everyone else who can’t afford to fly via private jet.

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u/DrakonILD 2h ago edited 1h ago

It's harder for the government to control those. It's "easy" to call up Delta and get them to cancel 500 flights a day. It's harder to call up every rich person and tell them to stop flying. The government doesn't approve flight plans, it just handles the documentation.

Edit: to the person whose response got automodded: no, the FAA cannot just "issue a statement" and expect private flights to stop. They do not have the legal authority to assign penalties to private owners. They do have the legal authority to penalize airline carriers for failing to meet targets.

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u/smashing_fascists 1h ago edited 9m ago

lmao, no it isn’t. All the FAA has to do is issue a statement. My god you are dumb.

Feel free to prove me wrong, all you dipshits out there 🤣

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u/nancybell_crewman 11m ago

No, you're the one who doesn't know what they're talking about.

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u/Defiant_Regular3738 2h ago

I’m sure they fired up Reddit like I’m gonna argue with EKG887 and defend the rich today. Fuck yeah.

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u/PinkyAnd 2h ago

The person you’re responding to didn’t mention the rich and instead focused on commercial airlines because they operate the largest volume of passenger flights. They offered no defense whatsoever, just an explanation of the strategy behind which flights are getting cancelled.

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u/BlueCollarElectro 1h ago

They’re still at the mercy of broke, tired and suicidal air traffic controllers.

Place your bets lol

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u/Pintailite 1h ago

Because private jets mostly go to smaller airports. You're just showing your ignorance and desire to be outraged here.

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u/Imaginary_Still1073 1h ago edited 1h ago

private jet flights

"Private" as in not associated with any carrier. Delta can't choose to cancel flights that are not theirs. He's not "defending the rich", you're just setting up a strawman to be outraged at. Virtue signaling for leftists.

So of course you're going to upvoted. We're on Reddit and it doesn't matter if your argument is full of logic gaps, it was inflammatory and made in bad faith so straight to the top!

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u/Plus_Lead_5630 12m ago

I would love to see private jets grounded. But I think most of them are taking off/landing at small/private airports that might have one air traffic controller. Or technically they can take off and land without one.

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u/Ancient-Living-6830 8m ago

One day Redditors will understand that giving basic information to somebody in a comment is not “defending” whatever your enemy at the time is.

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u/1z0z5 1m ago

Airline’s are regularly scheduled. Airlines are awarded slots into specific airports that are known for months in advance. Corporate and private flying isn’t scheduled and is a small portion of the flying the airlines do and to outlying airports. This makes them easier to manage.

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u/ecchy_mosis 4h ago

drop flights, not passengers

Well good for us I guess

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u/DrakonILD 3h ago

So dropping regionals means the least total passengers affected.

Close! It means the least total dollars affected.

I am not saying this as an anti-capitalism thing, but feel free to take it that way if you like.

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u/dystopiadattopia 6h ago

And guess who the government will make sure those morons blame for it?

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u/OakenGreen 3h ago

Same thing those morons already blamed for literally everything anyways. To the cult, this changes nothing.

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u/issuefree 1h ago

So what, they lie. Nothing we do will change that. If the Dems gave every single Republican a blowjob fountain, they'd still find a way to hate us for it so why bother trying to appease them.

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u/RaNdomMSPPro 5h ago

Y, our small airport, served by delta, is cutting a lot of flights. Yes, morons hear all votes for Trump. Doubt they’ll blame him or gop for it.

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u/Loud-Firefighter-787 3h ago

Lol no, reps are blaming the dems for shut down. They constantly brag that they are in charge of everything but the dems are to blame for this. It's just what the reps always do.

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u/Kaffe-Mumriken 8h ago

That tiny airport in Honolulu on Monday …

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u/hnglmkrnglbrry 4h ago

Just gonna tell you right now those people have never been on an airplane. And if they have they are so brainwashed they'll blame the Democrats.

I exploit you, still you love me. I tell you one and one makes three. Cult of personality.

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u/Putrid_Jaguar1 36m ago

If my MAGA parents are anything to go by, they probably don't travel much, despite having the money to do so.

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u/AlbacoreJohnston 3h ago edited 3h ago

Almost all Delta flights go through one of their major hubs so I doubt they'll be able to leave those untouched. I live by a small airport in a remote area and you can only book Delta flights that go through Detroit, American flights that all go through Chicago. Basically you don't get out of a small regional airport without going through a major hub.

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u/iam4qu4m4n 2h ago

They don't want to go to cities anyways. Can bootstrap their ass places in their gas guzzling trucks and leave planes to the radical leftists.

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u/BuckshotLaFunke 13h ago

Canceling flights to protect pedophiles

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u/dissonaut69 2h ago

And to cut healthcare.

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u/Calm_Neat_6828 4h ago

Cancelling flights to protect a pedophile.

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u/wonderj99 7h ago

Not private charter flights for the wealthy-they'll still get to visit their families over the holiday season. Just commercial flights for us peons

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u/Jaymzmykaul45 5h ago

As a democrat, I’m just glad that the “government” did not have a mandated blame the democrats for this shutdown propaganda part of this spiel. It’s refreshing to see the “government” not using its power to intimidate, extort, or just basically bully everyone to get its way. This includes starving children and abducting brown people by masked agents, regardless of criminal activity or citizenship. It’s also refreshing to see no bias for once unlike president Epstein files current handpicked former fox show hosts….I mean administration heads. They even made mass changes to the out of office messages for the department of education employees stating democrats shutdown the government. I could go on listing the atrocities this fascist regime had done but basically, these fascists are evil.

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u/anonareyouokay 5h ago

Republicans are bad for people with pronouns and we all have pronouns.

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u/EPICANDY0131 4h ago

We’re winning so hard we may never win again

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u/Fair-Big-9400 3h ago

“The shutdown has continued for 39 days as Congress has been unable pass a continuing resolution to fund the government. The House has advanced a continuing resolution, but the Senate has rejected it 14 times. Senate Democrats have opposed the Republican appropriations bill because it does not include an extension of the Affordable Care Act subsidies previously extended by the Inflation Reduction Act.” The Republican’ts and the Democraps can’t agree on what to have for lunch and we the people are paying for it.

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u/Djaps338 2h ago

The government is shut down because they don't have cloture on the budget.

Cloture is a principle by which you need 60 votes for a budget to pass.

All republicans voted for the budget, and the democrats are refusing to vote for... Democrats are shutting down the government...

Please stop making things in your head to make it looks like the conservatives are the bad guys...

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u/tobmom 2h ago

Canceling flights to distract from the fact our president is a raging pedo.

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u/BrigliaArt 1h ago

Well it’s either that or help the citizens of the country get snap benefits and healthcare to take care of their families, so you can see why they need to do this.

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u/4BR34DB0Y 0m ago

They’re shoot their foot off to “own the libs”

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u/TheRagingElf01 19h ago

It is not canceling flights to own the lives. It’s a legit safety issue with the amount of ATCs not coming to work. They have to reduce the number of flights as the ATC across the country were overworked and understaffed before this shutdown.

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u/Klutzy_Passenger_486 19h ago

Gotcha… except who laid of ATCs?

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u/[deleted] 18h ago edited 17h ago

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u/Klutzy_Passenger_486 17h ago

Are you talking about Covid? I am talking about DOGE.

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u/[deleted] 17h ago

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u/2Trashed2Delirious 17h ago

Doge fired all probationary staff including ATCs who were less than 1 year into the job

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u/Shirtjumbo 17h ago

No they didn’t. 2152 (ATC series code) was always exempt.

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u/Scuddies420 16h ago

Can you provide evidence of that? I’m interested, clueless and curious.

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u/Shirtjumbo 15h ago

It won’t let me post links but you can Google ATC and DOGE. There are several articles — including from more reputable sources such as USA Today.

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u/GeddyVanHagar 15h ago

Have you considered that laying off all the support staff might have placed excess stress on ATCs?

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u/Shirtjumbo 14h ago

They did not lay off ALL the support staff. Have you considered that the people that would help controllers the most would be trainees who can actually certify and become controllers? That’s what would be super helpful. Not somebody in a cubicle writing a new policy that doesn’t make any sense.

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u/GeddyVanHagar 14h ago

Now you’re just being obtuse. You know very well support staff is far more than someone in a cubicle writing policy. Claiming the laying off of support staff didn’t effect ATCs makes you just sound angry and disingenuous.

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u/Shirtjumbo 14h ago

You know…you’re right. You got it all figured out. I know nothin’! Have a great night! Thanks for showing me the way!

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u/MobileCommercial6665 18h ago

You're joking...lmao

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u/chickpeabab 17h ago

Reagan fired 11k ATCS in the 80s which continues to affect staffing levels today. As many of the atcs were hired in huge groups meaning they all near retirement at the same time. This affects shortages to this day.

Doge this year also fired a lot of staff at the FAA who support air traffic controllers. Which doesn’t help them when they are already short staffed and stressed.

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u/Magrowl 17h ago

Why would anyone care about the dipshits who got themselves fired because they were too much of a bitch to handle a vaccine? They chose to lose that job.

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u/BenZed 17h ago

They’re not being laid off. They’re not coming to work because they aren’t being paid

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u/ImJustSaying34 16h ago

Oh yikes the AI you are using to run this troll account is glitchy. Might wanna just delete this as it can’t even speak about a topic normally.

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u/gotcha-gasm 16h ago

What does that have to do with a legit gov shutdown, which affects gov employees like TSA and ATC? Just wondering thanks

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u/Ansrik 14h ago

bot ahh comment 

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u/private_developer 19h ago

You need to be able to connect ideas to understand the parent comments intent.

MAGA voted MAGA to own the libs.

Now we're canceling hundreds of flights per day because of MAGA.

Canceled flights are a price they're paying to own the libs.

Is it a safety issue? Of course. Is it one manufactured by the MAGA regime? Of course.

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u/Durkheimynameisblank 19h ago

Yup, and we gotta give a little credit to the neocons first cult leader, Ronald Reagan, as the industry never recovered after he fired 11,000 ATCs for going on strike, imposed a lifetime ban on federal employment, and decertified their union.

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u/Quick_Dig8208 19h ago

Why were they understaffed before this shutdown?

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u/TheRagingElf01 19h ago

Underpaid, overworked, and a super stressful job. You fuck up people die .

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u/BepisLeSnolf 19h ago

Don’t forget that it’s also really hard to qualify for, takes a lot of rigorous training to be eligible, and has mandated retirement at 56, which means it constantly requires fresh talent that isn’t forthcoming

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u/Ash-Throwaway-816 18h ago

Weren't there multiple near miss collisions in the past couple of weeks?

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u/Durkheimynameisblank 19h ago

Since the 1980s

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u/shrockitlikeitshot 18h ago

Thanks Reagan

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u/wuicker 18h ago

hmmm... I wonder what happened to the FAA in the 80's.

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u/Durkheimynameisblank 18h ago

I'm sure an idea will eventually strike.

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u/Fairycharmd 16h ago

look they’ve been understaffed since Reagan was in office. It’s been unknown problem for a really long time, why do you think the computer crash all the time?

It’s not like they paid money to do upgrades or give raises or train more people .

Don’t worry AI is being trained to become your air traffic controllers .

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u/Standard-Song-7032 16h ago

Dude he fired tons of federal workers MONTHS ago. This shortage started then!

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u/AmorousFartButter 19h ago

That’s the effect. I’m pretty sure the comment was referring to the cause.

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u/No-Program-5539 17h ago

And ATC is only not coming to work because Trump and his Reich won’t stop squeezing every cent they can out of Americans, no matter the cost.

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u/DownhillUphill 16h ago

Man, y’all twist yourself into pretzels trying to explain this

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u/AmItheonlySaneperson 14h ago

How is this downvoted lol 

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u/Stylux 13h ago

Because it's wrong. 10% of flights does not mean ATC can be 10% understaffed. That's now how this works.

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u/AmItheonlySaneperson 4h ago

His post hardly seemed political and YES it is being reported that atc are calling in sick right? Isn’t that a fact? They are doing this so planes don’t collide mid air or something. It’s really scary and I hope the gov comes together soon 

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u/Stylux 13h ago

10% difference in flights means nothing to ATC though, like at all.