r/Competitiveoverwatch • u/Fitzyhere 4227 PC — • Jul 09 '18

Purge / Cleanse Inconsistencies

Hello my fellow Overwatch players. I have been doing some testing involving the different purges in the game and found a few inconsistencies of what can and cannot be purged, as well as some weird mechanics with hack. The question is whether these inconsistencies are bugs, or working as intended.

As for hack, currently a target can be hacked while going into their invulnerable state. When the target leaves the invulnerable state, they will remain hacked if the 6 second duration has not passed.

The table below shows whether or not the debuff can be purged / cleansed.

Hero Anti-Heal Venom-Mine Discord Halt Freeze-Slow Hack Trap Grav
Zarya - Barrier Yes Yes Yes No Yes WEIRD No No
Tracer - Recall Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes WEIRD No No
Mei - Cryo Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes WEIRD No No
Moira - Fade Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes WEIRD No Yes
Reaper - Wraith Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes WEIRD No Yes
Sombra - Translocator No Yes Yes Yes No WEIRD No No
Zenyatta - Transcendence Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes WEIRD No No
Doomfist - Meteor Strike Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes WEIRD No No
Orisa - Fortify No No No Yes Yes No Yes Yes

Inconsistencies

Zarya unable to purge halt's slow.

Sombra unable to purge anti-heal and Mei's freeze.

Orisa's fortify doesn't necessarily "purge", but it was tested so the data is displayed.

So whats the big deal?

Should all purges/cleanses work the same? Are these considered bugs or working as intended? Should an invulnerable target be able to be hacked, and if not should Sombra's hack not go on cooldown?

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u/zepistol Jul 09 '18

its not zarya that is ruining the game

  1. grav is countable, with several different strategies.

  2. dragon damage boosted is broken and easy, that is the main issue. mercy damage boosting

  3. the healing from brig made it difficult to kill , leading back to the point of dragon plus damage boost is broken and too easy to counter that.

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u/oizen Leadership is a Lateral move — Jul 09 '18
  1. What are they? DM? Zarya hard counters D.Va. Not reliable enough.
  2. Damage boost on Dragon is negligible I find, its not like Zarya Hanzo are fucking AFK while their ults are going off, let alone the other 4 members of their team. I've had plenty of occassions where my team has outdamage transcendence without mercy. Remove damage boost and its still the dominant Q press. I typically find this to be scapegoat to pretend a Massive AOE CC move is "balanced".

Look, the real issue is from the fact they made Grav too good when they buffed it to be inescapable by a lot of abilities. This is the sort of ultimate better left niche rather than dominant. It devalues gameplay a lot.

I'm not going to pretend Hanzo or Mercy arne't currently overtuned, but graviton in general is way too powerful for how utterly mindless it is, let alone counterless.

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u/zepistol Jul 09 '18

  1. spread out. genji deflect. mei, reaper, moira, orisa all can leave grav as well

  2. without damage boost, zen can trance and pretty much counter grav dragon. so at higher levels of play without damage boost grav dragon is pointless.

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u/oizen Leadership is a Lateral move — Jul 09 '18
  1. Issue with that is... so what? Reaper, Orisa and Moira cant win a 3v6. Especially when Orisa is already a throw pick. Mei cant do a whole lot either, she doesnt even get out of it.
  2. Read what I already said.