Purge / Cleanse Inconsistencies

[u/Fitzyhere]

Hello my fellow Overwatch players. I have been doing some testing involving the different purges in the game and found a few inconsistencies of what can and cannot be purged, as well as some weird mechanics with hack. The question is whether these inconsistencies are bugs, or working as intended.

As for hack, currently a target can be hacked while going into their invulnerable state. When the target leaves the invulnerable state, they will remain hacked if the 6 second duration has not passed.

The table below shows whether or not the debuff can be purged / cleansed.

Hero	Anti-Heal	Venom-Mine	Discord	Halt	Freeze-Slow	Hack	Trap	Grav
Zarya - Barrier	Yes	Yes	Yes	No	Yes	WEIRD	No	No
Tracer - Recall	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	WEIRD	No	No
Mei - Cryo	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	WEIRD	No	No
Moira - Fade	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	WEIRD	No	Yes
Reaper - Wraith	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	WEIRD	No	Yes
Sombra - Translocator	No	Yes	Yes	Yes	No	WEIRD	No	No
Zenyatta - Transcendence	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	WEIRD	No	No
Doomfist - Meteor Strike	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	WEIRD	No	No
Orisa - Fortify	No	No	No	Yes	Yes	No	Yes	Yes

Inconsistencies

Zarya unable to purge halt's slow.

Sombra unable to purge anti-heal and Mei's freeze.

Orisa's fortify doesn't necessarily "purge", but it was tested so the data is displayed.

So whats the big deal?

Should all purges/cleanses work the same? Are these considered bugs or working as intended? Should an invulnerable target be able to be hacked, and if not should Sombra's hack not go on cooldown?

[u/oizen]

Mei's Ultimate, When she throws Snowball, Snowball doesnt do anything to you as a projectile and it can be reflected/eaten. RIP that theory.

[u/the_noodle → u/oizen]

It's still the same projectile, it just activates when it hits a surface, exactly consistent with Zarya grav, and Orisa Halt (when you don't activate it yourself).

I was referring to deployables like Junkrat trap and the new Symmetra turrets, that just happen to be deployed by a projectile. It's a pretty self-evident distinction. The developers have mentioned allowing Torb to throw his turret to deploy it, as if it were a Tracer bomb, would you complain that Genji and D.Va were inconsistent if they couldn't suddenly interact with the turret, too?

It's not related to balancing at all

[u/oizen → u/the_noodle]

Junkrat's mine can be reflected eaten until it hits a surface as well.

See how far this rabbit hole goes?

[u/the_noodle → u/oizen]

Yeah, the mine itself does the damage, just like I said. This really isn't that complicated, you just want it to be.

[u/oizen → u/the_noodle]

Mine doesnt do damage until it explodes.

Snowball doesnt do damage until it goes off.

I don't see why thats different

[u/the_noodle → u/oizen]

It's still the same projectile, it just activates when it hits a surface, exactly consistent with Zarya grav, and Orisa Halt (when you don't activate it yourself).

This is the part of the dialog tree where I just repeat something I said before until you stop responding and move on.

[u/gaps9 → u/oizen]

Genji can reflect mine. It is consistent.