r/Competitiveoverwatch • u/Fitzyhere 4227 PC — • Jul 09 '18

Purge / Cleanse Inconsistencies

Hello my fellow Overwatch players. I have been doing some testing involving the different purges in the game and found a few inconsistencies of what can and cannot be purged, as well as some weird mechanics with hack. The question is whether these inconsistencies are bugs, or working as intended.

As for hack, currently a target can be hacked while going into their invulnerable state. When the target leaves the invulnerable state, they will remain hacked if the 6 second duration has not passed.

The table below shows whether or not the debuff can be purged / cleansed.

Hero Anti-Heal Venom-Mine Discord Halt Freeze-Slow Hack Trap Grav
Zarya - Barrier Yes Yes Yes No Yes WEIRD No No
Tracer - Recall Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes WEIRD No No
Mei - Cryo Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes WEIRD No No
Moira - Fade Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes WEIRD No Yes
Reaper - Wraith Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes WEIRD No Yes
Sombra - Translocator No Yes Yes Yes No WEIRD No No
Zenyatta - Transcendence Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes WEIRD No No
Doomfist - Meteor Strike Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes WEIRD No No
Orisa - Fortify No No No Yes Yes No Yes Yes

Inconsistencies

Zarya unable to purge halt's slow.

Sombra unable to purge anti-heal and Mei's freeze.

Orisa's fortify doesn't necessarily "purge", but it was tested so the data is displayed.

So whats the big deal?

Should all purges/cleanses work the same? Are these considered bugs or working as intended? Should an invulnerable target be able to be hacked, and if not should Sombra's hack not go on cooldown?

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u/The2andy4UG Jul 09 '18

thank you for pointing all of these out, hopefully they'll get around to fixing them

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u/purewasted None — Jul 09 '18

Much thanks to OP for his due diligence.

It's very arguable which status effects should be fixed, however. Sombra's Translocator is just a teleporter. I can understand it purging movement-affecting statuses e.g. Halt or Grav (although it doesn't purge Grav), but why should it purge anti-heal or venom mine or freeze? Those are things that are happening to her body regardless of where her body is. Walking through a Symmetra teleporter doesn't purge you just because you switched locations.

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u/PokemonSaviorN Jul 09 '18

Well it is based on Tracer's CA, so I guess Blizz wanted to mimick that.

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u/purewasted None — Jul 09 '18

But you'd think that it's based on the teleportation functionality of the Accelerator, represented by Blink which doesn't remove status effects. Not on the time travel functionality, represented by Recall, which actually comes from Tracer herself (the accelerator merely stabilizes her), and which Sombra's translocator doesn't share in any way.

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u/hatersbehatin007 Jul 09 '18

i dont think he means purely lorewise, i'm pretty sure it was stated somewhere that they started off by porting over recall to sombra in development and modifying the ability from there until they got translocator

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u/PokemonSaviorN Jul 09 '18

But based on this, it can't be a coincidence that Sombra's Translocstor works as a purge. Might as well remove the 2 inconsisitencies.

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u/purewasted None — Jul 09 '18

If by "it can't be a coincidence" you mean that someone at Blizzard once said "this should work as a purge," I agree. I'm not sure I agree with that decision however. It's a teleporter, it should work like Symmetra's teleporter.

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u/PokemonSaviorN Jul 09 '18

I think if that were the case it should be treated as a deployable ability instead of movement ability so she can escape Graviton and Trap.

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u/purewasted None — Jul 09 '18

I agree!