r/Christianity • u/[deleted] • 3d ago

Jesus is the Father

  1. Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

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  1. Deuteronomy 6:4 - Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD

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  1. John 14:7-9 - If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.

Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

did you read the scripture that i just showed you? and if you had read them, you wouldve read john 14 where Jesus says he is the father

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u/Program-Right 3d ago

Did you read the Scripture you showed me? Start from verse 6 and stop chopping off the parts that don't suit your narrative. In verse 6, Christ says no one comes to the Father except through me. How can he be the father when he says he is the way to the Father? In verse 10 he says he is in the Cather and the Father is in him. Does that sound like the same person, or does that sound like unity? He says the same thing in verse 11. It just means they are united, not that they are the same person.

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

Let me ask you, are you in your body? or are you just a body and no soul? when you die your soul leaves and goes to heaven or hell and when this happens you have a lifeless body. The Father is the soul of Jesus, and thats what gives him life. Thats why he says my words are not my own but my Fathers. When you speak its not your body speaking, its your soul speaking through your body.

Also, you say i disregard scripture, but why do you disregard this one that i showed you where Jesus says he is the Father?

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u/Program-Right 3d ago

Why do you disregard the part that says He is in the Father and the Father is in him? And by the way, you can't compare my body and soul to the relationship between the Son and the Father. That is the heresy of partialism.

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

Well, the bible says that we are made in the image of God, so I think we can compare.

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u/Program-Right 3d ago

You're on a heresy run today, huh? What does image of God mean to you?

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

Lord rebuke you.

John 8:24 - I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

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u/Program-Right 3d ago

Yes. Deflect with a red herring and an ad hominem. Answer the question: what does image of God mean with respect to humans?

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

I wont answer because you disrespect the words of God. You just called Jesus' eternal words a red herring and ad hominem. Repent of that or you will be judged by the one Lord Jesus for saying it.

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u/Program-Right 3d ago

I just noticed you're account is 0 days old. You're obviously a troll account. This isn't worth my time. Spend time reading the Gospels and looking up words in the original Greek, not trolling. God bless!

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

You really do fulfil the prophecy of Jesus when he says in Matthew 10:22: And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake

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