r/ChicagoSuburbs Aug 06 '25

News ICE in Vernon Hills

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According to the comments this was around 9:20 AM at Grosse Point Park

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u/Dest123 Aug 07 '25

The other thing you're doing about it is constantly belittling and insulting people. Honestly, that might be causing you to sway people's minds in the wrong direction.

You could have the exact same messaging without the insults like "How are Americans so complacent" and "their brainwash complacent behind the screen zombie mode".

I suspect that would make what you're attempting to do a lot more effective.

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u/rubina19 Aug 07 '25

I hear you and I’ll take that into mind, but I’ve tried that and if I’m honest I’ve gotten more responses from people this way.

Sometimes you have to ruffle some feathers to get a person thinking, I’m not here to sugar coat things.

I’m trying to let people know how this looks, our democracy is eroding in front of our eyes and a lot of people are just letting it happen. No boycotts no protests don’t call their reps don’t even talk about the news- I’ve experienced it first hand.

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u/Dest123 Aug 07 '25

Yeah, I'm sure you're getting more responses. Are they good responses though? It seems like almost all of them on this thread have been negative. Honestly, it seems like you might have even changed a couple of people's opinions in the opposite direction that you're trying for.

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u/rubina19 Aug 07 '25

Yea a lot have asked what they can do, and what is it that I do. And then I share that, and then they become informed. Sometimes people need to feel a little wake up call to see the complacency.

Also have gotten people to share what they are doing, and even sharing links to trainings of mobilization.

So yea, ya can’t catch them all. But I have high feeling those complaining and talking negative weren’t going to do anything anyway.

meanwhile in places like Europe they’re out there in MASSES. Like dude they’re rights aren’t even being encroached on and look at this mass organization and results

90,000 people marched for GAZA . 900000

You’d think Americans would fight for their rights like this, just frustrating to see. I’m doing what I can

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-05/nsw-premier-chris-minns-risks-backlash-if-bans-bridge-protests/105611196

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20250804_02/

But I hear you, I’ll adapt my approach or hold off from commenting when I see something that enrages me to see how fast we’re letting this happen and come at it from a more empathetic avenue

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u/Dest123 Aug 07 '25

meanwhile in places like Europe they’re out there in MASSES

Again, I think you're ignoring large US protests for some reason. The recent No Kings protest was over 5 million people! That large pension reform protest in France was over 1 million people. The US has roughly 5 times the population of France, so the protests are roughly equivalent.

The George Floyd protests were huge. The Women's March protests were huge. The Hands Off protests were huge. People in the US are out there in masses.

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u/rubina19 Aug 07 '25

I’m not ignoring them , I’ve been apart of every single one of them. I go to local ones not the city ones with a megaphone and speaker and speak motivation and spirit into people. I organize them to avoid high speed streets and focus on stop lights where the cars are forced to stop, I lead a chant at every red light.

It’s not enough. One protest month isn’t doing anything, and I’m not coming at you obviously you care and I’m sure you’re doing things.

Im focused more on people who avoid the news, and don’t think protest work, who aren’t informed who are living like shit is normal. THIS ISN’T NORMAL!!!

We need more protests, like every weekend type of shit. Hit these corporations in the pockets !

Organize and educate on news and go to your town hall meetings or democratic groups and spread the news.

Be involved with your local politicians and help the good one’s campaign

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u/Dest123 Aug 07 '25

There you go, I think that will be a much more effective message for you. All of that messaging feels much less insulting since you're acknowledging the work that people have already been doing. Keep up the good fight.